Melbourne Heart vs Western Sydney Wanderers 8/11/2013 7:30PM

 

I thought ABC seemed genuine enough at the start. But I agree he seemed a bit narcissistic. Trying to tell us that our success is solely related to winning. A bit like saying Arsenal is only popular because they are winning. How logical.. Probably mostly due to the insecurity of the team he supports being so crap. But I thought he made some good points and seemed like an intelligent guy.

 

He took some unnecessary cheap shots at the end I thought. But all in all I find someone like SydFCParra far more irritating. His posts are just pure dribble.

 

We know that the Wanderers success is about much more than winning, but when times change, there will probably be some "supporters" whose interests wanes. However, I do think that he was also saying that that Heart's less than robust support base is due in part to their inconsistent performances and achievements.

 

If they could string a run of successes together , they would certainly have a better CHANCE of developing a stronger support base.  But it will be difficult for all the reasons discussed earlier in the thread.

 

Am I right in thinking that a lot of Hearts' losses have been close loses...and that luck has just not been with them in games when they've only narrowly lost...I guess I'm maybe remembering comments from Fox commentators from last season....I don't have the brain for retaining that sort of stuff.

 

I feel sorry for them...they face an uphill battle...I hope they have an OK season...

 

Funny thing about luck, you find that the harder you work the luckier you get.

Also to clarify, West Ham itself isn't a right wing club. See: The fact our chairman is jewish. There are some dickhead fans and a few EDL wankers... But I think for the most part its apolitical.

Strikes led to the rivalry with scab millwall

First black player in the top tier in the uk...

Protests against lee bowyer...

Billy Bragg is such a fascist, must be why he follows them.

Welcome to the dark side Wendy!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

I thought ABC seemed genuine enough at the start. But I agree he seemed a bit narcissistic. Trying to tell us that our success is solely related to winning. A bit like saying Arsenal is only popular because they are winning. How logical.. Probably mostly due to the insecurity of the team he supports being so crap. But I thought he made some good points and seemed like an intelligent guy.He took some unnecessary cheap shots at the end I thought. But all in all I find someone like SydFCParra far more irritating. His posts are just pure dribble.

 We know that the Wanderers success is about much more than winning, but when times change, there will probably be some "supporters" whose interests wanes. However, I do think that he was also saying that that Heart's less than robust support base is due in part to their inconsistent performances and achievements. If they could string a run of successes together , they would certainly have a better CHANCE of developing a stronger support base.  But it will be difficult for all the reasons discussed earlier in the thread. Am I right in thinking that a lot of Hearts' losses have been close loses...and that luck has just not been with them in games when they've only narrowly lost...I guess I'm maybe remembering comments from Fox commentators from last season....I don't have the brain for retaining that sort of stuff. Anyway, I feel sorry for them...they face an uphill battle...I hope they have an OK season...

Don't give a sucker an even break. I'll be happy for us to remain being good, and SFC and MH to remain being crap. I am sick of the 'wait till you start losing' lines we get from supporters from other teams who can't handle being at the bottom of the table. It is like they are looking for pity. That's why I want to keep being up the top so we can keep rubbing it in. We have the best club set up (along with CCM, BR and MV) and the best supporters regardless of where we are on the table.

I thought ABC seemed genuine enough at the start. But I agree he seemed a bit narcissistic. Trying to tell us that our success is solely related to winning. A bit like saying Arsenal is only popular because they are winning. How logical.. Probably mostly due to the insecurity of the team he supports being so crap. But I thought he made some good points and seemed like an intelligent guy.

 

He took some unnecessary cheap shots at the end I thought. But all in all I find someone like SydFCParra far more irritating. His posts are just pure dribble.

I agree with you but I only reckon he went the way he did at the end was because of the way he was treated.  It was just unnecessary and shows how truly unwelcoming some can people can be. Much of it just comes across as bravado and attention seeking in itself.  And I don't buy the reasoning for the bullying either.

In my opinion, he is entitled to think that Heart recruited very well, because they did.  If all their recruits were fit and available, then they would be even stronger than the early performance have shown that they are.  They have played CCM, Victory and Roar and for the most part done very well despite the results.

I welcome the differing opinions that come from people outside the WSW bubble.  Much better than reading about how wonderful we think we are.

 

 

I thought ABC seemed genuine enough at the start. But I agree he seemed a bit narcissistic. Trying to tell us that our success is solely related to winning. A bit like saying Arsenal is only popular because they are winning. How logical.. Probably mostly due to the insecurity of the team he supports being so crap. But I thought he made some good points and seemed like an intelligent guy.

 

He took some unnecessary cheap shots at the end I thought. But all in all I find someone like SydFCParra far more irritating. His posts are just pure dribble.

 

We know that the Wanderers success is about much more than winning, but when times change, there will probably be some "supporters" whose interests wanes. However, I do think that he was also saying that that Heart's less than robust support base is due in part to their inconsistent performances and achievements.

 

If they could string a run of successes together , they would certainly have a better CHANCE of developing a stronger support base.  But it will be difficult for all the reasons discussed earlier in the thread.

 

Am I right in thinking that a lot of Hearts' losses have been close loses...and that luck has just not been with them in games when they've only narrowly lost...I guess I'm maybe remembering comments from Fox commentators from last season....I don't have the brain for retaining that sort of stuff.

 

I feel sorry for them...they face an uphill battle...I hope they have an OK season...

 

Funny thing about luck, you find that the harder you work the luckier you get.

 

I meant to add that no one...in this case, no team can expect to get anywhere on luck...that goes without saying. And I do remember at the end of last season, some games when they had given up and did not play with the "heart" you would have absolutely expected.  But luck can sometimes come into play...And then of course lack of confidence takes a terrible toll. 

All I know is that I don't remember too many Heart games that I've watched being cringe-worthy. It's always felt that they were on the brink of being more successful....but it has never worked. 

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

 

I thought ABC seemed genuine enough at the start. But I agree he seemed a bit narcissistic. Trying to tell us that our success is solely related to winning. A bit like saying Arsenal is only popular because they are winning. How logical.. Probably mostly due to the insecurity of the team he supports being so crap. But I thought he made some good points and seemed like an intelligent guy.

 

He took some unnecessary cheap shots at the end I thought. But all in all I find someone like SydFCParra far more irritating. His posts are just pure dribble.

 

I agree with you but I only reckon he went the way he did at the end was because of the way he was treated.  It was just unnecessary and shows how truly unwelcoming some can people can be. Much of it just comes across as bravado and attention seeking in itself.  And I don't buy the reasoning for the bullying either.

 

In my opinion, he is entitled to think that Heart recruited very well, because they did.  If all their recruits were fit and available, then they would be even stronger than the early performance have shown that they are.  They have played CCM, Victory and Roar and for the most part done very well despite the results.

 

I welcome the differing opinions that come from people outside the WSW bubble.  Much better than reading about how wonderful we think we are.

 

 I agree here!!

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

 

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

Sorry Manfred...I've never seen the Heart play with the same level of consistent incompetence as SFC. They do have the same lack of identity issue though.

 

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

 

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

 

Sorry Manfred...I've never seen the Heart play with the same level of consistent incompetence as SFC.

 

Fair point...inconsistent incompetence is possibly more appropriate 

Before we get all 'Kumbayah' for our Melbourne Not-Victory interloper take a look at his very first post:

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

Having a dig at Malone on some bizarre xenophobic charge (Malone supports Arsenal FFS, not Olympiakos, Thessaloniki or bloody Panathanaikos), and then going off on some revisionist 'the A-League's whole purpose was to not have 'effnicks' in it, when it's whole purpose was to take over from the moribund, financially troubled NSL that had already gone through an 'ethnic cleansing' under David Hill, at a time that one of the architects of an ethnic club (i.e. Frank Lowy, Hakoah's patriarch) was convinced his money and guidance could finally give the local domestic game the prominence it deserved, well it smacks of someone who was trying to start something from the get-go. Imagine the uproar if an AFL fan came in and started using belittling terms like 'Greek boy' to one of our brethren?

Or what about this nugget of wisdom?

 

 

You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning.

According to the stats we had up to the 6-1 massacre of the Reds an average of over 10,100 per game at Wanderland last season...and our biggest crowd was for a game we lost (i.e. the first derby). So excuse me if I treat his so-called insight with a touch of scepticism.

If anyone else comes in here and offers an opinion from another club and can back it up with some real insight instead of anecdotal bigotry more power to them. We've seen some good stuff from Victory and Roar fans, and even our resident schizoid Monty has offered pearls of Central Coast Mariner wisdom. But taking that Melbourne Not-Victory fan serious?   

 

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

 

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

 

Sorry Manfred...I've never seen the Heart play with the same level of consistent incompetence as SFC. They do have the same lack of identity issue though.

 

and the same fitness team

 

 

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

 

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

 

Sorry Manfred...I've never seen the Heart play with the same level of consistent incompetence as SFC.

 

 

Fair point...inconsistent incompetence is possibly more appropriate 

 

Before we get all 'Kumbayah' for our Melbourne Not-Victory interloper take a look at his very first post:

 

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

 

Having a dig at Malone on some bizarre xenophobic charge (Malone supports Arsenal FFS, not Olympiakos, Thessaloniki or bloody Panathanaikos), and then going off on some revisionist 'the A-League's whole purpose was to not have 'effnicks' in it, when it's whole purpose was to take over from the moribund, financially troubled NSL that had already gone through an 'ethnic cleansing' under David Hill, at a time that one of the architects of an ethnic club (i.e. Frank Lowy, Hakoah's patriarch) was convinced his money and guidance could finally give the local domestic game the prominence it deserved, well it smacks of someone who was trying to start something from the get-go. Imagine the uproar if an AFL fan came in and started using belittling terms like 'Greek boy' to one of our brethren?

 

Or what about this nugget of wisdom?

 

 

 

You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning.

 

According to the stats we had up to the 6-1 massacre of the Reds an average of over 10,100 per game at Wanderland last season...and our biggest crowd was for a game we lost (i.e. the first derby). So excuse me if I treat his so-called insight with a touch of scepticism.

 

If anyone else comes in here and offers an opinion from another club and can back it up with some real insight instead of anecdotal bigotry more power to them. We've seen some good stuff from Victory and Roar fans, and even our resident schizoid Monty has offered pearls of Central Coast Mariner wisdom. But taking that Melbourne Not-Victory fan serious?   

 

OK, I'll bite but that will be it from me.  You can keep ranting on your own after this.

The Greek boy comment was hardly xenophobic.  Your description is just another over the top characterisation of a person responding to the suggestion that SMFC ( an ethnic Greek club) would be a better alternative to Heart.  The idea like your characterisation of ABC, is just bullshit.  It was a worst, a flippant comment.  Again, he was right.  Ethnic clubs have no place in the A League.

As to our crowds prior to Adelaide, take out the derby (like everyone does with the Heart), take off your rose coloured glasses and you would see that they were hardly spectacular.  As someone who has always had 2 spare seats to fill, let me assure you it wasn't an easy thing to do until we started winning.  

I have nothing against you Manfred and hope you don't take this to heart, but I wish you would tone down your anti- everythingnotWSW posting style.  

 

 

 

Let's get down to brass tacks folks...two clubs in the comp right now couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and who are they? ESFC and Melbourne Not-Victory. Why are they in dire straights on the pitch? Crap coach, crap players, injuries, lack of vision, bad luck, no long-term vision etc etc. What are their respective cultures? One doesn't want to be the Wanderers, the other doesn't want to be the Victory. When do their fans gets motivated...derbies. How in touch with a team ethos or understanding the coach's vision for their squads are their marquees? (contrasted with Shinji, or Broich at the Roar)? Neither Harry nor ADP would give you every confidence right now. However most important of all what do either club stand for, what is their raison d'etre, their modus vivendi? Who the **** knows, and even I or another Wanderers' fan knew and cared why should we tell them? 

 

All great sporting clubs and teams stand for something, represent a community, a class, a band of brothers and sisters. We all know who Man U, Chelsea, Bayern, Barca, the Maroons, the All Blacks, the Montreal Canadiennes, Boston Celtics, and of course our own beloved Wanderers stand for. ESFC and the Heart...the only people they stand for are those who are anti things, not pro anything.

 

Wanderers to win 3-0 with Tahj getting his first A-League goal and Shinji & Bridgey to finish the job.

 

Sorry Manfred...I've never seen the Heart play with the same level of consistent incompetence as SFC.

 

 

Fair point...inconsistent incompetence is possibly more appropriate 

 

Before we get all 'Kumbayah' for our Melbourne Not-Victory interloper take a look at his very first post:

 

 

So you would rather have South Melbourne in the A-league that attracts a crowd of 2,000 to play in the A-league? Sorry, Greek boy, but the whole purpose of the A-league was not to have ethnic teams in it. You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning. See what success does to a club? I'm glad WSW are in the A-league and the crowd and excitment they bring, but f* me, grow up and support the A-league regardless which teams are in there. MH and MV share the same stadium and same radius of the city so it does take time to build a club considering those factors. We don't have a "West" Melbourne like they do in Sydney.

 

And you might want to do some research before you comment on the incident when the two teams met last. The guy that threw the punch is a MV supporter.

 

May the best team win.

 

Having a dig at Malone on some bizarre xenophobic charge (Malone supports Arsenal FFS, not Olympiakos, Thessaloniki or bloody Panathanaikos), and then going off on some revisionist 'the A-League's whole purpose was to not have 'effnicks' in it, when it's whole purpose was to take over from the moribund, financially troubled NSL that had already gone through an 'ethnic cleansing' under David Hill, at a time that one of the architects of an ethnic club (i.e. Frank Lowy, Hakoah's patriarch) was convinced his money and guidance could finally give the local domestic game the prominence it deserved, well it smacks of someone who was trying to start something from the get-go. Imagine the uproar if an AFL fan came in and started using belittling terms like 'Greek boy' to one of our brethren?

 

Or what about this nugget of wisdom?

 

 

 

You guys were getting under 10k including one game that had 6k until you started winning.

 

According to the stats we had up to the 6-1 massacre of the Reds an average of over 10,100 per game at Wanderland last season...and our biggest crowd was for a game we lost (i.e. the first derby). So excuse me if I treat his so-called insight with a touch of scepticism.

 

If anyone else comes in here and offers an opinion from another club and can back it up with some real insight instead of anecdotal bigotry more power to them. We've seen some good stuff from Victory and Roar fans, and even our resident schizoid Monty has offered pearls of Central Coast Mariner wisdom. But taking that Melbourne Not-Victory fan serious?   

 

 

OK, I'll bite but that will be it from me.  You can keep ranting on your own after this.

 

The Greek boy comment was hardly xenophobic.  Your description is just another over the top characterisation of a person responding to the suggestion that SMFC ( an ethnic Greek club) would be a better alternative to Heart.  The idea like your characterisation of ABC, is just bullshit.  It was a worst, a flippant comment.  Again, he was right.  Ethnic clubs have no place in the A League.

 

As to our crowds prior to Adelaide, take out the derby (like everyone does with the Heart), take off your rose coloured glasses and you would see that they were hardly spectacular.  As someone who has always had 2 spare seats to fill, let me assure you it wasn't an easy thing to do until we started winning.  

 

I have nothing against you Manfred and hope you don't take this to heart, but I wish you would tone down your anti- everythingnotWSW posting style.  

 

I could definitely enjoy having a debate with you Boban over some of your points (for example, surely any club is welcome in the A-League if they can be financially viable, have a culture that connects with the community they represent and play by all the rules set in place by the FFA), but this is neither the time nor the place. If you see me at a home game come over...happy to yammer out a few points of agreement/disagreement.

Woah woah WOAH, what have I missed here tonight??!!!

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

I'll bring the brats, you bring the slivovitz...

Maybe it's just me....because even Megan was putting the boot in, and she and I are nearly always on the same page in terms of issues on the forums..

I'm half-Maltese (with the surname "Borg" - who would've thought?!) so yeah, I've been keeping an eye on Michael Mifsud this season. So when ABC got the simplest of things wrong, not knowing how many games he'd played - I was less than impressed!! So yeah, I got "a little bit" defensive about the Maltese Messi, the Mosquito, Mifsud!

Wendy, methinks you are the better angel of our consciences...but Megan, going feral too...wow!

Manfred observes.. "Megan, going feral too..!

 

I must admit, having taught Megan for a period of time not that long ago, ...I always though of her as a very sweet and gentle natured young woman.

 

Her posts here (at least on those threads I browse through) shows she is still of that same gentle nature..generally.

 

However, the aggression she displayed today towards ABC leads me to fear that she is in the process of being corrupted by her contacts with the hooligan elements rampant within the ranks of Wanderers supporters. I have grave fears for her .

Megan hasn’t stabbed me yet which is a plus in my books

 

Maybe it's just me....because even Megan was putting the boot in, and she and I are nearly always on the same page in terms of issues on the forums..

Ok, I'd like to defend myself & my "feral-ness" here!

 

I'm half-Maltese (with the surname "Borg" - who would've thought?!) so yeah, I've been keeping an eye on Michael Mifsud this season. So when ABC got the simplest of things wrong, not knowing how many games he'd played - I was less than impressed!! So yeah, I got "a little bit" defensive about the Maltese Messi, the Mosquito, Mifsud!

Wendy, methinks you are the better angel of our consciences...but Megan, going feral too...wow!

Manfred observes.. "Megan, going feral too..!

 

I must admit, having taught Megan for a period of time not that long ago, ...I always though of her as a very sweet and gentle natured young woman.

 

Her posts here (at least on those threads I browse through) shows she is still of that same gentle nature..generally.

 

However, the aggression she displayed today towards ABC leads me to fear that she is in the process of being corrupted by her contacts with the hooligan elements rampant within the ranks of Wanderers supporters. I have grave fears for her .

This post is SPECTACULAR, Hahahaha!!! :rofl:

 

Megan hasn’t stabbed me yet which is a plus in my books

LOL Goat!!! You're safe for the time-being....

 

oh i am watching my back

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

 

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

I'll bring the brats, you bring the slivovitz...

 

I know both of you softc*cks. Happy to point both of you out to each other :rofl:

 

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

 

 

 

One day Manfred, Ill take you up on that,

I'll bring the brats, you bring the slivovitz...

 

 

 

I know both of you softc*cks. Happy to point both of you out to each other :rofl:

 

I reject the diminutive phrase 'softc*ck' Jukes, and prefer the far classier 'non-turgid genitive organ'

A club should be judged on merits not whether it is or was an ethnic club.

SMFC have survived the volatile world of Australian football for decades. I would like to think we have moved past the old school mentality of the old NSL.

Hell many WSW fans dont even remember the old NSL.

Alot of people making the "no ethnic teams in the A-league" statements do not go to State League games.

I can tell you at Olympic games there is a significant non Greek following - well first and foremost the vast majority of those people consider themselves Australian anyway.

People have old outdated notions.

I am not saying to admit South Melbourne into the A-League. All I am saying is consider the bid on its merits without the prejudice of race or ethnicity.

They have football knowlede, infrastructure, a philosophy, money, a genuine love for the game and a home base which provides a geographical point of differentiation from Melbourne Victory.

If their bid is not good enough fine. But it deserves at least a fair review process based on merit.

If Harry gets a good run of games, and I hope he does, I think the Heart can become a smokey by the seasons end. I do think they recruited well and also have a good blend of experience and youth which is going to need a bit of time to gel. Aloisi looks to have been playing a bit too conservatively so far this season, except the first half against the Roar, where he obviously went out to try to nab a goal early. Mifsud needs his support closer to him to be at his best. Compare his international goal scoring record against Heskey's playing similar opposition and, for me, he is a far better proposition to lead your line. Dugandzic right of him, Williams left and a fit Kewell behind him and that  could be one of the best attacking line-ups in the comp.

Aloisi, on the other hand, needs to start to show some initiative from tonight. Mauk looks the one to fill in behind Mifsud. Migliorini looks a dud...Kalmar been injured?? because the goal threat from midfield he provides would be handy.  They will give us plenty of trouble and I'll be very happy if we can come away with a win. Draw for me.

It is great to see Boban back commenting on this forum. Long before I started posting I admired his erudite and balanced contributions. I too broadly share wendybr's and Boban's feelings about ABC's posts. Perhaps it is easy for us to forget, given our current situation as a club, the anguish most other fans feel at their club's lack of on-field success and popularity.

So I would be prepared to forgive ABC for his transgressions. Manfred was being brutally honest, as appears his style. As one of the few persons left alive (and certainly on this forum) who can state that they watched Manfred play regularly in his prime with BSGSC (yes, that was a very long time ago :-) I can see a parallel with his uncompromising play. Some might say he was being honestly brutal with his comments. Hopefully we remember that we are all part of the Wanderers community/family and that we have far more in common than our posts might at times suggest.

As to the result of today's game, I have no prediction. I would never put any money on any A-League result, so I await it more in hope than expectation.

It is great to see Boban back commenting on this forum. Long before I started posting I admired his erudite and balanced contributions. I too broadly share wendybr's and Boban's feelings about ABC's posts. Perhaps it is easy for us to forget, given our current situation as a club, the anguish most other fans feel at their club's lack of on-field success and popularity.

 

So I would be prepared to forgive ABC for his transgressions. Manfred was being brutally honest, as appears his style. As one of the few persons left alive (and certainly on this forum) who can state that they watched Manfred play regularly in his prime with BSGSC (yes, that was a very long time ago :-) I can see a parallel with his uncompromising play. Some might say he was being honestly brutal with his comments. Hopefully we remember that we are all part of the Wanderers community/family and that we have far more in common than our posts might at times suggest.

 

As to the result of today's game, I have no prediction. I would never put any money on any A-League result, so I await it more in hope than expectation.

Must admit I am finding this tolerance of other team supporters harder to adapt to. I am from the North East of England where the hatred of other teams supporters is drummed in to you at an early age to the extent that there is total crowd segregation and away fans held back in the stadium for 30 mins after the game because they cannot mix outside, been to many games over the years like this where if you show your team colours around the town you end up getting chased by the local hoolies.

What I love about football in this country is that the fans can still mix freely in side and outside the stadiums, even at a derby and long may that continue. I think other fans coming here and posting deff adds benefit to the board and our MH friend was doing ok (apart from the rubbish westie comments).

Anyway I won't sit on the fence, my prediction for tonight     MH 1 - 1 WSW

Just read the tele this morning, apparently Haliti is starting instead of Bridge.

Just read the tele this morning, apparently Haliti is starting instead of Bridge.

Injury or dropped?

Bridge hasn't really got going yet this season.

i think dropped, fair call IMO

I think even with our foot off the pedal and overconfidence, I think our side is still top notch quality and it should shine through in the end.

 

So I think the worst we can expect is a shock draw.

While I'm confident in our team even with hersi out, we can't underestimate the hearts. What they did with roar was quite a surprise. Hopefully they'll be off target. I think the best bet would be to limit them in mid field.

i think dropped, fair call IMO

I think Bridgey has been pretty solid. Remember he has D'Appuzzo supporting while the right side attacker gets Polenz. His defensive work rate has also been immense.

Didn't realise I'd cause such a commotion with my non-offensive posts. In response to not knowing how many games Misfud played: so what! To be honest I never watched the Perth v Heart game on fox nor streamed it live and I don't watch the A-league highlights show on Monday nights on SBS due to training and other commitments.

But you ManfredShaefer my friend, and at the age of 48, you seriously need to grow the f*** up and perhaps spend more time with your wife and kids rather than having a rant on this forum. I have gone through all of my previous posts and cannot find one paragraph, one sentence or even one word bagging WSW. And why would I bag WSW when the cousins and friends I have that live in Sydney ARE FROM THE WEST. Even if I wasn't remotely connected to West Sydney I wouldn't bag WSW or any other team for that matter. I'm even greatful MV have a solid crowd and the style they play (apart from now that Muscrat is the coach). My friend who is from Edensor Park and living in Melbourne for 2 years is coming with me tonight. So ManfredShaefer, if you want to continue acting like a herohead and continue to bag MH then that's fine too. Freedom of speech in Australia is good but posting the way you have is probably not the most intelligent way of going about it.

My prediction for the game tonight? If MH can play both halves it will be a 2-1 win, however gut feeling tells me it will be 2-2.