Alexander Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Great doco a couple of weeks ago on Sep Blatter in a Dateline styled report. Really interesting how he maintains his power. Includes an interview the famed whistleblower who witnessed with her own eyes executive committee members getting paid off by Qatari 2022 WC officials. http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/2448567/sepp-blatter-and-fifa-e60-reports-with-jeremy-schaap Warning: after watching this you may get the urge to punch a wall Edited May 27, 2015 by Alexander DinoPresinger, Prydzopolis and lloydy136 3 Link to comment
Smoggy Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Great doco a couple of weeks ago on Sep Blatter in a Dateline styled report. Really interesting how he maintains his power. Includes an interview the famed whistleblower who witnessed with her own eyes executive committee members getting paid off by Qatari 2022 WC officials. http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/2448567/sepp-blatter-and-fifa-e60-reports-with-jeremy-schaap Warning: after watching this you may get the urge to punch a wall No... I just get the urge to punch Blatter in the face, but I get that urge every time I see his face. What is the betting non of this sticks his way, untouchable.. or is he? Edited May 27, 2015 by WSWBoro DinoPresinger, Alexander and Prydzopolis 3 Link to comment
Convertedfan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) FIFA have a press conference in 25 mins be interesting to see if they go straight into denial mode . Stream will be in link http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/27/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-live Edited May 27, 2015 by Convertedfan Alexander and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I hope they send them all to a firing squad and shoot them it's **** long overdue filthy **** rats But once again blather the filthiest rat of all lives to fight another day The most resilient human ever Prydzopolis and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Should FIFA be able to cleanse itself from Blatter: imagine the bonfires and jubilations world wide. And Sepp could all watch in on TV... Priceless. Nnnnnathan12, DinoPresinger and Prydzopolis 3 Link to comment
ManfredSchaefer Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Right now I suspect the events in Zurich are not entirely dissimilar to those in Russia during the 1905 (abortive) Revolution. The Czar may be still in place, but his regime is doomed Alexander 1 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 live on guardian website, FBI and US attorney general talking about the charges http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/27/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-live Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
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marron Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Right now I suspect the events in Zurich are not entirely dissimilar to those in Russia during the 1905 (abortive) Revolution. The Czar may be still in place, but his regime is doomed Great. Can't wait for the stalin equivalent..... DinoPresinger and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Right now I suspect the events in Zurich are not entirely dissimilar to those in Russia during the 1905 (abortive) Revolution. The Czar may be still in place, but his regime is doomed Great. Can't wait for the stalin equivalent..... DinoPresinger, Prydzopolis, lloydy136 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
lloydy136 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fifa exco jailed, Qatar scrapped wc2022 awarded to australia, Eddie Mcguire spontaneously combusts. sounds good to me. Prydzopolis, GunnerWanderer, wendybr and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Nnnnnathan12 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 At the end of the day, Blatter would've learnt one thing, Don't **** around with the FBI and the americans when they want something Prydzopolis and Alexander 2 Link to comment
West13 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Love how FIFA say 'we welcome this, SHOWS WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK'. Yep right track being only 7 or whatever arrested, not the hundreds of them! DinoPresinger, Prydzopolis and Alexander 3 Link to comment
Convertedfan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Love how FIFA say 'we welcome this, SHOWS WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK'. Yep right track being only 7 or whatever arrested, not the hundreds of them! I'm hoping people start taking deals and implicate others . Alexander, Prydzopolis and DinoPresinger 3 Link to comment
ManfredSchaefer Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Gonna put it out there...within a year we will see a split in world football with the two camps forming. One will be aligned with those who have a vested interest in Blatter, in Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022. There will be dozens of FAs from Africa, Asia, perhaps South America and maybe even a couple from Europe or Central America who will stick it out with the corrupt arseholes of Blatter's brown nosers and partners in crime. The rest of the world, particularly led by most of UEFA (including heavyweights like the FA, the DFB, the Spanish, Italian, Dutch etc), several Asian FAs (including the FFA and I suspect several East Asian FAs), North America and hopefully a lot of others from around the world will form another. My reasoning for this? The system first established by Havelange and then specialised into a fine art by Blatter of pandering to, sucking off and paying off big numbers of non-European, non-western FAs has now got deep roots of support now, and they will want to keep up the corrupt regime of FIFA as it is because it's in their mutual interest. For those who are welcoming and supporting the actions of the Yanks and Swiss authorities, they may not have the numbers in the FIFA ExCo or assembly but they are the real centres of football's most significant economies and traditions. The most important influences now are where some of the emerging economic and political FAs swing, and whether enough internal pressures from FIFA members will be brought to bear to cut the organisation's losses and get rid of Blatter. If say Japan, China, Brazil and/or South Africa swing behind a reformist agenda then Blatter will go and we won't see a split. If these sorts of countries and FAs stick with Blatter, we will have two separate world football organising bodies just in time for what would've been Russia 2018. Alexander, DinoPresinger and Prydzopolis 3 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 There would be a lot of people within FIFA who's survival depends on Blatter's survival. They can't vote against him. It is quite astonishing that this mess happened on Blatter's watch, and yet he talks and behaves as if it has nothing to do with him. Extraordinary. I sincerely hope that UEFA will make a stand and exit FIFA if Blatter stays. Others no doubt would follow. Let the rest play the "World Cups" in Russia and Qatar, and let's start again with a new governing body for the 2026 build up. Prydzopolis and Alexander 2 Link to comment
ManfredSchaefer Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 There would be a lot of people within FIFA who's survival depends on Blatter's survival. They can vote against him. It is quite astonishing that this mess happened on Blatter's watch, and yet he talks and behaves as if it has nothing to do with him. Extraordinary. I sincerely hope that UEFA will make a stand and exit FIFA if Blatter stays. Others no doubt would follow. Let the rest play the "World Cups" in Russia and Qatar, and let's start again with a new governing body for the 2026 build up. FCB...think you'll find this is the sort of crap that had its germ in the days of Joao Havelange. The stuff that he pulled in his election campaign to win the FIFA presidency over Stanley Rous back in 1974, the manner in which he formed alliances with the likes of Adi Dassler, and his work both wihtin and against the IOC during the Samaranch era all indicate Blatter's watch wasn't where it all happened...Septic inherited and refined systemic corruption, expanded it through his mates and acolytes, and has taken FIFA down the S-Bend of world sport quicker and deeper than any other international sports organisation Prydzopolis and Alexander 2 Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 **** that boycott the next 2 FIFA cups and create super league World Cup It's the only way to get blatter to take notice also that way if we can get UEFA and South America to do we can the back out and win the FIFA one lol Prydzopolis and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 All of this makes Charles Dempsey appear in a different light. He didn't vote in 2000 because of the pressure both the German and South African camp put him under, and - shock horror - he actually refused to take bribes. His behaviour at the time was considered a scandal. Times have definitely changed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sport/2000/2006_world_cup_decision/823768.stm DinoPresinger, Prydzopolis and Alexander 3 Link to comment
westofcentre Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 lol pretty funny if you have a spare 13 mins Wanderer74, wendybr, Edinburgh and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Smoggy Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 A spokesman for the Swiss authorities said: "we were happy to protect the Nazis, but FIFA just took things too far". Just a little ironic this is all taking place in the Swiss safe haven of corruption and built on tax dodging with so much dirty money going through its own banks. Alexander, Prydzopolis, ManfredSchaefer and 1 other 4 Link to comment
btron3000 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The farwits have had their noses in the trough for so long there is now almost a sense of omerta between all the shonks. No one is willing to put their hands up and say 'Yep, you got me bang to rights guv'nor' and then proceed to grass up their bribed mates... Back in December you called what was needed! What we didn't know at the time was the Chuck Blazer, he of the incredibly American name, was doing just that! Apparently Blazer even wore a wire at one point http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/27/several-top-fifa-officials-arrested Love how FIFA say 'we welcome this, SHOWS WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK'. Yep right track being only 7 or whatever arrested, not the hundreds of them! I'm hoping people start taking deals and implicate others . I think it's a good chance. These guys aren't mob bosses who will take pride in keeping their mouths shut to defend their family. Faced with up to 5, 10 or even 20 years in gaol, these guys will be racing each other to dump on Blatter. And I think we have to assume that will be the FBI tactics - make these dudes sweat till they cut a deal. ManfredSchaefer and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Blatter will go. This is only day 2 of something that will take months. Read the charges in the indictment. I posted the whole document on the Media thread. Blatter absolutley cannot survive this. His position is completely untenable. He is 79 years old also. We are talking bribes at a level never before seen. Laundering and wire fraud. In one tournament alone a 30 million dollar bribe was paid for only a 70 million dollar contract. It would be impossible for Blatter to not be aware of what was happening when you are talking upwards of 30% of money being for kickbacks. These people arrested will sing like canarys in a coal mine. The Yank authorities know how to stand over people, how to lean on them. 4 people have already pled guilty. And when American authorities make a case such as this, in the public way they have this one, they never, ever, lose the case. Blatter is toast. Just be patient and watch it unfold. FIFA as we know it is a dead man walking. The people will soon have their game back like they should. ---------------------------------- Here's the indictment in full. It's a staggering document. We are talking 160+ pages of charges. Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars being sucked out of te people's game, 2 decades of systemic corruption (you couldn't be a big player in FIFA unless you were corrupt), And all facilitated under the watchful eye of Mr Blatter. Dead man walking. http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8670655/fifa-indictment-text wendybr, GunnerWanderer, lloydy136 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
westofcentre Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 He has survived this long Zip I think in can do it again. We are talking about FIFA. In saying that this is the best chance we have to get rid of him. The US are involved they know how to oust despots plus correct me if I'm wrong but although he is not yet directly linked to any fraud or corruption charges, if you are part of the system, or head of it you can still be liable. Ignorance is not a case (excuse). Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Read the indictment brother. There's no way FIFA is surviving, let alone Sepp. This will be a root and branch clean out, as one by one they squeel. Alexander and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
DinoPresinger Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The best thing that could happen is for FIFA to be disbanded and a new organisation set up. That way the 2018 and 2022 world cups could go to nations that weren't (as) corrupt. I hate that a corrupt situation can be made, found out and then punished except THE CORRUPT DECISION STANDS Prydzopolis and Alexander 2 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Swiss authorities raided fifa headquarters last night and confiscated all their documents. It's not just Uncle Sam who is turning the screws. The best thing that could happen is for FIFA to be disbanded and a new organisation set up. That way the 2018 and 2022 world cups could go to nations that weren't (as) corrupt. I hate that a corrupt situation can be made, found out and then punished except THE CORRUPT DECISION STANDS There is an orginisation that has been running for a few years now called "NewFIFA". They are currently lobbying fiercely to all the major associations around the world. CONCACAF as an entity is already finished, but they won't stop there. The old world football powers will fall. One by one. Viva la revolucion! Prydzopolis, DinoPresinger and Alexander 3 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 NewFiFaNow.org http://www.newfifanow.org Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Alexander Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 This was always going to happen after FIFA screwed over the US in the WC bids. What did we lose in our bid $50 million? The U.S. would have spent at least that in theirs. Not to mention the embarrassment of the U.S. being outbid by (potentially) Russia & Qatar. Oh and not only did FIFA take their money knowing that they had no intentions of choosing them, but what about wheh they forced the bidders to either pick 2018 or 2022 at the last minute. They would not have been able to take that into account when deciding on whether or to bid. Prydzopolis and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
Guest ZipGunBop Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I'm considering buying a plane ticket to new York and setting up shanty town. We can light candles and burn effigies of Sepp. Who's with me? Prydzopolis, Alexander and GunnerWanderer 3 Link to comment
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