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Around the Bloc S05E05: The Ghost of Sotirio's Arse

A little negativity has seeped into the mindset of the Wanderers fan base and the team discuss why that could be. The football is the obvious choice after the weekends disappointing 1-1 draw, and after that we try to look at the positives leading into this weeks game away to Perth.

 

All this and more on this episode of Around the Bloc

 

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OK, so you’ve touched on an interesting topic this week with this “community Club†concept and what we thought was our “Identityâ€.

 

As long as the FFA is connected to the league it will never be a community club. The argument that it started as a “community†initiative is misleading, as it was merely a disguise for the reality that we were involved in possibly the biggest (cheap) PR stunt (customer research project) for the FFA.

 

The commercialisation of sport is a concept that I have been very much critical of for a very long time. Whenever I raise the notion that sport should be “not-for-profit†I generally get one of two responses:

 

Firstly, and more common, the basic respondent argues that without the inflow of money we would lack the resources to be able to excel and provide for the quality we are privileged to have or possible to get. This includes the ability to keep talented athletes from seeking professional opportunities in other areas and for the utilisation of technology and R&D in improving the technical ability, and therefore allowing for better performance. IMO, this is misguided perception. You can make all the money you want, but give it to the athletes and the members. And here's the problem.

 

At the moment Professional sport in Australia is controlled (and informally owned) by media bodies. Australia does not have the resources (ranging from population first and foremost, to the number of wealthy elite to invest), to go towards maintaining the high level of competitiveness we want to have, at a local focus (eg Western Sydney Community). The bottom line is, it needs to satisfy owners’/shareholders’ returns. So return on investment is the priority, not your local community benefits.

 

The second, more realist response I would get is the argument that “well if they didn’t get decent financial returns then who would do it?†This is true. Regardless of right or wrong, we live in a culture where we value money very highly.  This also flows on from the first point above because it means that the only source of resources will be from Business Investment.

 

The point is, Professional sport in Australia is f'kd because we are dependent on investment from sources that don’t value the intrinsic output of sporting talent and need to gain attention of a culture of greedy entitled ****s that are easy to manipulate. Tribalism has no place in a business agenda, because the aim is to generate exposure in the masses, not a concentrated group.

 

TLDR: Australia is the best country on Earth, but we are a culture of greedy entitled ****s that are easy to manipulate to make a quick buck.

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The community involvement early on was more than just the forums and voting.

People were making suggestions about the game day experience which were followed up on immediately. People were encouraged to bring all sorts of concession items. Like Brendan said - and this might have been because of necessity , sure - the sponsors were local. The press from the club... well I don't know about that actually, I don't remember. But I don't think we got encouragements to bet on the Melbourne cup. Players were seen at fan events. Suits too.

 

I agree with what you're saying and what turner said as well about it just being a commercial reality.

 

As I've said elsewhere, we probably all deep down understood this. This didn't matter where we could create our own community feeling at parramatta - western Sydney's cbd arguably - through pre and post game rituals which all fed into the fan created atmosphere too at the ground. That's where the community club identity was also built.

 

But that's gone and left the commercial reality in plain sight.

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There's a lot of unrest, disappointment and negativity being felt by Wanderers' fans at the moment - for reasons both on and off the field. 

 

I thought these first 40 minutes of this week's episode, articulated what a lot of our fan base is feeling, extremely well.    :xnod:  :xnod:

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I'm a supporter member too... except I haven't bought a house like Ivàn. I'm just unable to make each and every game to get value out of my membership.

 

If you know what I mean... 

 

christian-bale-1.jpg

 

(congrats on the house too, Ivàn!)

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I'm a supporter member too... except I haven't bought a house like Ivàn. I'm just unable to make each and every game to get value out of my membership.

 

If you know what I mean... 

 

christian-bale-1.jpg

 

(congrats on the house too, Ivàn!)

 

How are those ballerinas doing on your boat cruisers, Spec?

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I'm a supporter member too... except I haven't bought a house like Ivàn. I'm just unable to make each and every game to get value out of my membership.

 

If you know what I mean... 

 

christian-bale-1.jpg

 

(congrats on the house too, Ivàn!)

 

How are those ballerinas doing on your boat cruisers, Spec?

 

 

Splendidly! Had to cancel their performance so they could come and stay. 

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The community involvement early on was more than just the forums and voting.

People were making suggestions about the game day experience which were followed up on immediately. People were encouraged to bring all sorts of concession items. Like Brendan said - and this might have been because of necessity , sure - the sponsors were local. The press from the club... well I don't know about that actually, I don't remember. But I don't think we got encouragements to bet on the Melbourne cup. Players were seen at fan events. Suits too.

 

I agree with what you're saying and what turner said as well about it just being a commercial reality.

 

As I've said elsewhere, we probably all deep down understood this. This didn't matter where we could create our own community feeling at parramatta - western Sydney's cbd arguably - through pre and post game rituals which all fed into the fan created atmosphere too at the ground. That's where the community club identity was also built.

 

But that's gone and left the commercial reality in plain sight.

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The first 60 min of the podcast was depressing :sorry: . Which is the actual opposite of how the team is playing on the pitch. how ironic.  :crazy:

After being on that damn waiting list for so long to get active support I was pumped up for this season as i committed myself to going to every home game this season. RBB split, over policing, people getting separated, travel, weak bear, inflation etc.  :xmad: ....

...I AM STILL GOING TO EVERY GAME  :xbop:  through thick and thin, win or lose, in the good times i will follow and in the bad i swear that i will not leave.

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I tend to log on here about once every two weeks, and I love all the responses (particularly to the things that I say!) haha.

 

Regarding the betting company, I totally get we need sponsors but ffs I wish we could get them from ANYwhere else. I haven't got a problem with gambling but I do have a huge issue with it's promotion, particularly in an area such as western Sydney. Besides, the ads are AWFUL

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I tend to log on here about once every two weeks, and I love all the responses (particularly to the things that I say!) haha.

 

Regarding the betting company, I totally get we need sponsors but ffs I wish we could get them from ANYwhere else. I haven't got a problem with gambling but I do have a huge issue with it's promotion, particularly in an area such as western Sydney. Besides, the ads are AWFUL

 

On the betting, the WSW app no longer has the ads at the bottom, and the website took down the major ad on the sides and changed them back to WSW merch but does have a small banner on the right in the last quarter of the site. An improvement, still don't like it though and would much prefer, as julyaugustreno siad ANYwhere else.

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I tend to log on here about once every two weeks, and I love all the responses (particularly to the things that I say!) haha.

 

Regarding the betting company, I totally get we need sponsors but ffs I wish we could get them from ANYwhere else. I haven't got a problem with gambling but I do have a huge issue with it's promotion, particularly in an area such as western Sydney. Besides, the ads are AWFUL

On the betting, the WSW app no longer has the ads at the bottom, and the website took down the major ad on the sides and changed them back to WSW merch but does have a small banner on the right in the last quarter of the site. An improvement, still don't like it though and would much prefer, as julyaugustreno siad ANYwhere else.

You'd find it was ramped up for Melbourne Cup. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reappear prominently around finals time.

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