The Refereeing Thread

[mack]

EPL not using VAR next season.

[Paul01]

7 hours ago, mack said:

EPL not using VAR next season.

But further trialling will be conducted.

At least they have Goal Line Technology.

VAR to be used in FA Cup and League Cup.

[Davo]

Apparently they needed 14 clubs to agree before it could get implemented.

If we had an independent A-League I wonder whether 7 clubs would have agreed to it here?

[Valter43]

KGJ is surely the worst referee in this country. 

[matty]

23 minutes ago, Valter43 said:

KGJ is surely the worst referee in this country. 

I think he knows exactly what he's doing, and he does it well

[tardotz]

No wonder there will be no refs from the FFA at the world cup.

[Paul01]

1 hour ago, matty said:

I think he knows exactly what he's doing, and he does it well

KGJ has a sky blue heart.

The fact that he is head of Referees NSW makes his performance tonight on a par with Jared Gillett's performance in our last grandfinal appearance against Adelaide.

[HillsPanther]

5 hours ago, Valter43 said:

KGJ is surely the worst referee in this country. 

Not if you are an Adelaide fan.

[Davo]

More VAR madness.

The referee misses a handball in a Bundesliga game, blows for half time and the players all go down the tunnel and into the dressing rooms. The referee then checks his little screen and decides it should be a penalty, so he calls the players back out onto the pitch to take the pen, blows half time again and they all go back into the dressing rooms.

[mack]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL0k9qLindk

I thought you weren't allowed to do a VAR review after the half ends? That's what happened to Wellington in one of the first weeks we had VAR, SFC got away with a blatant penalty because the game was over and they couldn't review it.

edit - Also, that handball is hardly an obvious error. It looks bad in slow-mo but everything looks bad in slow mo.

[Davo]

I didn't think you were allowed to either. Does that mean the referee can use the whole half time break to review things? What happens if he realises he made a mistake as the players are walking out for the second half? Can he go back into the first half and award a penalty? Does the half time break start again?

[wendybr]

28 minutes ago, Davo said:

I didn't think you were allowed to either. Does that mean the referee can use the whole half time break to review things? What happens if he realises he made a mistake as the players are walking out for the second half? Can he go back into the first half and award a penalty? Does the half time break start again?

[btron3000]

They should just review every decision after the game and if they think there should have been a pen they can add a decimal amount based on percentage of penalties made in the history of the game. So you could go off with the score 2-2 and end up winning 3.6 to 2.8. 

They could call it the Coca-Cola Big Mac Post Game Penalty Review. 

Simples.

[wendybr]

On 18/4/2018 at 1:24 AM, btron3000 said:

They should just review every decision after the game and if they think there should have been a pen they can add a decimal amount based on percentage of penalties made in the history of the game. So you could go off with the score 2-2 and end up winning 3.6 to 2.8. 

They could call it the Coca-Cola Big Mac Post Game Penalty Review. 

Simples.

Best place on the forums to come for a laugh at the moment.

I guess there's no surprise about that....given the state of officiating in the A League. 

[Edinburgh]

We have a coaching vacancy - I wonder if KGJ is available - he can't referee so he's probably a super coach - that would benefit both groups!

[Paul01]

2 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

We have a coaching vacancy - I wonder if KGJ is available - he can't referee so he's probably a super coach - that would benefit both groups!

Assistant coach on how to win favours and influence A-league officials. 

And he works at Valentine Sports Park. Just 5km away from Wanderers offices.

[wendybr]

That REALLY did ma

10 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

We have a coaching vacancy - I wonder if KGJ is available - he can't referee so he's probably a super coach - that would benefit both groups!

That REALLY did make me laugh!

[wendybr]

7 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

Assistant coach on how to win favours and influence A-league officials. 

And he works at Valentine Sports Park. Just 5km away from Wanderers offices.

That initally made me laugh...then cringe a bit! 

[matty]

8 hours ago, Edinburgh said:

We have a coaching vacancy - I wonder if KGJ is available - he can't referee so he's probably a super coach - that would benefit both groups!

By the looks of him he'd do a great job with the financials 

[Paul01]

Wtf

Gillett pulls up hand grabs but Griffiths-Jones ignores the hand grabs by Adelaide last week.

[Edinburgh]

23 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

Wtf

Gillett pulls up hand grabs but Griffiths-Jones ignores the hand grabs by Adelaide last week.

To be fair KGJ did give yellows for WSW handgrabs!!!! Only Adelaide were exempt from punishment.

[Edinburgh]

I guess someone has to referee the referees ...

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2018/05/05/ligue-1s-top-referee-award-cancelled-after-disgraced-chapron-wins

[mack]

Ref gives two red cards in 30 seconds.

First one a 2nd yellow obviously for dissent/not leaving the penalty arc (#EncroachmentWatch), the next one looked like two yellow cards in a row for dissent and then the 2nd guy looks like he spat at the ref.. which could have seen him get another straight red.

https://streamable.com/n25v3

 

[matty]

Don't mind that from the ref. Players acting like children

[Edinburgh]

6 hours ago, matty said:

Don't mind that from the ref. Players acting like children

Children behave better than that 

[Prydzopolis]

Thoughts? 

Incredibly harsh red, I understand contact was made on the calf but what sort of force did he use? Didn’t like how he didn’t actually view the incident himself, just used VAR to make the decision 

[Paul01]

1 hour ago, Prydzopolis said:

Thoughts? 

Incredibly harsh red, I understand contact was made on the calf but what sort of force did he use? Didn’t like how he didn’t actually view the incident himself, just used VAR to make the decision 

Prydz 

straight for mine. The contact is above the foot with studs showing. no matter the force

[mack]

1) I thought he said Centerlink field.

2) While "using excessive force" is the main condition for a red card, there's also a 2nd part to the description for a red card, which is "endangering the safety of an opponent". His boot went studs up into an opponents knee. He also didn't 'win the ball' he just had it knocked into his foot (which doesn't necessarily matter, but it doesn't help).

Under the laws that is perfectly worthy of a red card, but most refs aren't going to call it in real time. Which is where VAR steps in. It's going to pick up challenges and incidents that the on-field referees miss, and nit-pick them into red cards that would otherwise not happen.

Also: Here's a duck on the pitch in another MLS game.

https://old.reddit.com/r/MLS/comments/9c8wks/duck_invades_field_during_real_salt_lake_vs_la/

[Unlimited]

I think it's more because he went for the other leg which wasn't anywhere near the ball

Muscat-esque

[btron3000]

I’m with Prydz. Harsh. Can’t tell he did it on purpose.

Regardless of whether it was worth a red, I don’t think this is what VAR is for. It should be to overrule obvious errors.

I’m happy that he doesn’t check it himself - that is silly with the ref running over to the sideline to check on a little tv. But don’t take 2 minutes to check it. If you can’t see it’s clearly a red after a couple of quick looks, play on with ref’s original call.

This is the problem with VAR (and video in all sports). People start expecting perfection and it starts getting involved with things it shouldn’t.