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The club will put a great team on the park next year , I have no doubt this will happen , the core is still there

Janjetovic

Nichols will be much improved if we could jag a good centre forward

Baccus

Risdon

Nico if we can hold onto him

Clisby

Scott for the future

Santalab 60 minute player

Cornthwaite will be better next year

Aspro will be even better next year

Antonis if we can hold on to him

Sotirio maybe

Dimas I am still not sure about , I don't think he has had a bad year , he has had some average games , stop him talking free kicks and corners but as defending midfielder I think he is ok for another year.

Get rid of:

Tyson not sure

Jumpie

Borda

Pinitares

Neville will go to Perth

Hamill

Griffith

Lustica

Zinni

In from the club

Junior Baccus

Majoc

Suman

We will need 6 players to top that up

back up defender

Good Centre forward

good midfielder

good defending midfielder

good number 10

Run on team for next Year

Vedran

risdon Aspro/Cornthwaite Clisby

Dimas ? Baccus

Antonis Nico Nichols

New Centre forward

Reserves

Suman

Santalab/scott/majoc

New defender

New midfielder/Sotorio

New defensive midfielder

Tony Popovic as Coach

I would be Happy for stability with strengthening but I think the core is ok

I am Happy

 

We have constantly been told that Popa has the last say on all recruitment. If this is the case, its his fault.

Popa himself said he has say on football matters and he needs to talk to the board about finances. So marquees are not solely up to him.

 

So we can blame him for the quality of the salary cap players, two of whom moved right before the season started.

 

And it still doesn't answer my second question, which is how do we know it won't be rectified? 

 

I'm not bashing Popa here but to answer your question..He failed to rectify the recruiting in the January transfer window so we know this season has not been rectified and is on Popa himself.

However I would expect a big clean out again at the end of the season and I have faith he can rectify things for next season.

The problem with the salary cap and A-League squad sizes is that if you get your recruiting wrong at the start of the season you're basically stuffed for the whole season. The only way to turn things around is to get players to agree to leave part way through the season, sign players who are available in the January window and squeeze what you can under the remaining cap space (if there is any). If players decide they don't want to leave mid season and potentially spend six months looking for a new job you're stuck with them and the cap space they take up.

The manager and the owners have to take responsibility for the original mistake but there's not heaps they can do to fix it.

 

 

We have constantly been told that Popa has the last say on all recruitment. If this is the case, its his fault.

Popa himself said he has say on football matters and he needs to talk to the board about finances. So marquees are not solely up to him.

 

So we can blame him for the quality of the salary cap players, two of whom moved right before the season started.

 

And it still doesn't answer my second question, which is how do we know it won't be rectified? If coaching was the problem, then he should definitely go, but if its recruitment, you don't think that he deserves an opportunity to fix it? That's where the ACL and 3 Grand Finals comes in. If it was Walmsley who needed a chance to fix a mistake, you'd laugh. But someone with runs on the board is a different story.

 

This club, despite its success, is very young. Mistakes will be made in a difficult environment for recruitment. Learning from it is key.

Well said

The whole Popa in Popa our out debate is irrelevant if the owners are happy to run a sustainable club with grooming youngsters which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It's just you're not going to compete like that for trophies each and every season. This year our owners/board (it appears) were happy to go with someone like Bulut and Scott instead of splash the cash on Pio ver2

You can say we wanted eduarado but that wasn't after they realised how **** we were.

I'd say that no other coach in the league could do that much better with this crop - so sacking Popa achieves little

Outside of Dimas I don't buy into this they don't give a **** thing... it's an easy cop out to say they don't have passion if you break them down I challenge anyone to see Nichols, Clisby, Aspro, Cornrhwaite, baccus, santa, Scott etc don't bust their gut.

Maybe jumpei and Pinatres but let's be honest popa has benched them more than enough and we are using our squadies in place .

Yes popa and his tactics are sometimes stale but tell me a coach who isn't persistent on their style you can also argue when he beat the invincibles he went away from their possession dominate style so in essence out thought Arnie and got result

In the time we have been around the Jets haven't made the finals once - let that sink in... it can be a whole lot worse!

 

 

We have constantly been told that Popa has the last say on all recruitment. If this is the case, its his fault.

Popa himself said he has say on football matters and he needs to talk to the board about finances. So marquees are not solely up to him.

 

So we can blame him for the quality of the salary cap players, two of whom moved right before the season started.

 

And it still doesn't answer my second question, which is how do we know it won't be rectified? If coaching was the problem, then he should definitely go, but if its recruitment, you don't think that he deserves an opportunity to fix it? That's where the ACL and 3 Grand Finals comes in. If it was Walmsley who needed a chance to fix a mistake, you'd laugh. But someone with runs on the board is a different story.

 

This club, despite its success, is very young. Mistakes will be made in a difficult environment for recruitment. Learning from it is key.

Well said

The whole Popa in Popa our out debate is irrelevant if the owners are happy to run a sustainable club with grooming youngsters which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It's just you're not going to compete like that for trophies each and every season. This year our owners/board (it appears) were happy to go with someone like Bulut and Scott instead of splash the cash on Pio ver2

You can say we wanted eduarado but that wasn't after they realised how **** we were.

I'd say that no other coach in the league could do that much better with this crop - so sacking Popa achieves little

Outside of Dimas I don't buy into this they don't give a **** thing... it's an easy cop out to say they don't have passion if you break them down I challenge anyone to see Nichols, Clisby, Aspro, Cornrhwaite, baccus, santa, Scott etc don't bust their gut.

Maybe jumpei and Pinatres but let's be honest popa has benched them more than enough and we are using our squadies in place .

Yes popa and his tactics are sometimes stale but tell me a coach who isn't persistent on their style you can also argue when he beat the invincibles he went away from their possession dominate style so in essence out thought Arnie and got result

In the time we have been around the Jets haven't made the finals once - let that sink in... it can be a whole lot worse!

 

 

We have constantly been told that Popa has the last say on all recruitment. If this is the case, its his fault.

Popa himself said he has say on football matters and he needs to talk to the board about finances. So marquees are not solely up to him.

 

So we can blame him for the quality of the salary cap players, two of whom moved right before the season started.

 

And it still doesn't answer my second question, which is how do we know it won't be rectified? If coaching was the problem, then he should definitely go, but if its recruitment, you don't think that he deserves an opportunity to fix it? That's where the ACL and 3 Grand Finals comes in. If it was Walmsley who needed a chance to fix a mistake, you'd laugh. But someone with runs on the board is a different story.

 

This club, despite its success, is very young. Mistakes will be made in a difficult environment for recruitment. Learning from it is key.

Well said

 

The whole Popa in Popa our out debate is irrelevant if the owners are happy to run a sustainable club with grooming youngsters which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

It's just you're not going to compete like that for trophies each and every season. This year our owners/board (it appears) were happy to go with someone like Bulut and Scott instead of splash the cash on Pio ver2

You can say we wanted eduarado but that wasn't after they realised how **** we were.

 

I'd say that no other coach in the league could do that much better with this crop - so sacking Popa achieves little

 

Outside of Dimas I don't buy into this they don't give a **** thing... it's an easy cop out to say they don't have passion if you break them down I challenge anyone to see Nichols, Clisby, Aspro, Cornrhwaite, baccus, santa, Scott etc don't bust their gut.

 

Maybe jumpei and Pinatres but let's be honest popa has benched them more than enough and we are using our squadies in place .

 

Yes popa and his tactics are sometimes stale but tell me a coach who isn't persistent on their style you can also argue when he beat the invincibles he went away from their possession dominate style so in essence out thought Arnie and got result

 

In the time we have been around the Jets haven't made the finals once - let that sink in... it can be a whole lot worse!

 

popa's insinuated that money was a lot to do with recruitment...the club is a business etc - so we can say with some certainty that popa has to work within a budget outside that of the cap, so there could be a couple of arguments:

Is it that the owners wont splash the cash on players popa wants post the Pio debacle so he is hamstrung?

Is there not enough quality in the pool of players he's allowed to shop in or simply does popa pick poorly with the players he can afford to bring in?

So imho laying the whole blame at his feet is unfair, but how much of this schmozzle can we attribute to him?

BTW, anybody know what that 'music' was on at the southern end? Sounded more like the 'brown note' than anything...

BTW, anybody know what that 'music' was on at the southern end? Sounded more like the 'brown note' than anything...

Should we finish 6th do we know what date the elimination final will be yet ? I guess they wait to see what the games will be? Only one I wouldn't be going away to is Perth, but will go to Melbourne or Brissy, and back again for wherever the final would be by some miracle we made it that far....

Will be treating the elimination final as the GF type trip in the expectation we won't go any further lol

A lot of players have fallen below expectations most of the foreigners apart from Nico have been below par. Others have more than pulled their weight (Clisby, Sotirio, Aspro, Santa, Baccus). Were missing just a little bit of quality that the your Jumpeis and Pintares are lacking

@ Boro

I imagine the FFA won't settle on dates until the book the stadium.

Ideally the FFA like to schedule finals as:

Week 1

3 vs 6 Friday

4 vs 5 Sunday

Week 2

1 vs (lowest winner) Friday

2 vs (highest winner) Sunday

Looking at the weekend of Friday 21 April to Sunday 23 April, the available stadiums are:

NIB stadium - only Friday and Sunday (Western Force rugby match on the Saturday)

Suncorp stadium - all three days available (Broncos have an away match)

AAMI park - all three days available (Storm play on the following Tuesday and Rebels have an away match)

Should we finish 6th do we know what date the elimination final will be yet ? I guess they wait to see what the games will be? Only one I wouldn't be going away to is Perth, but will go to Melbourne or Brissy, and back again for wherever the final would be by some miracle we made it that far....

 

Will be treating the elimination final as the GF type trip in the expectation we won't go any further lol

I'm hoping City away on the Saturday night. Should get a decent following

I will never forget what popa has done for our club but this is football and nobody in this beautiful game of ours is immune to change. A change is a must now with rumours surfacing of conflict between certain players in the dressing room. A fresh start is required, clean out the old and in with the new. We might even lose our Croatian backed club tag that popa has put upon the club with a change.

i totally forgot we were western sydney croatia lol.

i guess when we're winning there's more petty things to whinge about

A change is a must now with rumours surfacing of conflict between certain players in the dressing room.

Yeah let's select our coach based on rumours of dressing room conflict!

First - it's a rumour.

Second - I would hope that there is conflict given the season we have had. If they aren't fired up there is a problem.

I'm really impressed with Baccus. So confident on the ball.

Has awesome vision and 8 lungs.We need to lock him in contract wise.

I've said it before but he really reminds me of Vidal.

 

Here's a question for my fellow forumites.

 

If Popa leaves/gets sacked, realistically, who might replace him

Hey Toqui, not sure who could fill Popa's shoes, but as far as footers goes you win the prize for most philosophical with "We are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far." That's golden!

There were more of us watching the game at Wests Diggers in Nelson Bay than there were at the ground from what I could see on tv. First home game I've missed this season and it seemed to be so for a lot of others too...

The refereeing didn't influence the result, it was just average in general. Both sides had questionable calls against them, KGJ... what do you even say?...

If we had a proper striker we would've put a cricket score on them. Adelaide were abysmal, Elrich and Regan were the only ones doing anything, their midfield didn't come out for the second half. You could've landed a plane in the middle of the field, I thought they were disgraceful.

That was just a dire, dire game to watch hahaha