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  • Gombau Picks Up First Wanderers Win


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    The Gombau Era has kicked off in earnest with the Wanderers taking all 3 points against an ill-disciplined Central Coast Mariners outfit tonight in Gosford.

    While the VAR will dominate the headlines after the Mariners finished the game with 9 men, the home side let themselves slip defensively before the referee was involved in the game and the Wanderers took advantage with two good goals. Josep Gombau elected to make 5 changes including bringing back talismanic striker Brendon Santalab, but his key decision was keeping young midfielder Keanu Baccus and he pulled the strings with a man of the match performance.

    Near on the half hour mark the Wanderers took the lead. From a Mariners corner, the Wanderers broke down the left with Mark Bridge, he cut back inside & looked for one of the two free Wanderers players. His pass picked out Santalab, with three touches to bring the ball down & head toward goal he unleashed a long strike at goal that curled past Ben Kennedy at the near post. It was a just reward for the Wanderers who looked far better than the Mariners, and were clearly determined to bring some respectability back to the side after their 5-0 derby hammering.

    The Mariners best chance of the half fell to Connor Pain who accidentally clipped a ball that nearly lobbed over Janjetovic only for the keeper to palm the ball away.

    The Wanderers kept up the pressure after returning from half-time and they doubled their lead in the 49th minute. Keanu Baccus danced merrily around a couple of Mariners defenders before finding Bridge, moved it on to Santalab, and with a cutback found Alvaro Cejudo absolutely free in the penalty area. The winger-come-midfielder took a easing touch onto his left then his shot gave Kennedy no chance at a save.

    While the Central Coast had the occasional foray into the Wanderers half their chances at getting a point from the match took a huge hit after a piece of defensive madness from Wout Brama. Having been kicking & shoving Roly Bonevacia all night, he tested the refrees patience one time too many with a studs up raking of the calf from behind. After initially giving the Mariner a yellow card, the VAR intervened to suggest that it could be worthy of a red card, and with the benefit of a pitchside replay, referee Alex King changed his mind & pulled out a straight red.

    The night went from bad to worse for the hosts in the 77th minute. Fullback Jake McGing was beaten for pace by substitute Kearyn Baccus and his awful lunging challenge caught the midfielder in the ankle. Once again the VAR was in play, and King reviewed the footage and went once again to the back pocket to send off McGing & put the Mariners down to 9 men.

    The Wanderers closed out the match comfortably, while some may have taken protest at their lack of initiative to seek a 3rd goal, after the start of the Gombau era the club simply needed little more than all three points and to get off the pitch without anyone else following McGing & Brama down the tunnel for an early shower.

    From the moment the VAR was introduced it's opponents have been belittled and called "conspiracy theorists" despite the clear bias the VAR has shown to the FFA's favoured clubs Melbourne City & Sydney FC. Suddenly tonight however, despite the earlier game having a much clearer failure of the VAR to fix an incorrect handball, only once the Wanderers were the beneficiary of the VAR has the media & other members of the A-League community turned against the VAR. Instead of Josep Gombau receiving praise for picking his first win, the attention will be on two VAR calls that were down to the simple fact that two Mariners players forgot how to tackle properly.

    In November when Cornthwaite was sent off for a clearly non-deliberate handball? We heard nothing. When Reira was pulled down in the box & VAR declined to award a penalty? Nothing. When Adelaide United scored with an offside player and VAR declined to overturn the goal? Nothing. When VAR missed Brosque handballing before awarding SFC a penalty? Nothing. When Milligan nearly broke Jumpei's leg and didn't receive so much as a yellow card that would have seen Melbourne Victory down to 9? Nothing.

    Nothing. Until tonight, the only major criticism of the VAR from media & those at a "high place" in football stemmed from the time taking to review things. But tonight it was different. Perhaps this will be a catalyst for the VAR to finally be removed, and hopefully with the end of the current FFA regieme at the hands of FIFA, a new set of referees & bosses at the FFA who can stamp out the horrendous bias they show in their decision making.

    The VAR is a blight on football and the trial should be immediately terminated.


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    3 hours ago, DamnedUnited said:

    The result upsets me in that it gives me Hope. I don't like Hope. Hope nearing Xmas is worser. Hope is that teasing flicker you know is gunner be extinguished. It's not fact it's Hope. Then it gets worser. In walks Destiny. I don't like Destiny either. Hope and Destiny should be characters in the Bold and Beautiful not part of our club. I don't like Santa. He gave us a goal a false xmas and in waltzed Hope and Destiny. 

    It's the hope that kills you.

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    2 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

    Aaahhhh..... Is it possible we can drop journos? We need to promote someone who can do a job, maybe from the youth team 

    What did   Gombau say about Catalonia ? 

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    6 hours ago, GrEmIoWaNdErEr said:

    Good win just imagine if we go on a winning run beat Newcastle and whoever we play the week after would rap off a good Christmas 

    The A-league team play the following in the next 7 rounds

    Jets away

    Heartless at ANZ

    Brisbane away

    Adelaide at ANZ on Wed 10th Jan

    Phoenix away

    Melb Vic at ANZ  (DH)

    Perth away

    Plus there is the small matter of the catchup game which can't e played at Spotless until BBL is over. 

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    It’s funny that the commentators who say the clear red card tackle wasn’t a send off because Roly didn’t do his namesake and roll around on the ground like he’d been stabbed, are usually the same ones who complain about diving and simulation.

    Well, unless it’s Carney. Then they say things like “he’s earned a penalty” or “he’s entitled to go down”.

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    10 hours ago, mack said:

    Bossi & Smithies definitely in the bottom two. If it was German style with playoffs Val would be playing.

    Add Montoverde for a four way playoff

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    I had no issue with the final 10 minutes slowdown, yes it was boring as buggery and i'd have liked to see them go all out, but in the context of the season, we needed that 3 points and if CCM had managed to jag 2 goals against us, we'd have been screaming.  Better to bank the points given where we are. That's the luxury a side like SFC have afforded themselves, when you are so far in front you can just go for it and to hell the consequences, we couldn't do that.

    Roly tackle, I cant believe the yardstick is the players response, haven't we been trying to get rid of the berisha style, roll down the field 7 times, over reaction? If its a clear red, then give it, regardless of the players response. 

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    There was absolutely nothing wrong with holding the ball and passing it around at the back in the last stages of the match. 

    Here's why:

    - Mariners were down to 9 men; 

    - We are 2-0 up;

    - Mariner's need to chase the game, not us; and

    - If they try to get the ball of us, they lose their limited shape. 

    The last point is the most important. The first 3 is the right mentality, the last point is the icing on the cake. Mariner's know that if they try to pressure from the front line with only 9 men, they expose themselves and could open up to more opportunities to concede. What the Mariner's were hoping WSW do is that we become complacent and misplace a pass in our own half for them to pounce on. 

    This game was the most evident of Gombau's style and for me, thoroughly enjoyable to watch. The following needs to improve:

    - 3v3 scenarios when we're going forward need to get a bit better;

    - Switching from left and right flanks across the back line need to be crisper and a lit bit quicker;

    - Cejudo, for me, needs to be on that left wing out wide. I think it makes more sense to have Bridge more centrally; and

    - Two CAM's need to come a bit more deeper and the two WB's need to be a little bit more deeper when in possession passing out from the back.

    I can't put in to words how enjoyable it was to watch this match and see these tactics unfold. Still a work in progress but I'm very excited. 

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    For me next week will tell us where we are at. I thought in the first half the mariners could have had more chances. I don't rate the Spanish guy up front, and Hoole can't cross. if that was most other teams we would be 2 down after 20 mins. How can Risdon be in the WC squad after being made look second rate by Hoole... I mean its Hoole FFS.

    The fact there were 5 changes for this game says to me that Gombau kinda was admitting he got it wrong last week to some degree. It will take more than a win against the mariners to make me forget what happened last week.

    The trip to Gosford is still a great day out I reckon, shame that there weren't that many of us and even more so the lack of CCM supporters.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/18/a-league-western-sydney-wandererss-revival-flatters-to-deceive

     

    "

    Despite one game fewer than the league’s current top four (Sydney, Newcastle, Melbourne City, Adelaide), Western Sydney are the only team to complete more than 4,000 passes this season (4,015) out of the five.

    The generation of mere goal-scoring opportunities has been an arduous task so far, though. They also hold the highest pass completion rate at 81.9%, but have the least shots on target at 34. The next lowest out of the five teams is Adelaide, with 41."

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    1 thing that I felt was quite impactful was how well we pressured from the front. I can only recall Kennedy passing out once. Cost the Mariner's possession in the middle of the park. Bridge won a few headers too. 

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    i am extremely disappointed in anyone who complained about the Slater's comments during the commentary - you should have been listening to the Spanish commentary. you did it to yourselves. 

     

    that being said, i didn't listen to the commentary because i was one of the 25 people who went up for the game. and it was fantastic. 

     

    how about that WDWSF with the team at the end lol. it's been so long since we've won we actually fu cked it up hahaha  

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    This is another reason why we shouldn’t get too excited about this result, I’d like to see these stats be more widely available in the A-League. I guess we have far more pressing issues than stats for fans :lol: 

    To be honest, I don’t know if he is even using the right method. Do I trust him? 

     

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    1 hour ago, Prydzopolis said:

    This is another reason why we shouldn’t get too excited about this result, I’d like to see these stats be more widely available in the A-League. I guess we have far more pressing issues than stats for fans :lol: 

    To be honest, I don’t know if he is even using the right method. Do I trust him? 

     

    That xG plot looks weird. I get that Santa's goal wouldn't have contributed much because shots from outside the box are usually fairly low percentage chances but Cejudo's goal was in the box, right in front of goal, off a ball played in to feet, yet it contributed less than 0.2, suggesting that it wasn't a big chance.

    Everyone has a slightly different method but that doesn't look right.

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    16 minutes ago, Davo said:

    Everyone has a slightly different method but that doesn't look right.

    I’d suggest that it would be almost a .7-.8 from the position.

    16 minutes ago, Davo said:

    That xG plot looks weird.

    Never seen anyone do xG like this before, as you say everyone has a different way of doing it.

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    He's gonna have to adjust his plot because Santa & Cejudo both scored and yet we only "expected" 0.2 or whatever of a goal.

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    6 minutes ago, mack said:

    He's gonna have to adjust his plot because Santa & Cejudo both scored and yet we only "expected" 0.2 or whatever of a goal.

    Plus the Mariners have an extra round so comparison is not truly possible.

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    4 hours ago, mack said:

    He's gonna have to adjust his plot because Santa & Cejudo both scored and yet we only "expected" 0.2 or whatever of a goal.

    Just because something is expected not to happen doesn't mean it can't happen

     

    See: Singles, Dating & Relationships Thread ;)

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    6 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

    This is another reason why we shouldn’t get too excited about this result, I’d like to see these stats be more widely available in the A-League. I guess we have far more pressing issues than stats for fans :lol: 

    To be honest, I don’t know if he is even using the right method. Do I trust him? 

     

    What the f*** is that I’m guessing that guy sees less bedroom action than unlimited 

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    8 hours ago, theguyyouwishyouwere said:

    i am extremely disappointed in anyone who complained about the Slater's comments during the commentary - you should have been listening to the Spanish commentary. you did it to yourselves. 

     

    that being said, i didn't listen to the commentary because i was one of the 25 people who went up for the game. and it was fantastic. 

     

    how about that WDWSF with the team at the end lol. it's been so long since we've won we actually fu cked it up hahaha  

    We can say we were there for the start of the Gombau wanderers 2.0

    What a great evening, I missed winning. 

    I love that stadium too

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    My thoughts, great 3 points, the last 10-15 not worried about, I'm kinda proud, I honestly believe that there was an unspoken decision not to pile pain onto a 9 man team (that the players didn't agree with only having 9 players)  there was nothing gained from scoring against them in that game.  Sure might change GD, etc but would rather them score 4 goals against a 11 man Wellington, than destroy the mariners with 9 men.  I thought it was football in an honest way.  My thoughts anyway.

    baby baccus was great, and Bridge has one of the best football brains in the A league, he doesn't have the skill of other players (if he did he wouldn't be here) but he has one of the best brains going around.  Some one said before that they would like to see him more centrally, my only concern is him and Rolly might get under each others feet, having him wider with Cejudo centrally I think works well, also him wide he gives a great outlet to Baccus (either/or) playing deep, so he can go widish from central defence or can go down the middle to rolly.

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    12 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

    My thoughts, great 3 points, the last 10-15 not worried about, I'm kinda proud, I honestly believe that there was an unspoken decision not to pile pain onto a 9 man team (that the players didn't agree with only having 9 players)  there was nothing gained from scoring against them in that game.  Sure might change GD, etc but would rather them score 4 goals against a 11 man Wellington, than destroy the mariners with 9 men.  I thought it was football in an honest way.  My thoughts anyway.

    baby baccus was great, and Bridge has one of the best football brains in the A league, he doesn't have the skill of other players (if he did he wouldn't be here) but he has one of the best brains going around.  Some one said before that they would like to see him more centrally, my only concern is him and Rolly might get under each others feet, having him wider with Cejudo centrally I think works well, also him wide he gives a great outlet to Baccus (either/or) playing deep, so he can go widish from central defence or can go down the middle to rolly.

    If we were in same situation against the smurfs i want the team to show no mercy.

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    1 hour ago, Posthoc said:

    My thoughts, great 3 points, the last 10-15 not worried about, I'm kinda proud, I honestly believe that there was an unspoken decision not to pile pain onto a 9 man team (that the players didn't agree with only having 9 players)  there was nothing gained from scoring against them in that game.  Sure might change GD, etc but would rather them score 4 goals against a 11 man Wellington, than destroy the mariners with 9 men.  I thought it was football in an honest way.  My thoughts anyway.

    baby baccus was great, and Bridge has one of the best football brains in the A league, he doesn't have the skill of other players (if he did he wouldn't be here) but he has one of the best brains going around.  Some one said before that they would like to see him more centrally, my only concern is him and Rolly might get under each others feet, having him wider with Cejudo centrally I think works well, also him wide he gives a great outlet to Baccus (either/or) playing deep, so he can go widish from central defence or can go down the middle to rolly.

    also, the way that game was going, i woudnt have been surprised to see a square-up red be issued to us. Better to soften it for the final few minutes and get through unscathed

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    15 minutes ago, Johnno said:

    also, the way that game was going, i woudnt have been surprised to see a square-up red be issued to us. Better to soften it for the final few minutes and get through unscathed

    If it was Kris Griffiths-Jones or Jared Gillett, Llorente would have sent off.

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