Paul01 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Prydzopolis said: Bye bye Dave. Find a new sport to wreck EmMac and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, Paul01 said: Bye bye Dave. Find a new sport to wreck Next stop, ARU. He should just retire and go sit on a board somewhere. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
matty Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 SCG trust Prydzopolis, EmMac, mack and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, matty said: SCG trust Hatamoto GunnerWanderer, EmMac and Prydzopolis 3 Link to comment
Erebus Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 WTF did they expect when SLowy says it has to be resolved in 3 days because he has to go on a business trip? Showing utter contempt for the sport. Prydzopolis, SBW, matty and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 45 minutes ago, Erebus said: WTF did they expect when SLowy says it has to be resolved in 3 days because he has to go on a business trip? Showing utter contempt for the sport. And for the other stakeholders! Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Erebus Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Quote FIFA a step closer to taking over FFA after meeting to resolve the voting structure finished in a scoreless drawDavid Davutovic, Herald SunSeptember 28, 2017 9:17pmFIFA intervention of Australian soccer is a step closer after a clutch meeting to resolve the voting structure finished in a scoreless draw.A seven-hour meeting in Melbourne failed to resolve the structure on Australian soccer’s Congress, as the clock ticks towards the November 30 deadline imposed on Football Federation Australia by world soccer’s governing body.FIFA would step in and permanently remove Steven Lowy and his board and install a new committee, known as a “normalisation committee” if consensus is not reached by then.FFA chairman Steven Lowy and his board will be removed by FIFA if agreement on a new voting structure is not reached by November 30. Lowy, who was not present at the meeting, had set a deadline of today (Friday) for the stakeholders to agree in a letter sent last Monday.It leaves a dark political cloud hanging over Australian soccer on the eve of the 2017-18 A-League season and the Socceroos’ World Cup playoffs.Two months after the powerbrokers reached consensus before the all-powerful state federations backflipped, the parties remain far apart.The state federations were represented by Mark O’Neill (ACT), Kimon Taliadoros (Victoria), Anter Isaac, Bill Walker (Northern NSW), while South Australia’s Sam Ciccarello joined via phone hook-up.Melbourne City vice chairman Simon Pearce and former Melbourne Victory chief executive Richard Wilson, who remains actively involved with the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association (APFCA), represented the A-League clubs while PFA chief executive John Didulica chaired the meeting.Professional Footballers Association CEO John Didulica (right) chaired the seven-hour meeting in Melbourne.Sources indicated that the parties respectful but did not come close to resolving the impasse.The main conjecture is over one vote, albeit a powerful one, with the state federations pushing for the current 9:1 structure to morph into 9:4:1:1 (state federations/A-League clubs/PFA/women’s soccer).The A-League clubs, the players’ union and at least one of the state federation chiefs are pushing for a 9:5:1:1 which was the structure agreed to in August before the states recanted.While the state federations would keep the balance of power, handing A-League clubs just four Congress votes enables the state bloc the power (60 per cent or a prescribed majority) to elect or remove directors under the FFA constitution.The breakdown of the women’s vote is the other sticking point, with the states pushing for greater control.FIFA Secretary General Fatma Samoura wrote to FFA last week (September 22) urging it to “focus on reaching agreement on a consensual new membership model in line with the parameters set out on July 4” when FIFA set the November 30 deadline or else a “normalisation committee” would be installed.The FFA Annual General Meeting is set down for November 15. fkc this guy off ffs. HAL clubs are probably stalling now just to see him gone. Prydzopolis, mack and Jukes75 3 Link to comment
matty Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 He wasn't even at the meeting, what an absolute joke Prydzopolis and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 He sent a letter! Hahahahaha Well at least they look like going out in the same manner they've run the show - showing no ability to interact with stakeholders whatsoever. I can't believe they wouldn't agree to 9:5:1:1. It's suicide. 9:5:1:1 doesn't give the A-League clubs the power, it just means that the states can't appoint everyone they want! So instead of a system whereby they have to work with and potentially convince one club to vote for their guys, they stand firm and will be removed. Craziness. DinoPresinger, EmMac, Edinburgh and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Wanderboy Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, btron3000 said: He sent a letter! Hahahahaha Well at least they look like going out in the same manner they've run the show - showing no ability to interact with stakeholders whatsoever. I can't believe they wouldn't agree to 9:5:1:1. It's suicide. 9:5:1:1 doesn't give the A-League clubs the power, it just means that the states can't appoint everyone they want! So instead of a system whereby they have to work with and potentially convince one club to vote for their guys, they stand firm and will be removed. Craziness. That is just but another example of our clueless they are. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The thing that I don't get about this "normalisation committee" though is do they control everything or just fix the governance? I'n sure they'll be focused on the governance but who's going to make Day-to-day decisions on the A-league etc? Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 And will they let us have flares? Lol DinoPresinger and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
Tranquilo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Lowy gotta go, to busy being co ceo of the Westfield corp plus being the Chairman of FFA. Need a chairman who can focus entirely on the FFA or leave someone in charge who is capable of running separately the a league and the FFA. Plus also being on the board of the Scentre Group (division of westfield in charge of running the business interests of Westfield in Aus and NZ). The guy is at multiple places at once and like his father, family business comes first always. WESTFIELD Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 To think that FIFA may have to come to football's rescue leaves me with mixed feelings. But considering the hostility that now seems to exist between clubs and FFA, not just at a professional but also at a personal level, something will have to give before it can get better. Apparently FIFA have been in contact with local candidate(s), making inquiries if there is a will to run the show on their behalf until a new board is appointed. What can possibly go wrong? Tranquilo, SomeGuy1977, Prydzopolis and 1 other 4 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 hours ago, FCB said: Apparently FIFA have been in contact with local candidate(s), making inquiries if there is a will to run the show on their behalf until a new board is appointed. Hmmm muy intrigante Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Flytox Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, btron3000 said: The thing that I don't get about this "normalisation committee" though is do they control everything or just fix the governance? I'n sure they'll be focused on the governance but who's going to make Day-to-day decisions on the A-league etc? The role of the NC is to take the place of the Board. They are responsible for the whole show. They will utilise the administration led by Gallop to do their bidding. FIFA normally want them in and out within 12 months. In that time they will have to negotiate the membership structure with all the stakeholders, get a new constitution written and approved, issue instructions to the State Federations if their constitutions have to be altered to comply with the new FFA constitution, arrange and hold elections for the new Board. They won't be doing a lot of the restructuring of football that some people want, that will in the main be left to the new Board. Their power to do their task will be limited by the current constitution and the Corporations Act. Edited September 29, 2017 by Flytox Prydzopolis and btron3000 2 Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 This is the forward thinking FFA at work. We understand that money is short, but the fact that clubs can only do this now? We want them to come up with new innovative strategies yet the basics seem to elude them. As Alan said, peak FFA. The mind boggles.... Link to comment
Davo Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Also is "more opportunities for partners to interact with fans" just execu-speak for more ads on the website? CaptainJess, matty, Prydzopolis and 1 other 4 Link to comment
pseudonym Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 yes Prydzopolis and mack 1 1 Link to comment
SBW Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 8 hours ago, Prydzopolis said: This is the forward thinking FFA at work. We understand that money is short, but the fact that clubs can only do this now? We want them to come up with new innovative strategies yet the basics seem to elude them. As Alan said, peak FFA. The mind boggles.... That's standard Gallop, he wants everything 'standardised', treats clubs as 'franchises' not a football club and they have to align with everything under the FFA umbrella. And clubs would have to pay royalty fees to FFA such as Memberships, licensing, marketing etc. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, SBW said: That's standard Gallop, he wants everything 'standardised', treats clubs as 'franchises' not a football club and they have to align with everything under the FFA umbrella. And clubs would have to pay royalty fees to FFA such as Memberships, licensing, marketing etc. Sounds like the Macquarie Bank model Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 hours ago, SBW said: That's standard Gallop, he wants everything 'standardised', treats clubs as 'franchises' not a football club and they have to align with everything under the FFA umbrella. And clubs would have to pay royalty fees to FFA such as Memberships, licensing, marketing etc. That approach precedes Gallop's tenure. Prydzopolis and matty 2 Link to comment
Hughesy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 They're taking the piss if they think this will happen http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/aleague-planning-for-crowd-growth-tv-ratings-boost-through-ten-deal-20171003-gythh7.html Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Love that “expansion will not happen until 19-20 at the earliest” Why don’t they just say never? MeurantsLane 1 Link to comment
MeurantsLane Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I love how the original list of FFA idiocy in the first post just keeps getting added on. Kudos. Prydzopolis and mack 1 1 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 And so it continues http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/10/05/league-clubs-legal-threat-has-lowy-limbo-fifa-takeover-looms Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, FCB said: And so it continues http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/10/05/league-clubs-legal-threat-has-lowy-limbo-fifa-takeover-looms Let me summarise it for you FIFA: Lowy, you must come to an agreement that ensures fair representation Lowy: Sorry FIFA, the AL clubs won't let me keep all the power, can you just sign off on it anyway FIFA: EmMac, DinoPresinger and SomeGuy1977 3 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 FL: Son, when FFA was looking for a new chairman, they did a world wide search (HAHAHA!), and then gave you the job. This was done so football can stay in the family. Do you understand? SL: Yes, daddy. FL: So let me check once more: what is your strategy in any dealings with FFA and the clubs going to be? SL: Torpedo every compromise that would take power away from us, uhm, I mean FFA. FL: At any cost? SL: At any cost! FL: And what could that look like? SL: I'll threaten, blackmail, argue, lie, call meetings behind closed doors, rant in public, destroy personal relationships for the sake of our bank account, uhm, I mean for the sake of the game. FL: Good boy. GunnerWanderer, CaptainJess, EmMac and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
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