International Current Affairs (#BidenIn)

[StringerBellend]

2 hours ago, MartinTyler said:

How ironic that she announced it on Twitter !!

Can she take Wendy’s mate with her 

[marron]

Too important to the revenue stream I should imagine.

I bet all those capitol stormers stand up straight and have tidy rooms though.

Edited January 11 by marron

[sonar]

The airline unions that covers flight staff including pilots in the us told their companies that if they knew of anyone involved in entering the capitol building were on their flights they would refuse to fly the planes or work on them. Anyone involved is now being either denied access to a plane or removed from them. They are now one a #noflylist and will remain so until cleared by authorities. There are some very upset MAGA T'S at the minute all crying about having their democracy taken away....lol

 

[sonar]

Lol.....

https://cybernews.com/news/70tb-of-parler-users-messages-videos-and-posts-leaked-by-security-researchers/

Security researchers claim that the scrapped posts are linked to accounts that posted them, and some of the video and image data have geolocation information. That is said also to include data from Parler’s “Verified Citizens,” users of the network who verified their identity by uploading photographs of government-issued IDs, such as a driver’s license. 

.......to be passed on to FBI and DoJ.....lol

Edited January 11 by sonar

[wendybr]

The US Capitol riot was full of hate symbols. Here's how to spot them
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-12/washington-capitol-hate-symbols-race-riots-trump-antisemitism/13048516

[marron]

41 minutes ago, wendybr said:

The US Capitol riot was full of hate symbols. Here's how to spot them
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-12/washington-capitol-hate-symbols-race-riots-trump-antisemitism/13048516

A more challenging thing to spot symbols that weren't hate symbols isn't it?

I suppose the blue line flags are arguably not hate symbols but then they killed some cops, and the failure means that the blue lives matter thing has been dropped now so.

Edited January 12 by marron

[sonar]

This was 4 years ago and goes a bit of the way to explaining how Trump......especially in the rust belt got elected......

 

 

[marron]

Saw a good article yesterday from 2017 breaking down where trumps votes came from, and how the idea it's all these poor white trash types is flat out wrong.

[sonar]

7 minutes ago, marron said:

Saw a good article yesterday from 2017 breaking down where trumps votes came from, and how the idea it's all these poor white trash types is flat out wrong.

I meant more about the rhetoric employed. Make America Great Again. I'll bring the jobs back.  It's bullshit of course. A lot of people drunk the kool aid.

[marron]

 

 

 

[btron3000]

The Trumpists are deserting the sinking ship, trying to claim he wasn't like this during the last 4 years and it's only now that he's crossed the mark, when we all could see it coming a mile away.

Impeach the clown so he can't run again, throw his arse in the clink afterwards.

But I think there are bigger problems here.

1. The Republicans that sided with him until now, who aren't deranged like him but saw it as a way to keep themselves in power and hold down the rise of any sort of equality, whether that be race, sex, or - most particularly - wealth and power. So many people in charge will do whatever it takes to keep their privileged life.

2. The way that his followers have been manipulated. And how dangerous social media is. 1984 stuff, just re-writing history live as it happens through disinformation. And we're all susceptible. 

3. Let's say Trump doesn't screw up the pandemic. He probably gets back in. Then you have a deranded lunatic who was systematically removing anyone who didn't agree with him from any positions of authority, and was going through and corrupting all the systems he could. It's possible that the US could have voted in a dude who would become a dictator in all but name. Someone else out there is probably looking at all the mistakes he made and thinking "this could be done".

[btron3000]

By the way, where is Legia? 

[wendybr]

^^^Hasn't been around for aaages, but I hear he's doing OK.

 

Nice see you pay us a visit, Btron!

 

[StringerBellend]

9 hours ago, wendybr said:

^^^Hasn't been around for aaages, but I hear he's doing OK.

 

Nice see you pay us a visit, Btron!

 

Where is Judith Durham?

[sonar]

 

[Carns]

Senior Republicans (including Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick, and the 3rd highest ranking Republican in the House of Reps) have said they'll vote to impeach Trump. This is a big deal because it basically shows that the Republican establishment (people like the Cheney's, Bush's etc) who held the power before Trump took control are willing to vote against him to take the power back in the party. Apparently even Mitch McConnell has said he believes Trump's conduct was impeachable. The rats are deserting the ship at an incredible rate and it might mean he's actually impeached (the first President for it to occur to) and will most likely also be barred from running again (plus losing pension, Secret Service protection etc. etc.). It's a massive deal if it happens.

Also, I'm following the ABC News blog about it all and they just posted this refresher of what has happened in the last 7 days.

• Two Democrats win the Georgia run-off races
• A massive rally and protest from Trump supporters in Washington DC
• An unprecedented attack on Capitol Building in Washington DC
• Congress finalising Joe Biden's win by counting the votes of the electoral college
• Twitter deleting Donald Trump's account (and other social media banning or suspending him)
• Calls for the 25th amendment to be invoked
• Donald Trump publicly acknowledging the result of the November election for the first time
• The beginnings of the second impeachment of Donald Trump
• Senior Republicans calling for Donald Trump to be removed from office

2021 sure has had a slow start in the US of A!

The FBI is also warning that there is strong potential for armed protests leading up to the Inauguration not only in Washington but in all states. Gonna be a crazy few weeks ahead.

[sonar]

3 minutes ago, Carns said:

Senior Republicans (including Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick, and the 3rd highest ranking Republican in the House of Reps) have said they'll vote to impeach Trump. This is a big deal because it basically shows that the Republican establishment (people like the Cheney's, Bush's etc) who held the power before Trump took control are willing to vote against him to take the power back in the party. Apparently even Mitch McConnell has said he believes Trump's conduct was impeachable. The rats are deserting the ship at an incredible rate and it might mean he's actually impeached (the first President for it to occur to) and will most likely also be barred from running again (plus losing pension, Secret Service protection etc. etc.). It's a massive deal if it happens.

Also, I'm following the ABC News blog about it all and they just posted this refresher of what has happened in the last 7 days.

• Two Democrats win the Georgia run-off races
• A massive rally and protest from Trump supporters in Washington DC
• An unprecedented attack on Capitol Building in Washington DC
• Congress finalising Joe Biden's win by counting the votes of the electoral college
• Twitter deleting Donald Trump's account (and other social media banning or suspending him)
• Calls for the 25th amendment to be invoked
• Donald Trump publicly acknowledging the result of the November election for the first time
• The beginnings of the second impeachment of Donald Trump
• Senior Republicans calling for Donald Trump to be removed from office

2021 sure has had a slow start in the US of A!

The FBI is also warning that there is strong potential for armed protests leading up to the Inauguration not only in Washington but in all states. Gonna be a crazy few weeks ahead.

Someone in the US has suggested for them 2021 doesn't officially start till Biden is Inaugerated.....as he says it......on the 51st of Dec 2020,...."my New will start with Trump gone....not before." 

[EmMac]

6 hours ago, sonar said:

 

That was really good analysis 

[EmMac]

A gamers perspective of the lure of QAnon

This is IMO, a pretty darn good analysis

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

 

[Ossified]

Getting the executions in before the inauguration. Mentally ill woman.

A Kansas woman was executed early on Wednesday, the first time in nearly seven decades that the US government has put to death a female inmate.

Lisa Montgomery, 52, was pronounced dead at 1.31am after receiving a lethal injection at the federal prison complex in Terre Haute, Indiana. She was the 11th prisoner to receive a lethal injection there since July when Donald Trump, an ardent supporter of capital punishment, resumed federal executions after a 17-year hiatus.

“The craven bloodlust of a failed administration was on full display tonight,” Montgomery’s attorney, Kelley Henry said in a statement. “Everyone who participated in the execution of Lisa Montgomery should feel shame.”

“The government stopped at nothing in its zeal to kill this damaged and delusional woman,” Henry said. “Lisa Montgomery’s execution was far from justice.”

[Cynth]

1 hour ago, EmMac said:

A gamers perspective of the lure of QAnon

This is IMO, a pretty darn good analysis

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

 

That’s was an interesting take, very knowledgeable author. 

[wendybr]

2 hours ago, EmMac said:

A gamers perspective of the lure of QAnon

This is IMO, a pretty darn good analysis

https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5

 

 

24 minutes ago, Cynth said:

That’s was an interesting take, very knowledgeable author. 

Was just going to say the same.

Thanks for posting Em.  

[Paul01]

And the Trump family is being cut off at the knees

New York City joins PGA, major banks in cutting ties with Trump Organization after Capitol riot http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-14/nyc-pga-businesses-cut-ties-with-donald-trump/13056084

[Davo]

Trump impeached again. 10 House Republicans crossed the floor to vote with Democrats.

[sonar]

 

[Sithslayer1991]

23 minutes ago, Davo said:

Trump impeached again. 10 House Republicans crossed the floor to vote with Democrats.

It will probably pass through the senate this time because the old powers (Bush and Cheney) are pushing to get back against Trump to stop him comming back to take control of the party again.

[Carns]

Depends on when the trial happens. Lots of talk that they may wait 100 days into Biden's presidency to do it. That gives Biden time to pass Covid relief and other urgent action they want to take and doesn't muddy the waters whilst he's getting his cabinet sworn in etc. Dems control the House of Reps and decide when it goes to the Senate (currently Rep controlled).

If they wait 100 days they still need a 2/3rds majority for Trump to be convicted. The Senate will be 50/50 Dems/Reps with the incoming VP Kamala Harris having the deciding vote. It means they still need 17 Republicans to cross the floor in the Senate and find him guilty. A lot could happen between now and then but given 10 Reps voted today to impeach (which has never happened before) there may be a precedent for 17 Reps to cross.

[sonar]

As time goes by and with FBI and other agencies still doing a lot of investigations about the origins of the coup attempt and who was involved, the Democrats will have a lot more evidence on which to present.

This ( the riot) was planned by either the president or he was complicit in allowing others to do so and I firmly believe this will come out. As they say.....watch this space.

I also believe there will be many Republicans who want him gone and in prison.....not from any sense of justice but they want the MAGA votes and money.

[marron]

1 hour ago, sonar said:

As time goes by and with FBI and other agencies still doing a lot of investigations about the origins of the coup attempt and who was involved, the Democrats will have a lot more evidence on which to present.

This ( the riot) was planned by either the president or he was complicit in allowing others to do so and I firmly believe this will come out. As they say.....watch this space.

I also believe there will be many Republicans who want him gone and in prison.....not from any sense of justice but they want the MAGA votes and money.

If they drop him in it though they lose the MAGA votes.

 

You've basically got two wings of the republicans now - the one that will stick to the checks and balances and the one that won't. The first one is now happy to lose the MAGA votes but it will be interesting to see how many of them there are. The others are absolutely fine with taking power any way they can. Both are well aware they haven't had the popular vote for years.

[wendybr]

1 hour ago, marron said:

If they drop him in it though they lose the MAGA votes.

 

You've basically got two wings of the republicans now - the one that will stick to the checks and balances and the one that won't. The first one is now happy to lose the MAGA votes but it will be interesting to see how many of them there are. The others are absolutely fine with taking power any way they can. Both are well aware they haven't had the popular vote for years.

Am I right in thinking he can't run again if the impeachment process goes against him?

And if so, who does MAGA unite behind, if Trump is out of the picture?