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    The Newcastle Jets have put on a clinic to demolish a demoralised Western Sydney Wanderers 4-0 in Newcastle tonight.

    Coming into the game having never lost in Newcastle, the Wanderers were behind the pace of the game from the opening kick off and were completely outplayed by the rampant Jets, with the visiting side having their internal issues exposed in a post-game interview with Mark Bridge.

    The Wanderers had their warning just 5 minutes into the game when Andrew Nabbout had what appeared to be the first goal. Petratos cut back onto his right to cross into the middle that found Nabbout between the Wanderers central defence, he finished well to the near post however the celebrations were cut short by a correct offside call. Not less than 5 minutes later the Jets broke the deadlock. With Mark Bridge not bothering to track his fullback, Koutroumbis took the ball to the edge of the Wanderers penalty area and fired past Vedran Janjetovic at the far post.

    Newcastle were unlucky not to have been even further in front before half-time but the break saw that luck end, as they turned int a second half that stunned the abject visitors. Jason Hoffman, having been pushed further up the field as a result of the Newcastle injury crisis picked up the second of the game after more inept Wanderers defence. Aspro lunged into a tackle on Joey Champness and failed to clear, the ball wrigged into the path of Hoffman who had the freedom of the pitch, Thwaite was nowhere to be seen and Keanu Baccus couldn't stop Hoffman placing the ball past Janjetovic into the side netting.

    Ben Kantarovski picked up the 3rd from a Jets corner kick. The ball was curled into the 6 yard box, Janjetovic, who had a complete nightmare of a game came & completely missed getting a touch, Kantarovski couldn't miss from point blank range

    The fourth was icing on the cake for Newcastle as they tore apart the weak defence once again. Petratos was out wide & heading out over the byline, his backheel found open space in the penalty box, Ugarkovic strode onto the ball, Jonathan Aspro resembled a traffic cone instead of a central defender and let Ugarkovic waltz through on goal to finish strongly with his right foot.

    Mark Bridge had a post-match interview that made it clear there are players at the club who don't want to follow our new coach and would rather do their own thing. It is time for the club & the coach to stomp out the rebellion and send the offenders packing. The PFA will have a cry but the time for forgiveness is over. I hope Gombau forces them to do sprints & laps of the Blacktown training facility tomorrow morning and afternoon, and every day until they show some pride in the shirt or they ask for a release.

    Oriol Riera came on and spent most of the half stamping around like a petulant child and looks like he'd rather leave in January than follow through on the two year contract Popovic gave him. Raul Llorente used his time mostly to bitch at the ref when not getting fouls go his way. Brendan Hamill isn't an NPL level defender let alone the A-League and the moment he is cut from the club our defensive stocks will rise even if we don't replace him. Mark Bridge stood around watching Keanu Baccus try to defend multiple players for the entire second half. Jumpei was the exact same useless waste of a foreign spot he's always been. Steven Lustica came on but you wouldn't have known it since he was invisible and neither touched the ball effectively or put in any crunching tackles.

    Janjetovic spilled the ball more than he caught it. Roly is getting hacked to bits every week and the rest of the team don't seem to be interested in putting in a few hard challenges of their own to protect him or warn the opposition to stop. Thwaite & Aspro were softer than a chocolate bar left out on the road in 40 degree heat, and they looked completely clueless on the ball. Cejudo isn't a winger and so far hasn't shown he's worth his foreign spot and finally, Keanu Baccus, a young player in his first real shot at pro football is being let down by much older, much more experienced players.

    This was a pathetic, heartless, inept display by a band of players many of whom look like they'd rather be sitting at home than getting paid to be professional footballers. Playing badly is one thing. Not making even a token effort is another. Those who don't want to put in that effort don't deserve to wear the shirt. Too often in modern football it's the coach who gets hung out to dry by the media, and we can already see many high profile journalists taking shots at Gombau and wondering "how long until Gombau is sacked".

    Gombau right now isn't the problem.


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    Just starting to paint my banner now 

    Gombau fuera! Sigue tu filosofía y procesa tu culo” 

    Hopefully google translate hasn’t got the message wrong 

    actually I just translated it back again it says 

    Gombau out! Follow your philosophy and processes your ass”

    he’ll the get the idea 

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    3 minutes ago, FCB said:

    Make that inexperienced at senior level. Merrick in Newcastle is currently  giving a demo how it's done. Gombau sure knows what he wants to do, but what was required when he took over was a pragmatic Plan B. He doesn't have one.

    Going by his press conference he doesn't want a Plan B. Instead, he chooses to go into pre season mode half way through the season. He thinks he is doing his job. His job is to win games. He is not winning. He is losing. Big time. Worse: if the club is facing a revolt of the squad under the manager's watch then Gombau is part of the problem. He has the potential to do major damage to the club.

    He is a "top six is good enough" manager. A nice guy, but not a winner. There is no promised land. He is a dud.

    GOMBAU OUT.

     

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    24 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    As for the sydney v wsw crowd debate. The thing that most annoys me is EVERYTHING! And it always has. 

    Sorry.

    Just saying.   :meep:

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    8 minutes ago, FCB said:

    Make that inexperienced at senior level. Merrick in Newcastle is currently  giving a demo how it's done. Gombau sure knows what he wants to do, but what was required when he took over was a pragmatic Plan B. He doesn't have one.

    Going by his press conference he doesn't want a Plan B. Instead, he chooses to go into pre season mode half way through the season. He thinks he is doing his job. His job is to win games. He is not winning. He is losing. Big time. Worse: if the club is facing a revolt of the squad under the manager's watch then Gombau is part of the problem. He has the potential to do major damage to the club.

    He is a "top six is good enough" manager. A nice guy, but not a winner. There is no promised land. He is a dud.

    GOMBAU OUT.

    :cry: Can't he have a bit more time - without anyone white-anting....if that's what Foxe has been doing.

    NYD with some serious support from the stands?

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    3 hours ago, pudispencer said:

    What, so I am wrong? SFC haven't had shyte years? I'm deluded?

    You are deluded if you think SFC supporters are type some of enlightened species who understand the virtues of losing with dignity and sticking with your team through tough times. Then to lecture WSW supporters on what suffering means and 'hanging in there', when quite clearly you club overreacts in the most hysterical way when you are slightly suffering.

    You have won 3 titles and missed out on the finals a few seasons. How is that suffering? 

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    Wendy, more time for what? There is no promised land. There are no winning titles celebrations to be had with Gombau. He's a dud.

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    2 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    I use this place as therapy kind of an anger management technique 

    Well I'll tell ya something - comparing WSW crowds and ESFC crowds for the time being is NOT going to lead you in any positive anger-management-therapy directions any time soon, my friend!  :lol:

    Just ask FCB, Manfred and Lloydy! 

     

    You're welcome! :hi:

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    9 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    Just starting to paint my banner now 

    Gombau fuera! Sigue tu filosofía y procesa tu culo” 

    Hopefully google translate hasn’t got the message wrong 

    actually I just translated it back again it says 

    Gombau out! Follow your philosophy and processes your ass”

    he’ll the get the idea 

    You can add this to the banner....."Si usas nuestra camiseta, juega con orgullo o vete a la mierda."

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    5 minutes ago, WestSyd said:

    You are deluded if you think SFC supporters are type some of enlightened species who understand the virtues of losing with dignity and sticking with your team through tough times. Then to lecture WSW supporters on what suffering means and 'hanging in there', when quite clearly you club overreacts in the most hysterical way when you are slightly suffering.

    But but but.........

    In fairness, It USED to be the other way round, in those early seasons.

    WE were the best fans on the planet, who would follow our team to the ends of the Universe - win or lose....and theirs were shyte.

     

    Now look at us. :(

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    Gombau should stop playing the system he wants to play and play with with what he has. Otherwise this season is write off and I wont accept that when it so early in the season and this was team is way better than what is out there. Key point when we were 2-0 down it was Foxe trying to G us up when the team's head were down not Gombau sitting down looking lost 

    Either Gombau gets his s*** together for this season im with #Gombauout 

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    If the players are trying to run the club then that is a problem. It doesn't matter who the coach is. You have to get rid of the players in the group who are leading this revolt, because in the future they will feel they can do the same thing.

    If Gombau is gone then so be it. But I am disappointed with quite a few of the players who are undisciplined and inconsistent. Needs a clean out, and the supporters deserve better. 

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    4 minutes ago, wendybr said:

    But but but.........

    In fairness, It USED to be the other way round, in those early seasons.

    WE were the best fans on the planet, who would follow our team to the ends of the Universe - win or lose....and theirs were shyte.

     

    Now look at us. :(

    Well time will tell on these things, but I think our supporters will stick with the club. I think the move to the new Western Sydney Stadium will also lift our crowds to another level. Especially if the wins start coming.

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    14 minutes ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

    Gombau should stop playing the system he wants to play and play with with what he has. Otherwise this season is write off and I wont accept that when it so early in the season and this was team is way better than what is out there. Key point when we were 2-0 down it was Foxe trying to G us up when the team's head were down not Gombau sitting down looking lost 

    Either Gombau gets his s*** together for this season im with #Gombauout 

    Yes- he has actually looked like a deer in the headlights, compared to when he was on his feet and always so animated with Adelaide.

    I think there has been something amiss from the start. 

    He hasn't looked like he's owned the job, somehow.

    Maybe that something was the awkwardness of having Foxe stay on.  That rarely works well... if the person staying on had wanted the job and was overlooked.

    Resentment is almost always inevitable from the one who stays on.

    And insecurity develops on the part of the one coming in. 

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    1 minute ago, WestSyd said:

    If the players are trying to run the club then that is a problem. It doesn't matter who the coach is. You have to get rid of the players in the group who are leading this revolt, because in the future they will feel they can do the same thing.

    If Gombau is gone then so be it. But I am disappointed with quite a few of the players who are undisciplined and inconsistent. Needs a clean out, and the supporters deserve better. 

    Gombau may not be the answer.  Having said that the players need a kick up the arse as well.............................si usas nuestra camisa, juega con orgullo o vete a la mierda.

    If a new coach is installed perhaps he may need to bring the pop up books with pictures to training just so professional footballers have an idea about how he wants them to play. Just for the likes of Jumpei, Sotrio, Hamill,Aspro.The same guys who were there and played crap last season. It may be the only way they will learn as it appears to be too hard for them at the moment.

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    4 minutes ago, WestSyd said:

    Well time will tell on these things, but I think our supporters will stick with the club. I think the move to the new Western Sydney Stadium will also lift our crowds to another level. Especially if the wins start coming.

    No doubt about the latter - and I hope and think you're right about the former.

    It's just what happens in between now and the new stadium that's harder to foresee.  :)

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    1 minute ago, WestSyd said:

    If the players are trying to run the club then that is a problem. It doesn't matter who the coach is. You have to get rid of the players in the group who are leading this revolt, because in the future they will feel they can do the same thing.

    Three months ago, at Bayern, the coach had managed to upset Boateng, Mueller, Ribery, Robben, Hummels, Coman. They didn't agree with his training, line ups, tactics, and the results were accordingly. Sound familiar?

    The chairman decided to pull the trigger, didn't move against his players, but sacked the coach. His explanation: "As coach, you can't have your most prominent players as enemies. In my life, I've learned a saying: the enemy in your own bed is the most dangerous. That's why we had to act."

     

     

     

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    1 minute ago, FCB said:

    Three months ago, at Bayern, the coach had managed to upset Boateng, Mueller, Ribery, Robben, Hummels, Coman. They didn't agree with his training, line ups, tactics, and the results were accordingly. Sound familiar?

    The chairman decided to pull the trigger, didn't move against his players, but sacked the coach. His explanation: "As coach, you can't have your most prominent players as enemies. In my life, I've learned a saying: the enemy in your own bed is the most dangerous. That's why we had to act."

     

     

     

    You're comparing Robben, Mueller and Ribery to Aspro, Cornthwaite, Hamill and Jumpei though. I can understand why the Bayern chairman did what he did..

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    8 minutes ago, FCB said:

    Three months ago, at Bayern, the coach had managed to upset Boateng, Mueller, Ribery, Robben, Hummels, Coman. They didn't agree with his training, line ups, tactics, and the results were accordingly. Sound familiar?

    The chairman decided to pull the trigger, didn't move against his players, but sacked the coach. His explanation: "As coach, you can't have your most prominent players as enemies. In my life, I've learned a saying: the enemy in your own bed is the most dangerous. That's why we had to act."

    Yeah...but there might be a bit of a difference in footballing expertise between the players you name there, and any who may be discontented with their new coach in our team. 

     

    EDIT- Yep -what WestSyd said! :D

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    Never been so depressed and frustrated going to Newy. Never seen less fans make the trip up to Newy as well. As others noted, Gombau has no plan B. I don't accept this philosophy if it means losing 5-0 and 4-0 every other week. I don't accept watching two centre backs pass it between themselves and the keeper and expect to score goals. He knew what he was getting himself into and I also don't know what's worse. Having utterly useless players like Jumpei, Sotirio, Bridge, and Hammil or having these players and thinking they are actually talented and make them key members of the starting line up (Gombau with sotirio and jumpei).

    Can someone explain why Baccus wasn't in the team? If there was an incident why was Bridge in the team? Was it only Baccus snr's fault? 

    I would be absolutely fuming if Baccus snr leaves us. He was a big part of saving our season last year and at the beginning of this year was easily our best player.

     

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    2 minutes ago, lurkersince2012 said:

     

    Can someone explain why Baccus wasn't in the team? If there was an incident why was Bridge in the team? Was it only Baccus snr's fault? 

     

     

    Apparent training field physical altercation with Mark Bridge. Not selected.

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    My concern on seeing Gombau’s presser is that he doesn’t seem to ‘get it’. He sees this as a job and he is doing his job if he imparts his training techniques, and tactics and formation. He said something about attitude but I didn’t really get the sense he knew how to address it. And I really don’t think he gets the culture of this club, the whole Western Sydney thing. 

    Maybe at least with Foxe, he got the culture of the club. He truly was a protege of Popa’s and was probably in hindsight, a better choice to play out the season considering the timing of Popa’s departure. 

     

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    The point that I was going to make: 

    Ancelotti manged to upset senior players, the guys who are running the show within the team. It looks like Gombau managed to do the same at WSW, in sharp contrast to his time at Adelaide.

    Without a major squad reshuffle next month Gombau won't survive.  Unless new players perform straight away we'll continue to tread water for some time.

    Bring in a coach who knows how get performance out of his players and we'll be on the mends quickly. Potentially anyway. 

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    Bring back Bulut as a coach, they gave him two bites of the cherry as a player and that worked out well didn't it. His sideline goal celebrations as a coach will be woth the entrance fee alone. Packed houses wherever we play.

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    1 hour ago, WestSyd said:

    You are deluded if you think SFC supporters are type some of enlightened species who understand the virtues of losing with dignity and sticking with your team through tough times. Then to lecture WSW supporters on what suffering means and 'hanging in there', when quite clearly you club overreacts in the most hysterical way when you are slightly suffering.

    You have won 3 titles and missed out on the finals a few seasons. How is that suffering? 

    Yeah, we all remember how philosophically East Sydney FC fans took their pissweak efforts with Cranky Frankie & the overpaid Italian

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    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc-board-feels-heat-of-dissent-as-fan-forum-fuels-the-revolution-20140219-330wq.html

     

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