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FFA Failure: Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss

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On 12/06/2019 at 7:01 AM, Generator said:

I’m still one of the few people to feel some sympathy for Gallop? He takes hospital pass after hospital pass for the Board, yet more often than not he’s the only one people commenting online want to see fired (as though any other CEO would be different with a Board like the FFA).

Yes, Gallop gets passed a **** sandwich from time to time but as Mack said, he is paid 1.3m a year to make the FFA run smoothly. If the Board made a compromised decision (which he knows - refer to the article about him and Stajcic talking about the new Board), then he needs to do his job and smooth things over and not just pass the message on. 

If his job is just to pass the message on, then I don't think he should be paid 1.3m.

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On 12/06/2019 at 9:26 AM, mack said:

1) That's his job.

2) If he didn't like it he should have quit.

3) He is part of the reason these issues exist in the first place with his poor governance.

4) He gets paid millions to do it.

Some truths in there;

1) It is his job

2) agree

3) The Board is the governance not the CEO, he simply follows the instructions of the Board

4) he does, in lieu of having his career placed in ruin by the Board he gets paid handsomely to try to smooth it all over as well as sacrifice any future earnings due to being perceived as a poor administrator.

 

I don't like Gallop, never have, he is not a football person, but at the moment we have Gallop (Lawyer) being led by a Political strategist, 2 investment bankers, a gender equality specialist, an equity banker and another Lawyer to determine the future of Football in this country, they then call on football people to provide advice on how to run the game.  Now surely we should have a Board made up of Football people who call on advice from bankers, lawyers, diversity specialists etc to run the game rather than this ****ed up upside down world we currently have.  If Gallop was sacked tomorrow and the same Board remained there would be no change, if the Board was sacked tomorrow Gallop or no Gallop we would be in a much better position.

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2 hours ago, MistahCampoy said:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/foster-renews-calls-for-independent-review-into-stajcic-saga-20190612-p51x0z.html

We will see what transpires after the WC but an independent review must be done for the better of Australian football as a whole

 

Lol, they are going to investigate themselves. Absolutely certain to be impartial. Not.

And looks as though they already have three fall guys. No mention of Heather Reid and her part in all this.

 

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-seeks-independent-review-into-stajcic-sacking-from-matildas-20190613-p51xj2.html

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On 13/06/2019 at 9:26 AM, scarcev said:

Some truths in there;

1) It is his job

2) agree

3) The Board is the governance not the CEO, he simply follows the instructions of the Board

4) he does, in lieu of having his career placed in ruin by the Board he gets paid handsomely to try to smooth it all over as well as sacrifice any future earnings due to being perceived as a poor administrator.

 

I don't like Gallop, never have, he is not a football person, but at the moment we have Gallop (Lawyer) being led by a Political strategist, 2 investment bankers, a gender equality specialist, an equity banker and another Lawyer to determine the future of Football in this country, they then call on football people to provide advice on how to run the game.  Now surely we should have a Board made up of Football people who call on advice from bankers, lawyers, diversity specialists etc to run the game rather than this ****ed up upside down world we currently have.  If Gallop was sacked tomorrow and the same Board remained there would be no change, if the Board was sacked tomorrow Gallop or no Gallop we would be in a much better position.

The desire to have football people on the Board of a $140m pa business would be fine if we had football people with the requisite qualifications, expertise and experience as Board members.  It appears that these people don't exist at the moment or can't or don't want to be found.  The last thing we want to see happening is the development of a class of people called football politicians running the business of football.  I shudder at the thought of populists like Forster ever getting voted in.

FIFA's representative democracy is a flawed model when it comes to having to run a cash poor business but the one thing they do get right is for the football experts to be on the committees advising the Board and running stuff that is delegated to them by the Board with the Board being responsible for strategy, compliance etc.

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Gallop is one of the worst public speakers for someone of his position and experience. It’s like listening to a nervous teenager give a speech in class. There’s no dominance or conviction in his tone and that dummy spit he had at the press conference about the Stajcic sacking was laughable.

You cannot tell me that of the 1.8m registered players and countless other football fans in this country that there is not a single person or collective of professionals that could run the FFA.

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34 minutes ago, hughsey said:

Gallop is one of the worst public speakers for someone of his position and experience. It’s like listening to a nervous teenager give a speech in class. There’s no dominance or conviction in his tone and that dummy spit he had at the press conference about the Stajcic sacking was laughable.

You cannot tell me that of the 1.8m registered players and countless other football fans in this country that there is not a single person or collective of professionals that could run the FFA.

Of the 1.852m participants 28% are registered players and about 25% are adults.  Of the adults how many have the qualifications, expertise and experience to be a director of a $140m pa Company limited by guarantee?  How many have the time over and above their normal work to commit to Board business and participation in a couple of committees?  How many have the personal resources to be able to commit this time gratis as the position carries no salary? How many are prepared to put their professional reputation at risk by taking on directorship of an organisation that has a 60 year history of division and internal politics where almost everyone thinks that they know what's best and management and the board know nothing?  Of those left, how many have a deep love of the game?  There has only been a few over the last 60 years but eventually they have been kneecapped.

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Allow individuals to serve a max of 2 x 3 year terms on the board & that will attract a better caliber & range of candidate

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48 minutes ago, Taurus said:

Allow individuals to serve a max of 2 x 3 year terms on the board & that will attract a better caliber & range of candidate

Good call.

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On Offsiders, Catherine Murphy gives it to David Gallop for putting the Matilda's under the proverbial bus.

Can only hope Chris Nikou and his cronies have watched or heard about it.

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22 hours ago, Flytox said:

Of the 1.852m participants 28% are registered players and about 25% are adults.  Of the adults how many have the qualifications, expertise and experience to be a director of a $140m pa Company limited by guarantee?  How many have the time over and above their normal work to commit to Board business and participation in a couple of committees?  How many have the personal resources to be able to commit this time gratis as the position carries no salary? How many are prepared to put their professional reputation at risk by taking on directorship of an organisation that has a 60 year history of division and internal politics where almost everyone thinks that they know what's best and management and the board know nothing?  Of those left, how many have a deep love of the game?  There has only been a few over the last 60 years but eventually they have been kneecapped.

I think that's the heart of the problem. Anyone remotely capable isn't going to touch this pile of shite of our admin. 

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On 16/06/2019 at 10:27 AM, Flytox said:

Of the 1.852m participants 28% are registered players and about 25% are adults.  Of the adults how many have the qualifications, expertise and experience to be a director of a $140m pa Company limited by guarantee?  How many have the time over and above their normal work to commit to Board business and participation in a couple of committees?  How many have the personal resources to be able to commit this time gratis as the position carries no salary? How many are prepared to put their professional reputation at risk by taking on directorship of an organisation that has a 60 year history of division and internal politics where almost everyone thinks that they know what's best and management and the board know nothing?  Of those left, how many have a deep love of the game?  There has only been a few over the last 60 years but eventually they have been kneecapped.

Regardless of everything else, there's the main problem.

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Soccer stoppage time Twitter on fire tonight. Mack already re-tweeted the one about the shouting match between Gallop and Michael lynch.

Apparently Gallop is slashing national team budget to $0 whilst funding the Heather Reid tour to France and not cutting his own salary.

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On 16/06/2019 at 10:27 AM, Flytox said:

Of the 1.852m participants 28% are registered players and about 25% are adults.  Of the adults how many have the qualifications, expertise and experience to be a director of a $140m pa Company limited by guarantee?  How many have the time over and above their normal work to commit to Board business and participation in a couple of committees?  How many have the personal resources to be able to commit this time gratis as the position carries no salary? How many are prepared to put their professional reputation at risk by taking on directorship of an organisation that has a 60 year history of division and internal politics where almost everyone thinks that they know what's best and management and the board know nothing?  Of those left, how many have a deep love of the game?  There has only been a few over the last 60 years but eventually they have been kneecapped.

The board don't get paid??

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They don't get paid because it means they can keep low born plebs out of the administration of football.

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3 hours ago, Unlimited said:

The board don't get paid??

The Constitution says that they are not to be paid for their services as a director.

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2 hours ago, mack said:

They don't get paid because it means they can keep low born plebs out of the administration of football.

It's fairly normal that directors of Not for Profit organisations don't get paid.

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1 hour ago, Flytox said:

It's fairly normal that directors of Not for Profit organisations don't get paid.

Their reasonable travelling expenses, etc would be covered, but they're basically doing it for love

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4 hours ago, Taurus said:

Their reasonable travelling expenses, etc would be covered, but they're basically doing it for love

First class and 5 star hotels included 

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This could be in another thread but it belongs here because of the lack of lobbying by FFA over years at all levels of government.

'Data doesn't lie': Lack of facilities threatens development of next-gen Matildas http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-21/lack-of-female-soccer-facilities-threatens-development/11228628

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1 hour ago, Paul01 said:

This could be in another thread but it belongs here because of the lack of lobbying by FFA over years at all levels of government.

'Data doesn't lie': Lack of facilities threatens development of next-gen Matildas http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-21/lack-of-female-soccer-facilities-threatens-development/11228628

The FFA Member Federation Charter spells out the respective roles of the State Feds and the FFA in approaches to Government at all levels.  Schedule 7 of the Charter is quoted at the end of this post.

As a result of the Charter and the WC bid in 2010 there has been an ongoing process initiated by the FFA of assessing facility needs and approaches to Governments for funding.  The article you linked is part of FV's strategy to increase funding specifically for women's football having already achieved in excess of $100m of funding from the Victorian Government for facilities creation and improvement in Victoria.  Each State Fed has been going through the process at the FFA's request and are at varying stages in their approaches to Government but from the data obtained by the States the FFA has advised the Federal Government of the need for over $500m in investment in football infrastructure nationally.  Lets hope that the level of funding obtained so far in Victoria is replicated in all states and the $500m is exceeded.

 

Schedule 7 – Government

1 GOVERNMENT

  1. 1.1  FFA and the Member Federations each acknowledge that interaction with government at all levels is a regular and important element of the work that the Member Federations undertake in their capacity as state governing bodies and that FFA undertakes in its capacity as national governing body.

  2. 1.2  Particularly in respect of major government decisions and support relating to football and to maximise the benefits that may flow to football from such decisions, FFA and the Member Federations acknowledge it is important that football governing bodies to the greatest extent possible present a consistent face to government whilst recognising that there may be issues of differing significance at local and national levels.

  3. 1.3  To this end FFA and the Member Federations agree to use reasonable endeavours to keep each other informed of any significant dealings with government particularly in relation to government support to:

    (a) hold any major event;
    (b) fund any football development;
    (c) fund any infrastructure development; or (d) acquire any significant asset.

  4. 1.4  Each Member Federation agrees that any request that it makes for government assistance will be consistent with its obligations under this Charter, including its obligations in connection with the implementation of the strategies, policies and regulations of FFA.

  5. 1.5  Each Member Federation agrees that it will give good faith consideration to any request that FFA makes in connection with any request that it wishes to make for government assistance that falls within clause 1.3.

  6. 1.6  FFA agrees that it will give good faith consideration to providing appropriate advocacy support to a Member Federation in respect of requests it may make for government assistance.

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2 hours ago, Paul01 said:

This could be in another thread but it belongs here because of the lack of lobbying by FFA over years at all levels of government.

'Data doesn't lie': Lack of facilities threatens development of next-gen Matildas http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-21/lack-of-female-soccer-facilities-threatens-development/11228628

It's ridiculous the FFA are not able to get more from the Government given the participant numbers:

 

Females playing organised field sport

  • Football — 400,000
  • AFL — 177,000
  • Rugby league — 43,000
  • Rugby union — 34,000
  • Cricket — 90,000

Source: AusPlay survey 2018

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