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22 hours ago, teddies said:

I give credit to all you guys (girls included) out there in the local leagues running around with whistles in your mouths. You get unwarranted abuse regardless of whether it's related to your call or the game in general. The abusers are like real life keyboard warriors. Like, half of the things coming out of their mouths you wouldn't say to anyone outside of the pitch, right (maybe those who have road rage? and I also get the feeling that hurling abuse is now seen as part and parcel of being a spectator? (not all spectators). 

anyway, all the power to you. You all deserve a lot more match fee and a lot more respect. 

Yours truly, former abuse hurler. 

Teddies

 

Can I also add that my abuse was more like witty banter. I never got personal and threatened to sue or kill anyone. lol

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A worthy mention

Worthy mention, First female referee in second division of France. Last year was first female referee to take a Ligue 1 match before taking the WWC final. Now taking the Super Cup. Great stuff :good:

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21 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

Good yarn. 

After the heat of battle, explanations smooth over disagreements. 

Unfortunately, those post-match press conferences by Managers without decisions explained to them allows for controversy and interesting TV.  However, attitudes to referees are formed by poor responses and this translates poorly to those of who officiate at grassroots.

The attitude of the players is interesting. Nothing but respect from the professionals. However,  in the heat of battle during a game things seem different. Just look a Brosque and Matt Simon for may off pitch show the utmost respect for match officials but on the pitch we are given a different picture.

And, directly from an A-league match "We are trained to keep players on the pitch." That just does not help if serious foul play, violent conduct and abuse (of players or match officials) is not dealt with appropriately on pitch, those at grassroots enforcing the LOTG struggle with the responses from players and coaches. I call many a foul throw from juniors and occasionally adults, the response I got from one coach was "but it's the same as A-league throws"

We need consistent application of the LOTG from the professional leagues to grassroots with no tolerance to abuse against anyone on the pitch e.g. Craig Goodwin telling Riera to f*** o** with no action taken by referee. Goodwin should have been sent off for that. Let alone the multiple Brosque and Matt Simon incidents.

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Don't know if this performance by Italian defender Claudio Gentile set some sort of record. In the 1982 World Cup he was tasked with marking Maradona in a group match.

Gentile tripped, kicked, elbowed, bumped etc etc Maradona consistently and ferociously recording 32 fouls. 

After the game the players didn't bother exchanging shirts...probably as Maradona didn't have much of his left on his back.

I wonder how much the Ref got in match fees for His performance?

Treatment such as this was commonly dished out by defenders on Class attackers in the 60's, 70, and 80's. Players such as Maradona, Pele, Best and Cruyff etc have/ had the permanent physical scars on their legs to prove it.

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Jarred Gillett at it again in the English Championship.

He centred the Blackburn Rovers v Middlesbrough game (win to Blackburn Rovers). He issue 8 yellows in total to Blackburn and 3 to Middlesbrough. No reds. A-league form:xnod:

He also centred the Round 2 game between Derby County and Swansea. 3 yellows in that game.

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1 hour ago, Davo said:

 

Might have to my tipping for that game.

He probably substitute in his mind, Watford for the Smurfs and West Ham for WS Wanderers.

Or am wrong on that assessment?

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3 hours ago, Paul01 said:

Might have to my tipping for that game.

He probably substitute in his mind, Watford for the Smurfs and West Ham for WS Wanderers.

Or am wrong on that assessment?

He'll favour the Kopites just as he did here where he favoured the Kopites of the ALeague

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5 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

He'll favour the Kopites just as he did here where he favoured the Kopites of the ALeague

So who are the kopites in Watford v West ham game?

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1 hour ago, Paul01 said:

So who are the kopites in Watford v West ham game?

Neither..really I was more thinking of when he gets the true kopites games on the EPL 

Watford file under mostly harmless small club

west Ham meh

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21 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

Neither..really I was more thinking of when he gets the true kopites games on the EPL 

Watford file under mostly harmless small club

west Ham meh

Gillett supported Liverpool and to declare it on his application. He is not allowed to officiate at their games.

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Competitions using VAR can decide not to yellow card keepers encroaching.

But only for shootouts.

But if they encroach a few times then you card them anyway.

Oh and also we're allowing referees/VAR to ignore encroachment if the kick is missed, or it rebounds from the goalposts.

They've taken what used to be a simple law that was generally ignored by referees, and turned it into a situation where one single offence (keeper encroachment), now has 6? Different results.

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a regulation time penalty kick and shot saved = Retake & Yellow Card

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a regulation time penalty kick and shot missed/rebounds off posts = No retake, no card.

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a penalty shootout kick where "YC dispensation" is used and shot saved = Retake, no card.

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a penalty shootout kick where "YC dispensation" is used and shot saved, but keeper has "persistently" offended = Retake, yellow card.

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a penalty shootout kick where "dispensation" is not used and shot saved = Retake, yellow card.

GK Encroachment seen by match officials or VAR in a penalty shootout kick and shot missed/rebounds off posts = No retake, no card.

Also, it's ridiculous to add a law that makes it a dropped ball if it touches the referee, and then put in an exception if it goes out out of play. If the ref touching the ball is such a dramatic intervention IFAB believes that event requires stopping the game to do a drop ball, then it shouldn't matter what happens to the ball after it touches them. It should be stopped immediately! So a ref after he touches the ball, now has to wait and "play advantage" to see what happens to the ball after it touches them, instead of just blowing it up immediately.

Haha, this little note at the end:

"Reviews are not permitted for a ‘second chance’ to look at an incident or to confirm or ‘sell’ a decision which was not clearly wrong."

Gillett said exactly that when Fox Sports put a microphone on him.

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Sometimes I really struggle to understand what they were thinking (or perhaps more importantly, not thinking) when they come up with their decisions/interpretations of the laws and the application of VAR.

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