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Adelaide United vs Western Sydney Wanderers 26/11/2017 7:00PM


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  • Opponent: Adelaide United
    Home Team: Adelaide United
    Away Team: Western Sydney Wanderers
    Sydney Kick-Off Time: 6:30PM EDT
    Round: 8
    Competition: A-League Regular Season
    Location: Adelaide, South Australia
    Stadium: Hindmarsh Stadium
    Result: West Sydney Loss
    Western Sydney Score: 0
    Opponent Score: 2
    Time Of Result: After Extra Time
    Western Sydney Starting Lineup: Vedran Janjetovic, Raul Llorente, Robert Cornthwaite, Michael Thwaite, Josh Risdon, Alvaro Cejudo, Jacob Melling, Roly Bonevacia, Jumpei Kusukami, Oriol Riera, Jaushua Sotirio
    Western Sydney Substitutions: Brendan Hamill (Alvaro Cejudo 27), Kearyn Baccus (Jacob Melling 54), Mark Bridge (Jumpei Kusukami 64)
    Western Sydney Unused Substitues: John Hall, Brendon Santalab
    Western Sydney Cards: Josh Risdon (Yellow 11), Robert Cornthwaite (Yellow 15, 2nd Yellow + Red 21), Roly Bonevacia (Yellow 45), Jacob Melling (45)
    Western Sydney Manager: Josep Gombau
    Opponent Starting Lineup: Paul Izzo, Ersan Gulum, Jordan Elsey, Nikola Mileusnic, Ben Garrucio, Ryan Kitto, Isias Sanchez, Daniel Adlung, Ryan Strain, Karim Matmour, Baba Diawara
    Opponent Substitutions: Mark Ochieng (Ryan Strain 59), George Blackwood (Baba Diawara 71), Nathan Konstandopoulos (Karim Matmour 75)
    Opponent Unused Substitues: Daniel Margush, Ben Warland
    Opponent Goals: Ryan Kitto (45, 63)
    Opponent Cards: Ben Garrucio (Straight Red 77)
    Opponent Manager: Marco Kurz
    Attendance: 8210
    Referee: Chris Beath
    Note 1: This game was a disastrous game for the Video Assistant Review system. The Wanderers should have been awarded a penalty early in the game, but both the referee & VAR missed it.
    Note 2: Robbie Cornthwaite was sent off after a VAR system resulted in the referee changing his mind on a potential handball from no foul, to giving Cornthwaite a second yellow card & giving Adelaide a penalty.
    Note 3: Adelaide's first goal was also a mistake for the VAR, as it missed a clear offside from an Adelaide player before the ball ran through to Kitto.
Adelaide United vs Western Sydney Wanderers 26/11/2017 7:00PM
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4 minutes ago, mack said:

Will Beath and the assistants get next week or two off for:

1) Missing the rugby tackle on Riera.

2) Either missing the Cornthwaite handball entirely, or missing that it was deliberate.

3) Missing the offside on the Adelaide goal.

4) Missing a straight red offence.

No

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Just now, WestSyd said:

The problem with that system was that our fullbacks were always exposed, and teams got behind us on the wings. Best thing to do is get actual good wingers.

Exactly. Although you're changing the argument. 

Back to the point... You come into an established squad, you don't blindly implement your preferred formation/system. You need to work with what you have, especially in a salary capped league. 

Shoehorning two of the most average players into two crucial roles is not smart. 

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9 minutes ago, mack said:

Square up red card.

After Beath gives it a yellow. :nono:

Zetter (VAR) called it not the cheat Beath 

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4 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

Every role is crucial regardlessof the system

Hehe, cute. If you don't understand my point and the difference between (and different skills required) for the way Popa implemented wingers as compared to Gombau, just don't reply :good:

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4 minutes ago, matty said:

Exactly. Although you're changing the argument. 

Back to the point... You come into an established squad, you don't blindly implement your preferred formation/system. You need to work with what you have, especially in a salary capped league. 

Shoehorning two of the most average players into two crucial roles is not smart. 

Maybe use Cejudo and Bridge as wingers - who knows they might go alright

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1 minute ago, matty said:

Exactly. Although you're changing the argument. 

Back to the point... You come into an established squad, you don't blindly implement your preferred formation/system. You need to work with what you have, especially in a salary capped league. 

Shoehorning two of the most average players into two crucial roles is not smart. 

Well he needs to judge what the players can do. 

Sure he’s been in Australia for a while, but he has work out if these players are capable of playing a role in a system he eventually wants to implement.

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1 minute ago, matty said:

Hehe, cute. If you don't understand my point and the difference between (and different skills required) for the way Popa implemented wingers as compared to Gombau, just don't reply :good:

My point is they werent good enough before Gombau

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Just now, Legionista said:

Well he needs to judge what the players can do. 

Sure he’s been in Australia for a while, but he has work out if these players are capable of playing a role in a system he eventually wants to implement.

Of course, I'm just surprised he wouldn't have a better idea. He's seen heaps of our games, surely enough to know Sotirio can't beat a man or cross, both vital for playing a more traditional wing role. He's worked with him for Australia too. 

Anyway, nothing against Gombau, I really like the guy, just puzzling and worrying. 

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Just now, Davo said:

There should be a rule that they take the megaphone off you if it’s louder than the whole active support combined...

or if it can be heard over the rest of the crowd

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2 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

My point is they werent good enough before Gombau

Again, I agree. The difference I'm  trying to point out is they are less suited to playing on the wing in Gombaus system. Just puzzling. 

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3 minutes ago, matty said:

Of course, I'm just surprised he wouldn't have a better idea. He's seen heaps of our games, surely enough to know Sotirio can't beat a man or cross, both vital for playing a more traditional wing role. He's worked with him for Australia too. 

Anyway, nothing against Gombau, I really like the guy, just puzzling and worrying. 

Maybe he just doesn’t think we’ve got any better options.

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Rofl Burn white kits replace with pink kit Oreo jumpei sotiro cejudo please report for free treatment Sam Kerr for marquee striker we got this

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This season was a write off the moment Popa left. Now it seems like a guinea pig season with Gombau implementing his style or whatever.

No doubt for weeks to come you’ll be hearing “we’re still learning Gombaus structure” which is true, just incredibly frustrating for everybody after what started off looking like a promising season. 

Back to the graveyard next week. 

 

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Nana na brendon Santalab brendon Santalab spread the word

Edited by JayZko

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9 minutes ago, btron3000 said:

Maybe he just doesn’t think we’ve got any better options.

Yeah, like I mentioned in other replies, that being the case, don't shoehorn your system into a limited squad. 

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