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    It was a new year, but the same old result for the Western Sydney Wanderers, as they earned a 1-1 draw with Perth Glory at the Sydney Olympic Stadium tonight.

    The only major surprise in the home teams lineup was the absence through injury of fullback Scott Neville, and he was replaced by utility defender Brendan Hamill. The Wanderers had a good opening 10 minutes, with Dimas Delgado having a wide lash at goal after neat wing play from Nico Martinez. Perth however took the lead after 14 minutes. Josh Risdon, Andy Keogh & Chris Harold combined to send Adam Taggart through on goal. The assistant missed an obvious offside from meters away, but Taggart cared little as he strode in on goal, and took advantage of poor goalkeeping from Jerrad Tyson to beat the keeper at his near post.

    Tony Popovic had named a substitute bench including Kearyn Baccus & Jaushua Sotirio, and the pair combined to bring the home team back level in the 65th minute. Baccus picked up the ball near his own penalty area, continued toward halfway unchallenged, before lobbing the ball over a static Perth defence who had been caught square with Josh Risdon keeping Sotirio onside. The speedy winger had been deployed as a forward with the suspension of Brendan Santalab, and Sotirio took inspiration from the Wanderers leading scorer, as he slotted a neat finish past ex-Wanderer Liam Reddy.

    Neither side were able to score a goal to provide a precious win, with Western Sydney looking increasingly likely to find themselves breaking the record of 11 draws in an A-League season.

    Reports indicated that the Wanderers have Eli Babalj, the twice capped Australian international forward on trial from AZ Alkmaar of Holland and Tony Popovic may add him to a squad which is already set to include Terry Antonis & Vedran Janjetovic.

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    The capo at the Wellington TOD last season was not the same as the one who took charge during this game. The split down the middle reminded me of early Bay 56 when WDYSF had yet to make it to the stands. It's time we bring back Paranoia though. It would be intimidating.

    Bring it back for the Derby
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    I'm not sure that it's the manager that is deciding how the money is spent and how much there is on offer to spend Budgie.. I'm pretty sure it's not his money anyway.

    Anyhow........

    It has been said on numerous occasions in the past on Fox, from the club in media, print, tv and online... Popa has 100% control of the team including owner funded blank cheques.

     

    The measuring stick is your head needs to be smaller than Popa's. If it ain't, no contract for you or at best we'll low ball you.

     

    I think Budgie mentioned something about not coming back from a flight without the player... problem is Popa will fly business and the player economy, just like during ACL. Then the guy will either take it or be negative at training then Popa won't like his training efforts. Then he will train on his own until forced to leave. There is so much more to why certain players haven't worked at the club that just what is seen on the pitch on the weekend.

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    When the RBB splits it always ramps up the noise. I think the splitting hit its peak when a WST member was RBB capo? It hasn't been as prominent since.

     

    Definitely gotta do Paranoia more.

     

    Sound got to a level during Lives We Give that I thought the sides might get into it, even with all the empty seats. Do that during the derby and it will get loud. 

     

    Another observation about the crowd - at 1-1 every time we attacked the noise level went up and I thought it was a very anxious sound. It's like the whole crowd is super-anxious for the finishing to improve and it comes across at the ground. That can't help the players. It was like a mini version of the high-pitched noise that happens when some Asian teams get into the final third.

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    I'm not sure that it's the manager that is deciding how the money is spent and how much there is on offer to spend Budgie.. I'm pretty sure it's not his money anyway.

    Anyhow........

    well my apology to the manager and ill change my reference to the owners .

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    [quote name="bombagol" post="591836" timestamp="1483341468"though it was a frustrating draw again, there have been some positives:

    * The substitutions worked as they combined to score the equaliser.

    * Sotirio finally put one away.

    * Good debut for young Baccus.

    * RBB sounded fantastic under the roof.

    * Didn't hear WST.

    * Nico. Can we clone him - need about two more of him.

    * Didn't lose 3 or 4 zip at ANZ.

    have to add

    *Sotirio scored the winner against the jets in last seasons away game against Birighitti 😮

    *Baccus Snr gave the assist as well.

    *Tyson did pull off a great save in the second half

    *Castro kept scoreless despite being fully fit

    *Jumpei put in as striker after Scott replacement which is definitely not his position

    *Hamill not making a defensive blunder at RB was a positive

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    #OneFootJumpei

     

    How a professional player can't use their other foot is beyond comprehension for me. When you're 2 metres away from goal you just swing and put your foot through it. Every defender in the league knows Jumpei can only use his right so he is really easy to close down because he always has to switch to this right foot. That is absolutely unacceptable.

    2 metres from goal and even I would have just swung and used my off foot. I've done it in the past.

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    I thought Hamill did well, maybe my expectations are lower than the other bagging him on here. Would I start him ahead of Neville? No, not unless there was a very good reason, ie fatigue during ACL travel. (hint hint, get used to him starting a few more games soon). But he was certainly not bad in this game. Even gave Castro a dose of his own medicine a few times with some turns and tricks. 

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    Same thing with the Dimas goal against Theo. Theo setup his wall, but didn't trust it. He moved to predict a shot against what you are trained as a goalkeeper to do (if it goes over wall then tough luck, blame the defence for giving away the foul in the first place), and then Dimas put the ball where he wasn't anymore.

    I have to disagree with you for the Theo goal. Technical you are correct that he didn't trust his wall but with the free kick right on the edge of the box & the wall just outside the 6 yard box it means that he only sees the ball late & doesn't have much time to react.

     

    In the end, a goal keeper covers one side, gets the wall to cover the other side. He then challenges the free kick taker to get it over the wall & beat the sprawling keeper to cover the open goal. The further the distance out, the easier it is for the keeper & harder for the taker. For the Theo goal, the distance is so close & he sees the ball so late, once the ball gets over the wall that unless the ball is hit right near him then he has little chance. Did he predict because he didn't trust the wall or was it that he played the percentages & went the way he thought the taker would go? Had he stood still I doubt that he would have had much chance anyway.

    The capo at the Wellington TOD last season was not the same as the one who took charge during this game. The split down the middle reminded me of early Bay 56 when WDYSF had yet to make it to the stands. It's time we bring back Paranoia though. It would be intimidating.

    I think to put it all on the roof is a disservice to all those that were in the RBB that night.

     

    The numbers were fewer than there have been at the Bloc all season but it harks back to the days where there is less of the passengers & everyone there was active. There were a few moments especially after we had gone down till before we scored & things were looking bleak, where it sounded better than it had even at the derby when numbers were almost 4-6x more in there.

     

    Well done to all involved

    :golecapproves:

    Sh't wasnt aware ppl wanted paranoia so bad lol

    Bannana's back :shok:

    I thought Hamill did well, maybe my expectations are lower than the other bagging him on here. Would I start him ahead of Neville? No, not unless there was a very good reason, ie fatigue during ACL travel. (hint hint, get used to him starting a few more games soon). But he was certainly not bad in this game. Even gave Castro a dose of his own medicine a few times with some turns and tricks.

    I think the biggest issue was that defensively he was sound but going forward he was wanting in so many aspects. The reason? He is a CB not a RB or a RWB so why is anyone surprised?

     

    I want to know why someone like Shannon Cole was not given a go? With our 3 behind the striker coming central at every opportunity it puts so much pressure on our LB & RB to get forward to provide the width, especially when Perth were happy to sit behind the ball. I also think those 3 also make it very difficult for someone like Scott who is still trying to find his feet in the A-League very difficult.

     

    Thought young Baccus looked really good, don't think he is ready to start but was great in his first appearance.

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    What I took away from the match (which I watched again on on demand):

     

    RBB was magnificent Though my fav chant, A call to arms, wasn't sung?

    Agree with Prydz on Hamill, he doesn't know what to do moving forward.

    There were a few moments where our players stood with the ball at their feet, either not having any options for passing, OR, not having a clue where to pass it. Both those scenarios indicate a lack of creativity re moving the ball into the net. I think this stuttering/inertia is probably the most disheartening aspect of our game

    Nico is absolutely top shelf

    I feel for Mitch, you can see the hunger in him to score.

    Jumpei gave the damn ball away so many times - I honestly don't know what is going on with him. One minute he's doing fancy stepovers, the next he just carelessly kicks it into the path of our opponents. 

    We missed Scotty Neville

    Borda seems to be improving. 

    A few times I saw Butters and Nico both shaking their collective heads over choice of passing. One or the other is free, but there seems to be a lack of vision/no awareness of who the best option is. 

    Our ball skills are seriously lacking compared to some of the other teams in the ALeague. Just watch the confidence, not to mention the skill of Victory, ESFC, City, Roar receiving the ball, controlling the ball, the weight of their passes

    What is the point of high possession stats if we don't score/don't win? Its utter useless. I would rather we had the ball for 20% of the time, and scored as a result of that possession period. 

     

     

    I am hoping the changes coming in through January will trigger something in the lads, not the least because we are hoping to get an upgrade to our quality.
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    I really felt for Nico this game.

     

    Everytime he got the ball, he'd look up at 3 defenders and a pass to either Hamill, Jumpei, Scott, Bruno and Dimas. After passing to those numpties a few times he quickly learnt he have a better chance trying to beat 3.

     

    Nicholls and Nico both made poor decisions with the ball because they simply do not trust their teammates anymore. There is absolutely no movement in the final third. Main culprit being Jumpei in the last 20 mins or so. He would neither come to the ball or make runs in behind. 

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    I thought Hamill did well, maybe my expectations are lower than the other bagging him on here. Would I start him ahead of Neville? No, not unless there was a very good reason, ie fatigue during ACL travel. (hint hint, get used to him starting a few more games soon). But he was certainly not bad in this game. Even gave Castro a dose of his own medicine a few times with some turns and tricks. 

     

    The stats back you up. Hamill had 80% pass accuracy (3 listed as key passes), 75% tackle success (3 from 4 attempts) and successfully took on a player and beat them on two occasions (the two on Castro you mentioned).

     

    As a comparison Clisby had 75% pass accuracy (0 key passes), 29% tackle success (7 attempts, 2 successful, 2 unsuccessful and gave away 3 fouls) and took on a player once and beat them (Keogh). 

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    I thought Hamill did well, maybe my expectations are lower than the other bagging him on here. Would I start him ahead of Neville? No, not unless there was a very good reason, ie fatigue during ACL travel. (hint hint, get used to him starting a few more games soon). But he was certainly not bad in this game. Even gave Castro a dose of his own medicine a few times with some turns and tricks. 

     

    The stats back you up. Hamill had 80% pass accuracy (3 listed as key passes), 75% tackle success (3 from 4 attempts) and successfully took on a player and beat them on two occasions (the two on Castro you mentioned).

     

    As a comparison Clisby had 75% pass accuracy (0 key passes), 29% tackle success (7 attempts, 2 successful, 2 unsuccessful and gave away 3 fouls) and took on a player once and beat them (Keogh). 

     

     

     

    That Hamill turn ... Not once but twice.

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    The goal we conceded yes it was offside but it was one of the best moves of the game apart from that Perth didn't do anything and apart from our goal we really didn't do anything either. The fact that I'm not ramming home about Clisby tells you how little we used our width and how predictable our play was.

    Someone on this forum earlier said the Nichols and Martinez were scratching their heads half the time because of the options they had available... I would have to agree they both looking for someone to offload especially when they draw in 3 players in and how hesitant our back line and midfielders were passing the ball in attacking sense and then when you also put the fact that our chances were almost limited to shooting outside the box safe to say were not in winning form but definitely in drawing form.

     

    When we make the top 6 I would practice penalties cause we aren't winning or losing the game unless its Victory (I don't count the derby because form means Jack in that game)

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    Moving the Bloc up the back gave me one of the best views I've ever had at a WSW game haha

     

    It made it very evident that there was a complete lack of structure for most parts of the game. It was like watching kids swarm after a ball yet ironically, Perth had two players on the left wing completely free for the majority of the game. 

     

    Players were walking when we were in possession, jogging as we attacked up field and you could count on one hand the amount of times the fullbacks overlapped. 

     

    One positive was that we had players positioned on the edge of the box for scraps, although I think that was simply because no one was hitting the penalty spot. 

     

    I'd love to know which players actually went to bed before the midnight fireworks because that was a tired and lazy performance. 

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