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  1. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    I agree on all except for City offering greenfield pathways. My opinion is that having the right passport and the right agent is the recipe for the best pathways, but that’s from personal experience. I do agree that MC might use their parentage as a recruiting tool but I doubt you’ll see any youth players make the move through their channels. MC will try more Mooy/Brattan/Caceras purchases. Those will be the commercial payoffs for them
  2. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    I’m still not sure exactly what you’re trying to say. What’s MCFC is doing is literally no different to any other club. No player, youth or otherwise, looks to the parent club to make decisions about movements. Players at that age will go where they can see short term path ways to game time. Most clubs have a fairly dismal record of late giving park time to youth players. So if Najjarine has been give a pathway to success he’s going to take it. If the idea that Melbourne City could offer more European pathways was a reality, they would have attracted the best youth a few years ago. Im also lost on what your point is about Mooy. Are you saying he was a trophy development product they will hold up to attract kids or that he was an example of using MCFC as a launch pad?
  3. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    I mean everyone would love to churn out a new Socceroo. Everyone is trying to cultivate something but what MCFC wasn’t exactly low risk. They spent a fairly big slab of cash on a guy who was relatively and proven and not exactly young
  4. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    Yeah, I went looking for the Najjar article and found an old one and stupidly didn’t check the date
  5. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    Whilst I'm with you, though I'm out for a different reason. I want to see Llorente sign on for another 2 seasons. I couldn't therefor abide using another foreign spot in our back line. Gombauball requires more than what most Aussie have to offer. We will need to source 4 (3 if Riera stays) foreign players who can adapt fast to Gombau. Whilst Roly played admirably tonight, I believe Baby Baccus has just as much, if not more, to offer than Roly. However I did like watching Baby and Roly playing in tight spaces tonight for a few minutes, they looked the goods. My fear however is that the other 8 teams wont give them the time in the midfield.
  6. I agree. 3-1 but it will be ugly. If Ikon, Llorente and Celo all fire, Riera will have a field day. The rest just need to do their jobs
  7. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    According to some of the players Ikonomidis has turned up fat. Fantastic...
  8. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    Re FBT that just simply isn’t true. I arrange this for my staff that come on 457 every single month. Doesn’t basically matter how it’s paid, you’re paying FBT adjustment come tax time. I’m not sure which accountant has advised you that but get a new one. Regarding payments included, we’ve had these discussion before on this thread with other involved. It’s about the year in which a bonus is paid in. It isn’t simply excluded because a parent company pays it. This would be abused to no end if this were the case. The written salary cap rules disagree with your interpretation on this
  9. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    So I’ve heard people saying this before but I think you’re mixing up the Martinez thing where we paid 50% of his wage. It’s the reason why most loanees end up being marquees for accounting purposes when they come from countries with high wages Regarding sign on bonus, most certainly count under the cap. From the HAL site -“Unless specifically exempt, all payments and benefits (eg. cars, accommodation, etc) provided by a Club to a Player are included in the Club’s Salary Cap.” Really the only excludes expenses are relocation costs. Those get taxed by both Australia and the UK over a certain amount. So the player will lose almost everything over about 3000 pounds. Almost all relocation costs get hit under the Fringe benefits Tax Act. You can only avoid it if is a salary deduction. Rwgarding disclosure, the FFA loan form actually has a section for declared payments. If Melbourne don’t fill it in/lie and get caught, they’re season will be over
  10. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    It doesn't matter if Mancester say it's between them and the club, they are obliged to disclose the fee to the FA and as such the FFA. Also it doesn't matter if there is a loan fee or not, full parent club wages apply. Victory did it a few times before the FFA finally changed the loan rules. MCFC ****ed up what was basically the last loop hole. The loopholes that remain would cost the players enormous amounts of money in fringe benefits taxes in both the UK and Australia.
  11. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    All cash payments made by the parent club are considered in the cap value of a player. MCFC’s antics with Caceras made it harder for themselves
  12. Where is Cejudo

    Why would we go for a 4th CF? Riera is far from being our problem. Getting the ball to him is. We have one fit outright winger (Bridge), though even he is a convert.
  13. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    Why would being Melbourne born be a draw for him? He’s 26 and used to playing where ever the football is, it’s not like he’s looking into semi retirement close to home. I don’t know many players at all that give a crap about which city they play in, nor do coaches care which city Someone was born in. Fans might care, but players and coaches are worried about $, game time and outcomes. As far as Brox replacing Milligan in the middle, I’d be shocked if that was their solution for a whole season. They’re far more likely to head out to market to find someone capable of replacing Millsy. Most teams are going to be left with holes all over the park with a monstrous amount of players off contract.
  14. Squad Development 2017/18 Part 2

    Why can we only get him on loan? Cejudo is on a 1 year deal. Lass could come as his replacement if the club is willing to fork out the cash. I would suggest Lass is on significantly less at RV than Cejudo was at Betis and from a cap perspective, it doesn’t matter what we can physically afford. The cap allocation considers their fully salary from the parent club, not what we are paying them here.