StringerBellend Posted November 30 (edited) 24 minutes ago, wendybr said: Lol. He probably doesn't think any differently, even tho he said it 20+ yeasrs ago. His policies suggest he hasn’t changed his mind, but oh bless him he has a funny hair cut and says funny things, which seems enough to get votes these days article might be old, but it is probably a better window into his soul (or lack of) than what he will say now The justification of it gets me, dismissed as it’s old. the support for those populist figures, surely at some level they know that they know in the event of a fire they wouldn’t piss on them unless there was a vote in it Edited November 30 by StringerBellend 1 EmMac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 2 hours ago, StringerBellend said: Do you think his opinion of working class people has changed that much? Maybe he has had some sort of epiphany? Do you still think in the same way you did 20 yrs ago? It’s a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pseudonym Posted November 30 2 hours ago, wendybr said: Lol. He probably doesn't think any differently, even tho he said it 20+ yeasrs ago. He probably didn't think he would ever be Prime Minister 20 years ago through twists and turns he ended up in the job 2 EmMac and wendybr reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StringerBellend Posted November 30 12 minutes ago, Bones said: Do you still think in the same way you did 20 yrs ago? It’s a long time. Fair point, No, not about all things my mind changes as you experience new things, as information comes in... but not sure my core values have shifted that much Im sure, BoJo has changed his mind on somethings, he has on Brexit multiple times, hey if there is a vote in it he’ll change his mind. But Im doubting BoJos core values have shifted that much, the article shows he didn’t care much for working class and he sneered at those worse of than himself or from different social classes. Do you think he’s changed their at his core? Really? He’s a bullingdon club, upper class twit, who’s in it for himself he was 20 years ago and he is now 2 1 wendybr, EmMac and Bones reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wendybr Posted November 30 19 minutes ago, Bones said: Do you still think in the same way you did 20 yrs ago? It’s a long time. Core values persist, generally. Arrogance and elitist attitudes are probably fairly ingrained... His background would have reinforced it I imagine ( not that know or can bear the thought of finding out anthing about him). 2 EmMac and StringerBellend reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StringerBellend Posted November 30 2 minutes ago, pseudonym said: He probably didn't think he would ever be Prime Minister 20 years ago through twists and turns he ended up in the job No He did, the born to rule Bullingdon Club Mofo Boris Johnson, Prime Minister (2019–present), Foreign Secretary (2016–2018) and Mayor of London (2008–2016)[61] Jeremy Hunt, Foreign Secretary (2018–2019), Health Secretary (2012–2018) and Culture Secretary (2010–2012)[62][63] David Cameron, Prime Minister (2010–2016)[61] Cecil Rhodes, Prime Minister of the Cape Colony (1890–1896)[16] Michael Ancram, Chairman of the Conservative Party (1998–2001)[64] Charles Douglas-Home, 12th Earl of Home, Lord Lieutenant of Lanarkshire (1890–1915) and Lord Lieutenant of Berwickshire (1879–1880) Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Grey of Fallodon, Foreign Secretary (1905–1916) Lord Halifax, Chancellor of the University of Oxford (1933–1959), Ambassador to the United States (1940–1946) Foreign Secretary (1938–1940), Leader of the House of Lords (1935–1938, 1940), Secretary of State for War (1935) and 20th Viceroy of India (1926–1931) George Osborne, First Secretary of State(2015–2016) and Chancellor of the Exchequer (2010–2016)[61] Lord Randolph Churchill,[65] Chancellor of the Exchequer (1886) John Profumo, CBE, Secretary of State for War (1960–1963) Radosław Sikorski, Minister of Foreign Affairsof Poland (2007–2014)[66] Alan Clark, Minister for Defence Procurement(1989–1992) Thomas Agar-Robartes, MP (1906, 1908–1915)[67] Nick Hurd, Government Minister (2010–2019)[68] Jo Johnson, Government Minister (2014–2019) and Director of the Number 10 Policy Unit (2013–2015) Tim Rathbone, MP (1974–1997)[29] Thomas Assheton Smith the Younger, High Sheriff of Wiltshire (1838) and MP (1821–1831, 1832–1837)[3] Sir Ewen Fergusson, British Ambassador to France (1987–1992) and British Ambassador to South Africa (1982–1984)[69] Sir Hugh Munro-Lucas-Tooth, MP (1924–1929, 1945–1970) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StringerBellend Posted November 30 22 minutes ago, Bones said: Do you still think in the same way you did 20 yrs ago? It’s a long time. Do you think he doesn’t? really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 Now they’re praising Trump, The world’s coming to it’s senses 😃 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/11/29/hong-kong-protestors-wave-swole-trump-posters-thanksgiving-rally/ 1 wendybr reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinTyler Posted November 30 44 minutes ago, Bones said: Now they’re praising Trump, The world’s coming to it’s senses 😃 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/11/29/hong-kong-protestors-wave-swole-trump-posters-thanksgiving-rally/ Big Deal...so he's signed a bit of paper...but what exactly does it mean and will it change the HK situation? Methinks not. I guess he could try a trade war.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wendybr Posted November 30 1 hour ago, StringerBellend said: Sir Hugh Munro-Lucas-Tooth, MP (1924–1929, 1945–1970) Had to lol at this guy's name. And that above isn't even his full name! Check it out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wendybr Posted November 30 I've posted this too many times before...but it has to be done again. 2 1 MartinTyler, mack and Bones reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 2 hours ago, wendybr said: Core values persist, generally. Arrogance and elitist attitudes are probably fairly ingrained... His background would have reinforced it I imagine ( not that know or can bear the thought of finding out anthing about him). If Ebenezer Scrooge can change I believe anyone can 😀 1 wendybr reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carns Posted November 30 2 hours ago, Bones said: Now they’re praising Trump, The world’s coming to it’s senses 😃 Everyone knows the only way to get Trump to pay attention to anything is to massage his ego. Hong Kongans believe the US is the only country with enough power that can "stand up" to China. It would be no different if it were Obama, or Bush in charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, MartinTyler said: Big Deal...so he's signed a bit of paper...but what exactly does it mean and will it change the HK situation? Methinks not. I guess he could try a trade war.... Pretty sure the article gave a rundown on what it means. Trump signs a lot of papers and being one of the most powerful gentlemen in the world it probably means a lot. People in Hong Kong seem happy about it and it affects them so that’s a good thing. Edited November 30 by Bones Gangsta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 5 minutes ago, Carns said: Everyone knows the only way to get Trump to pay attention to anything is to massage his ego. Hong Kongans believe the US is the only country with enough power that can "stand up" to China. It would be no different if it were Obama, or Bush in charge. That’s a presumption, Trump has acted and rightfully so. Bravo Mr Trump. 2 Carns and MartinTyler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 3 hours ago, StringerBellend said: Do you think he doesn’t? really I don’t think any human does regardless of who they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinTyler Posted November 30 35 minutes ago, Bones said: That’s a presumption, Trump has acted and rightfully so. Bravo Mr Trump. Yeah but what's he actually going to do to significantly ease the situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 (edited) 🌭 hotdogs are cool Edited November 30 by Bones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 11 minutes ago, MartinTyler said: Yeah but what's he actually going to do to significantly ease the situation? You could just click on the link I posted and read for yourself, but basically he’s standing up to China on behalf of the pro democracy protesters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wendybr Posted November 30 1 hour ago, Bones said: If Ebenezer Scrooge can change I believe anyone can 😀 Ummmmm....lol 1 Bones reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinTyler Posted November 30 41 minutes ago, Bones said: You could just click on the link I posted and read for yourself, but basically he’s standing up to China on behalf of the pro democracy protesters. Complete bullshit...he'll do nothing....let's face it Kim Jong Un does far worse to his own people and he's one of Trump's best buddies. 1 1 sonar and Bones reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted November 30 25 minutes ago, MartinTyler said: Complete bullshit...he'll do nothing....let's face it Kim Jong Un does far worse to his own people and he's one of Trump's best buddies. Ohhh kaaay. No-one else stands up to Kim besides Trump. What do you think Trump should do regarding Hong Kong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StringerBellend Posted December 2 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nhs-doctor-describes-anger-chaos-20972831?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StringerBellend Posted December 2 On 30/11/2019 at 6:41 PM, Bones said: Ohhh kaaay. No-one else stands up to Kim besides Trump. What do you think Trump should do regarding Hong Kong? serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones Posted December 2 (edited) 20 minutes ago, StringerBellend said: serious? Yeah. It was a deflecting point that was posed to me anyway to take away from what he’s done with the Hong Kong situation and wasn’t really relevant, we weren’t talking about Nth Korea. Many nations have imposed sanctions against NK and Japan is pretty vocal against them admittedly. Without US backing though it would all fall flat and Trump is the voice of the US that Jong Un will listen to. Edited December 2 by Bones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cynth Posted December 2 Long but an interesting opinion piece. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/how-america-ends/600757/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legionista Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Cynth said: Long but an interesting opinion piece. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/how-america-ends/600757/ Echhhhh. White people be angry that the world be changing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cynth Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Legionista said: Echhhhh. White people be angry that the world be changing. You think these people don’t exist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Legionista Posted Wednesday at 09:15 AM On 02/12/2019 at 11:08 PM, Cynth said: You think these people don’t exist? I have no doubt they do. 1 wendybr reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites