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I'm glad we're getting new stadiums.

I wish it was ANZ that got the knock down rebuild option rather than Allianz. 

But I like sport. I like watching sport in good stadiums. I'm glad they're actually getting done.

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Gonna lock this for a while. It's getting off topic.

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Re-opened.

SFS knockdown was apparently delayed by 6 months because of the politics.

ANZ knockdown or refurb is coming on the agenda, but nothing concrete as yet.

Western United and their new owners haven't said a word about their new stadium.

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On 27/03/2019 at 2:41 PM, mack said:

Re-opened.

SFS knockdown was apparently delayed by 6 months because of the politics.

ANZ knockdown or refurb is coming on the agenda, but nothing concrete as yet.

Western United and their new owners haven't said a word about their new stadium.

I’m hoping to be proven wrong but I’ve been sceptical throughout the bidding process and still am. For some reason the FFA and media have completely fallen for what so far is just a bunch of words and shiny artists impressions...

Looking at how they’re going about signing players, you’d think that urgency and efficiency would extend to building this ‘game changing’ stadium if they were serious about doing so 🤔

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30 minutes ago, hughsey said:

I’m hoping to be proven wrong but I’ve been sceptical throughout the bidding process and still am. For some reason the FFA and media have completely fallen for what so far is just a bunch of words and shiny artists impressions...

Looking at how they’re going about signing players, you’d think that urgency and efficiency would extend to building this ‘game changing’ stadium if they were serious about doing so 🤔

Agree fully.

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The first set of owners were serious, because they needed a stadium to get their free land to build a billion dollar housing estate on. But the housing market dropped, they pulled out after the FFA took their money for the license, and now the new owners don't seem as keen on getting it done and are trying to figure out how to do a cut price stadium that still gets them the free land so they can do a smaller estate.

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10 minutes ago, mack said:

The first set of owners were serious, because they needed a stadium to get their free land to build a billion dollar housing estate on. But the housing market dropped, they pulled out after the FFA took their money for the license, and now the new owners don't seem as keen on getting it done and are trying to figure out how to do a cut price stadium that still gets them the free land so they can do a smaller estate.

Is there a precedent for this kind of model being successful anywhere in the world?  Last thing we need are more Clive Palmer/Nathan Tinkler types owning A-League clubs I reckon.

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How has this not been posted yst

Sydney FC, Roosters and Waratahs want LED ‘curtain’ at new Allianz Stadium

MARCH 28, 2019

Sydney FC, the Roosters and the Waratahs are leading a push to ensure the NSW Government follows through on promises to include a multi-mode “curtain” in the new Allianz Stadium design, to avoid the sight of playing in a two-thirds empty venue every week.

With the coalition government returned to office in last weekend’s election, the nine tenants of the Moore Park precinct are lobbying for money to be found to pay for some form of curtain that can cover the top section of the stadium, after it was quietly dropped from the 45,000-seat design last year on grounds of cost.

After Infrastructure NSW confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that the curtain isn’t in the $729m design presented by the government last year, the SCG Trust is also pushing heavily to meet the promises made to the major tenants in return for them supporting a full rebuild.

When they announced their public backing for a rebuild of the stadium in November 2017, both Sydney FC and the Roosters trumpeted the inclusion of an LED curtain that would carry their livery and disguise the empty tiers of seats during regular games.

3894c64149e2d6afec413b77b544e3ab?width=1024 An early artist’s impression of how a LED ‘curtain’ at the new Allianz Stadium might look.

Sydney FC averaged just under 15,000 crowds at their home games last season, with the Roosters and Waratahs some 1500 less. It’s widely feared the stadium will be a white elephant if it looks mostly empty week in, week out.

After external reviewers went through the stadium plans last year, both the curtain and the so-called “media halo”, an LED display at the edge of the roof, were dropped to save $46m — though the defined tiers of seating necessary will be built, and the roof designed, to allow for a curtain to be installed retrospectively.

5838d271aa19fd50b1e36664f9da9be7?width=1024 An artist’s impression of the new Allianz Stadium.

A spokesperson for Sports Minister Stuart Ayres would only confirm that the demolition of the stadium had begun, and construction of the new entity is due to start next year.

But Infrastructure NSW, which will manage the project, confirmed there is currently no curtain budgeted for.

“The $729 million rebuild of the Sydney Football Stadium announced by the NSW Government in March 2018 did not include a club mode curtain,” a spokesperson said.

“However, the stadium’s roof and upper tier is being designed to permit the future installation of a club mode curtain.”

But a briefing document prepared by the SCG Trust for its tenants four months before the winning design was announced said it would “boast a world-first dual operating modes … Club mode will have 30,000 seats available with a revolutionary LED mesh curtain covering the top deck, keeping the sound in the stadium and providing the ability to display images and branding to generate atmosphere.

“In championship mode the curtain lifts to make the full 45,000-seat capacity available for major events.”

It’s understood the curtain remains a major priority for the Trust, after the Alliance of Moore Park Sports — its tenants — met this week and agreed to step up lobbying of government now the election is over.

The final design for the interior of the stadium will be drawn up in coming months.

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38 minutes ago, wengerboy said:

45k for event mode, 30k for club mode and 10k for sydney fc mode.

And a five year rebuild 

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Love this bit

Sydney FC averaged just under 15,000 crowds at their home games last season, with the Roosters and Waratahs some 1500 less. It’s widely feared the stadium will be a white elephant if it looks mostly empty week in, week out.

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“Sydney FC, the Roosters and the Waratahs are leading a push to ensure the NSW Government follows through on promises to include a multi-mode “curtain” in the new Allianz Stadium design, to avoid the sight of playing in a two-thirds empty venue every week.“

If it’s every week then why the **** are they making it so big in the first place? 

That weird Australian kink of building unnecessarily large stadiums on display yet again...

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Because they have 10,000 SCG/SFS members they need to accommodate for big games. Imagine if for our new stadium instead of having one main grandstand for the corporate crowd, both long stands were for them and all the public had to cram into the two ends.

The real solution is intelligently only selling the lower bowl of the ground and capping attendences at whatever the lower bowl is plus the scg/sfs members and if possibly adding a tarp thing but that's somewhat pointless imo.

I'm looking forward to hopefully them knocking down ANZ at some point and making it a 70/80k rectangle.

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What fixtures sell out Allianz these days? The derby hasn’t even been close to a sellout for almost 2 seasons now and Anzac Day between Roosters and Dragons hasn’t seen the official sellout sign go up for a while either. I can’t think of any other games that occur there that would sell out other than a one off international for perhaps the Socceroos or Wallabies though that’s highly unlikely given ANZ exists. The SCG members are fickle with their attendance of non cricket events at the best of times. 

It makes no sense both logistically and financially to spend money on an extra 15k seats for the chance that the stadium may sell out less than a handful of times a year. Then on top of that cost, spending more money on a curtain to hide the fact that those extra 15k seats will rarely fill up in the first place. 

What ever happened to the concept of supply and demand? It’s like it doesn’t seem to count when it comes to stadia

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Just now, hughsey said:

What fixtures sell out Allianz these days? The derby hasn’t even been close to a sellout for almost 2 seasons now and Anzac Day between Roosters and Dragons hasn’t seen the official sellout sign go up for a while either. I can’t think of any other games that occur there that would sell out other than a one off international for perhaps the Socceroos or Wallabies though that’s highly unlikely given ANZ exists. The SCG members are fickle with their attendance of non cricket events at the best of times. 

It makes no sense both logistically and financially to spend money on an extra 15k seats for the chance that the stadium may sell out less than a handful of times a year. Then on top of that cost, spending more money on a curtain to hide the fact that those extra 15k seats will rarely fill up in the first place. 

What ever happened to the concept of supply and demand? It’s like it doesn’t seem to count when it comes to stadia

It’s a power trip by the old boys on he SCG Trust

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So yesterday Suncorp was used for an NRL game with about 21,000 attending. How will the the pitch look for the Roar v Smurfs game?

Tonight,  ANZ will be used for the NRL game between Parramatta and Easts NRL and then we get it the next day for the game against Heartle$$

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8 hours ago, Paul01 said:

So yesterday Suncorp was used for an NRL game with about 21,000 attending. How will the the pitch look for the Roar v Smurfs game?

Tonight,  ANZ will be used for the NRL game between Parramatta and Easts NRL and then we get it the next day for the game against Heartle$$

As long as they have Wi-Fi, the government can call them World Class and have them compared to Levi's stadium; those issues are irrelevant it appears 

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Sfs roof is coming down.

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1 minute ago, mack said:

There's more shade in that post than the SFS every gave.

One of the design features of the new stadium is the better roof cover which shifts the drip line to cover most of the seating.  Covering more drips seems quite appropriate methinks.

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2 hours ago, Flytox said:

One of the design features of the new stadium is the better roof cover which shifts the drip line to cover most of the seating.  Covering more drips seems quite appropriate methinks.

Maybe it should drain on the away bay.

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I posted the following more about the stadium upgrade than where Grand Finals are going to be held.

Also, there'll be two MORE teams ripping up the surface at Bankwest. FMD.

 

 

SCG set to host NRL grand final after ANZ renovation
Author
Michael ChammasChief Reporter
Timestamp
Wed 12 Jun 2019, 05:46 PM

ANZ Stadium will undergo a facelift after next year's State of Origin series, handing the Sydney Cricket Ground the rights to at least the 2020 NRL grand final during construction.

The NRL told club chief executives and chairs at a meeting in Sydney on Wednesday that ANZ Stadium would be out of action after next year's Origin series opener at the Olympic venue.

It will leave the Bulldogs and Rabbitohs searching for a new home for the second half of the season, but also the NRL for its major events.

It's likely the Bulldogs and Rabbitohs will play the majority of their home games in the first half of the year and are expected to take most of their remaining games to Bankwest Stadium.

ANZ Stadium, which will be transformed into a 70-75,000 seat rectangular facility, will be out of action until the start of the 2023 NRL season.

The Sydney Cricket Ground will host grand final day in 2020 with the NRL in discussion with the NSW Government about locking in the next two grand finals after that.

The new stadium at Moore Park is expected in early 2022.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/12/scg-set-to-host-2020-2021-nrl-grand-finals/

Edited by Wanderboy

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‘European’ game-day experience tipped for A-League in Canberra

‘EUROPEAN’ GAME-DAY EXPERIENCE TIPPED FOR A-LEAGUE IN CANBERRA

By Aidan Ormond Jun 12 2019 7:00AM
 

Canberra’s planned new stadium is tipped to have a European stadium experience inside and out, but without an A-League licence, the business case for this new stadium remains unclear.

Backers of the proposed city centre-based Canberra stadium - potentially holding 20-25,000 with the option of a possible roof - believe the stadium will be more than just a football venue for A-League and W-League. 

They say the new city-based stadium will show off Canberra's resurgent restaurant and bar scene in the city, and become a matchday hub for visiting and home fans.

The Canberra A-League Bid believes the game-day experience will rival that of Western Sydney Wanderers’ new BankWest Stadium.

 
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And with a new billion dollar tram line terminating at the venue to deliver fans right into the stadium, the precinct around the stadium and the high-tiered stands inside are expected to deliver an authentic football experience.

“It’ll be the ultimate game-day experience with a precinct like you see in Europe and in the MLS. It’ll all be about the fans," Michael Caggiano, from the A-League For Canberra Bid, told FTBL

“Looking at some of the preliminary stadium plans it looks very exciting. It’s all about fan engagement and the game-day fan experience.

"So, spending a day not just at the game but everything else on game day with all the restaurants, cafes and bars and the stadium precinct will be a huge attraction.

"People spending more time on site than just going to the game. It's not just about the game, it's the build-up and after the game.

"And Canberra is a beautiful city." 

Canberra has traditionally suffered from a perception that there's little to do in the city, especially on weekends.

But times have changed and the new stadium's location is designed to take advantage of the city's growing cafe/restaurant/bar scene as part of a weekend summer getaway. 

For visiting fans, it’s a relatively safe city and value for money, and a short flight from Victoria and South Australia.

The purpose-built rectangular stadium will be more convenient than the current Canberra Stadium as it is located in Canberra's centre, with views of Lake Burley Griffin and Parliament House.

The Canberra A-League Bid are getting all their ducks in a row thanks to the ACT Government, who have funded a $20m home of football set to be built in 2021 at Throsby, a venue which could also house A-League operations.

Winter codes NRL and Union are expected to play at the new rectangular venue. A-League in summer would complete the usage trifecta.

 

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But, for the stadium to be built, the ACT government needs to see an A-League licence awarded in order to justify building a year-round venue, said to cost anywhere from $400-700m.

“An A-League club is very much part of the business case for a new stadium in Canberra. It needs year-round usage. And a Canberra A-League team can provide that,” he added.

Canberra’s other football codes - NRL and Union - are united behind the idea as Canberra continues to make its case for inclusion into the A-League.

The ACT government is considered one of the most progressive in the country when it comes to sport.

Their upgrades on Canberra cricket venue Manuca Oval and a $20m commitment to a Home of Football in Canberra are two examples.

“The Home of Football is being built next year. It’s the sort of set up clubs in the EPL would die for.

“The ACT Government always puts its money where its mouth is when it comes to sport.

"They gave us a commitment of $12m minimum for the next 10 years for our own [A-League] team to fund operations.

“We’ve got international investors interested in these types of stadium projects in terms of delivering the stadium in Canberra.

“But the current way forward is looking like a government-funded initiative,” Caggiano explained.

One new A-League club enters the competition this year in Western United, based in Western Melbourne.

In 2020, Macarthur Bulls from Sydney’s sprawling south-west will make it a 12-team competition.

Canberra believes the next phase of expansion should focus on the nation’s capital, as they continue pushing their case for inclusion.

"Our proximity to the ACT and Federal government is an asset that can't be denied. It's always great to have a club here from that viewpoint," he added. 

And with no professional sports franchise based in nation’s capital in summer, the A-League is the missing ingredient for sports fans in the ACT and proponents of the new stadium. 

It's estimated the time to build such a stadium would be similar to the timeline taken to construct the new BankWest Stadium in Parramatta. 

“We’re a bit of a dream maker in that we’re working with the Canberra Raiders [NRL] and the Brumbies [Union] who are very supportive of what we’re trying to do.

“So we’re all coming together to get this next level stadium up,” Caggiano added.

 

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