Hughesy Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I can’t help but wonder if allowing VAR to be scrapped has anything to do with the financial fall out from coronavirus. The NRL bunker has been cut to save roughly $2m a season so you’d have to wonder how much a VAR system costs football leagues to install and operate. Makes sense as a means of cost cutting. Link to comment
marron Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 MistahCampoy, WSWJACK, sonar and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Burgerman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 hours ago, sonar said: He knew FFTP would be the opening up of high quality streaming to everyone and it threatened his business model of being top dog.I have no sympathy for his company(s). All he's done is just delayed the inevitable. The majority of Aus wanted fast,world class fibre. So he got his Lib mates to screw the NBN. Just pure commercial bastardry. Reap what you sow.. Yeah i don't feel bad for murdoch with him melding in politics rather than integrate with technology. I'm still keeping fox as I'm bored and a bit old school and don't enjoy Internet tv, but inevitably I will upgrade and that would cancel out foxtel. Prydzopolis, EmMac and sonar 3 Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 11/05/2020 at 7:01 PM, tardotz said: FIFA gives A-League its blessing to get rid of hated VAR https://www.sbs.com.au/fifa-gives-a-league-its-blessing-to-get-rid-of-hated-var?cid=twgapp:socialshare:other I don’t know, the scrapping is a bit much, more like shelved for the remainder of the season. On 11/05/2020 at 9:42 PM, hughsey said: I can’t help but wonder if allowing VAR to be scrapped has anything to do with the financial fall out from coronavirus The main reason it was scrapped was so they didn’t need 3-5 people in the VAR box. Much of the costs associated with the VAR are fixed, the software, hardware for the room & you won’t be saving much (just wages). I guess when you’ve got Fox looking to halve the current contract, I guess you need to make all the savings you can! sonar 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Edited May 12, 2020 by sonar Prydzopolis and papersun 1 1 Link to comment
mack Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 "One Nation type reader" sounds like an oxymoron. StringerBellend, sonar, papersun and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
MathyouWSW Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 This is f*cked up: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11605343/turkish-footballer-cevher-toktas-murder-arrested-smother-son-hospital/ Prydzopolis and sonar 2 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Probably the wrong thread, but here goes https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/south-korea-japan-showing-way-forward-for-media-production-in-asia MistahCampoy and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
Hughesy Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Edinburgh said: Probably the wrong thread, but here goes https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/south-korea-japan-showing-way-forward-for-media-production-in-asia The way of the future. Fox cant afford to pay huge lump sums anymore so to me it's a no brainer. Plus it gives control to the actual league rather than being a slave to networks Prydzopolis, MistahCampoy and Edinburgh 3 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 11 hours ago, hughsey said: The way of the future. Fox cant afford to pay huge lump sums anymore so to me it's a no brainer. Plus it gives control to the actual league rather than being a slave to networks Doesn't appear to be expensive either. Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Edinburgh said: Doesn't appear to be expensive either. I’d say it would be a significant outlay, not just the game to game production costs but establishing the production home. This is at a time where Fox looking to cut the tv deal & no other apparent way to fund it. Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Prydzopolis said: I’d say it would be a significant outlay, not just the game to game production costs but establishing the production home. This is at a time where Fox looking to cut the tv deal & no other apparent way to fund it. The article mentions a cost of $1.3m to set it up, which is what I was referring to. But that's only for the in/out control centre. The production/filming costs are on top of that. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Hughesy Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 $12m for an entire aleague season doesn’t seem overly expensive, though I don’t know what the benchmark cost is Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) I'm wondering whether stadiums will/can provide their own hd broadcast remote control cameras, permanently mounted around the stadiums. They have them in the stadiums for crowd control why not for broadcasting. You can already control cameras remotely . Why not go the extra mile and pre-install in stadiums. Every one wins. Edited May 30, 2020 by sonar Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
mack Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Broadcast level cameras setups cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (much of which is in the main lens). I'm not sure any of the Governments that own these stadiums would go for it. I definitely think whatever happens with this Fox Sports contract, that the FFA, Independent A-League & even the NPL clubs are going to have to work out a minimally acceptable and cheap setup. If you look at the various NPL stream broadcasts, many of them are basically unwatchable (zooming & focus issues, low frame rates) and the camera operators aren't exactly world class. But even those minimal setups cost a lot to setup. Not to mention that a heavily cut down contract in the A-League deal (or going fully independent with no Fox Sports) is going to mean games getting played at suburban grounds with sub-optimal lightning or internet making streaming an issue. It's a huge problem to solve. sonar and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, mack said: Broadcast level cameras setups cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (much of which is in the main lens). I'm not sure any of the Governments that own these stadiums would go for it. I definitely think whatever happens with this Fox Sports contract, that the FFA, Independent A-League & even the NPL clubs are going to have to work out a minimally acceptable and cheap setup. If you look at the various NPL stream broadcasts, many of them are basically unwatchable (zooming & focus issues, low frame rates) and the camera operators aren't exactly world class. But even those minimal setups cost a lot to setup. Not to mention that a contract in the A-League deal (or going fully independent with no Fox Sports) is going to mean games getting played at suburban grounds with sub-optimal lightning or internet making streaming an issue. It's a huge problem to solve. Interesting vid. For what I was talking about ( football stadia compared to say motor racing etc ) you most probably wouldn't need the exact lens as shown. The way technology is going what is expensive now may well be smaller and cheaper in 5 or so years. What we need is to find a billionare club owner with their own football facility and a spare $20m who is willing to do a bit of r & d ...... Edited May 30, 2020 by sonar Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Burgerman Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 hours ago, sonar said: I'm wondering whether stadiums will/can provide their own hd broadcast remote control cameras, permanently mounted around the stadiums. They have them in the stadiums for crowd control why not for broadcasting. You can already control cameras remotely . Why not go the extra mile and pre-install in stadiums. Every one wins. It's funny you mention this today in a nrl game the commentary of fox pundits was calling for sponsorship for a high view camera as foxtel can't afford it anymore hahaha how low will foxtel go getting Commentators to sell it live during a game. This camera was wired fixed like a spider cam and did provide a good sideline view. Prydzopolis, sonar and wendybr 3 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, Burgerman said: It's funny you mention this today in a nrl game the commentary of fox pundits was calling for sponsorship for a high view camera as foxtel can't afford it anymore hahaha how low will foxtel go getting Commentators to sell it live during a game. This camera was wired fixed like a spider cam and did provide a good sideline view. Foxtel ( News Ltd ) will never surprise with how low they will go. It's their business modus operandi. Paul01, Prydzopolis and Burgerman 1 2 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 It may be headlined with NRL but buried in there is Fox Sports and FFA https://www.smh.com.au/sport/it-s-fanciful-to-think-everybody-on-earth-is-watching-the-nrl-20200529-p54xs8.html wendybr and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
Wanderboy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 So, Rugby has struck a deal with Fox. FFA, Where are you? https://t.co/3yxw8UFrga?amp=1 Prydzopolis and Paul01 1 1 Link to comment
mack Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if Fox just can us entirely. They already massively killed their football audience by lowballing the EPL and losing it. tardotz 1 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Wanderboy said: So, Rugby has struck a deal with Fox. FFA, Where are you? https://t.co/3yxw8UFrga?amp=1 See a Private Equity firm is about to invest in Rugby The sport of the Lexus driver will be fine, there is always some private school old boy to bail them out Wanderboy 1 Link to comment
THEWANDERERSPOST Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Trialist is putting forward a legal case against the Mariners. https://www.theage.com.au/business/workplace/young-soccer-player-settles-legal-case-after-months-of-unpaid-trial-20200610-p5519z.html Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
papersun Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 There was a rumour going round on Twitter today that News Ltd has sacked three of its Oz football journalists Came from ZenithSem I think, not sure how true it is. Link to comment
MartinTyler Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Tom Smithies gone....his own decision he says mack 1 Link to comment
mack Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 He should cut out the middleman and just get a job writing articles for Sydney FC. Prydzopolis, StringerBellend, alexd and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, mack said: He should cut out the middleman and just get a job writing articles for Sydney FC. Rather see Bossi do that and Smithies to SMH Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
papersun Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 18 hours ago, papersun said: There was a rumour going round on Twitter today that News Ltd has sacked three of its Oz football journalists Came from ZenithSem I think, not sure how true it is. Seems like this rumour is likely to be true. One gone already, Ray Gatt thinks more to come and a deliberate attempt to bring the game down. Not the greatest of times for the game at the moment. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Generator Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) It’s da pandemic, I tellz ya! It’s all part of the plan to bring down football in Australia. Got to love the conspiracy nuts. That other sports will act to protect their interests is a given, but to believe there’s a grand plan to destroy local interest in the global game is a bit daft. Edited June 12, 2020 by Generator Prydzopolis and wendybr 2 Link to comment
mack Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 Channel 7 and AFL once conspired to help kill the NSL, why would 15 years change things in the Australian media landscape? StringerBellend, Edinburgh, Prydzopolis and 2 others 5 Link to comment
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