EmMac Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Cynth said: I have never had any compassion for Assange. To me, he is a political player, it was never about the people’s right to know. Don’t know, I just have a great dislike of him. I was on board early on but i think he allowed his personal views to influence actions. Sometimes bringing down someone leaves the door open for worse. That's what he was part of when he allowed the dump of data that included Hillary Clinton's emails. There was no thought of the ramifications of that action HOWEVER, i do not believe he should be extradited to the US. They cannot be trusted to treat him within humam rights requirements. The fact that the UK govt have been complicit in this extradition attempt is disgusting. Carns, StringerBellend, wendybr and 1 other 4 Link to comment
EmMac Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Cynth said: Except he wasn’t a journalist. I understand the argument of precedent, but the game playing with Russia regarding the US election and emails, that’s not what a journalist would do, that’s not what a whistle blower would do. I get that his earlier work was different but in the end, I believe he is exceptional because he was a simple computer hacker with a superiority complex. I know that’s not a popular opinion but I can’t defend the guy. Yes i have a massive isssue with his links with Russia. Totally agree. However he should not be extradited to the US. They have their own political agenda re Assange wendybr and sonar 2 Link to comment
Cynth Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I thought this was an excellent review of all the disinformation about voter fraud the POTUS is claiming. I think the Georgia state government has shown principles not evident in much of the Republican party. sonar, wendybr, Edinburgh and 1 other 4 Link to comment
EmMac Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I think this article loosely fits in here. Fabulous study and analysis on media bias https://towardsdatascience.com/how-statistically-biased-is-our-news-f28f0fab3cb3 sonar and wendybr 2 Link to comment
Sithslayer1991 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 05/01/2021 at 6:41 AM, EmMac said: However he should not be extradited to the US. They have their own political agenda re Assange This pretty much sums it up for me. He ain't no journalist just to clarify he just provided a platform for whistle blowers to put through documents. He pissed off a lot of powerful people is the best way to sum it up. EmMac and sonar 2 Link to comment
MartinTyler Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Here's my take.....in times of conflict there will be 'classified' information held which is deliberately wrong just in case it get's into enemy hands therefore confusing the enemy....would have happened a lot in WW2 where the allies would have kept 'false' plans to make the Germans believe they were about to attack a certain location rather than the real target. Assuming a similar thing is happening now, how would Assange and his whistle-blowers know which is fact and which is deception? sonar 1 Link to comment
Wobblies Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 WikiLeaks has informed us how illegal wars are fabricated, how governments are overthrown and violence is used in our name, how we are spied upon through our phones and screens. The true lies of presidents, ambassadors, political candidates, generals, proxies, political fraudsters have been exposed. (just ask Chelsea Manning or Edward Snowden) Assange also informed us and exposed the illegal torture and killing of innocent men, women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan and Guantanamo. If you wish all this stuff should be not be known to you or is not in the public interest then that's fine. Sithslayer1991, Unlimited, wendybr and 3 others 6 Link to comment
EmMac Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The New York Times forecast needle for the Georgia run-offs https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html Wobblies and sonar 2 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, EmMac said: The New York Times forecast needle for the Georgia run-offs https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html The Dems looking good....... Republicans have taken a narrow lead in the tabulated vote, but the Democrats are clear favorites in both races for Senate. The overwhelming majority of remaining votes are in the Atlanta metro area, and while the race remains competitive, there's no indication that the Republicans are poised to run more strongly than expected there. wendybr and EmMac 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Ossified said: WikiLeaks has informed us how illegal wars are fabricated, how governments are overthrown and violence is used in our name, how we are spied upon through our phones and screens. The true lies of presidents, ambassadors, political candidates, generals, proxies, political fraudsters have been exposed. (just ask Chelsea Manning or Edward Snowden) Assange also informed us and exposed the illegal torture and killing of innocent men, women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan and Guantanamo. If you wish all this stuff should be not be known to you or is not in the public interest then that's fine. He is a total tit though Cynth, EmMac, sonar and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Wobblies Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, StringerBellend said: He is a total tit though Probably, but let's not be distracted from who he shone a spotlight on and what they get up to...ie our holier than thou elected western governments of both political persuasions and their media cheerleaders. Unlimited, sonar, wendybr and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Carns Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, StringerBellend said: He is a total tit though As Frenzal Rhomb said about David Hicks. "He might be a dickhead, but that doesn't mean he deserved what he got". Wobblies, wendybr, EmMac and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 i feel so sorry for china, they just couldnt quite get the paperwork ready for the investigation team, must be a very embarrassing accident sonar and wendybr 1 1 Link to comment
mack Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 It'll go in the pile with the missing Iraqi WMD. sonar, Neverbloom and wendybr 3 Link to comment
Davo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 CNN have called Warnock as winner and Ossoff is slightly ahead of Perdue with mostly blue leaning counties left to report. Looks like the Dems are taking the senate after the Republicans lose another hundred lawsuits. Cynth, EmMac and wendybr 3 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 DecisionDesk HQ has called both senate races for the Dems. Interestingly Ossof leads Perdue by more than 12K votes which is more than Biden won the state by. EmMac and wendybr 2 Link to comment
Cynth Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 12 hours ago, EmMac said: I think this article loosely fits in here. Fabulous study and analysis on media bias https://towardsdatascience.com/how-statistically-biased-is-our-news-f28f0fab3cb3 This was great! Thanks for posting, I will be passing it on! wendybr, sonar and EmMac 3 Link to comment
Davo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, sonar said: DecisionDesk HQ has called both senate races for the Dems. Interestingly Ossof leads Perdue by more than 12K votes which is more than Biden won the state by. I’m beginning to think Trump telling Republican voters that the election is rigged and the results are invalid wasn’t a good strategy for driving turnout. wendybr, Unlimited, Carns and 2 others 5 Link to comment
wendybr Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 The circus continues... sonar and EmMac 2 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, wendybr said: The circus continues... With the Georgia senate win by the Dems it will be...... "Roll up Roll up......The circus leaves town at noon on Jan 20 2021.........Last chance to see the clown in action. Tickets are free, bring your own popcorn" EmMac 1 Link to comment
Cynth Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 After Pence confirms the electoral votes today, it will be interesting to see what Trump does. Rumour has it he was booked to fly to Scotland on the 19th but Scotland scuttled that. On the 21st he is technically open to prosecution... Hopefully there isn’t too much violence on the streets in the next few days. Link to comment
Paul01 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Cynth said: After Pence confirms the electoral votes today, it will be interesting to see what Trump does. Rumour has it he was booked to fly to Scotland on the 19th but Scotland scuttled that. On the 21st he is technically open to prosecution... Hopefully there isn’t too much violence on the streets in the next few days. Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has said that playing golf is not an essential reason to travel in Scotland. Looks like she has banned the idiot from travelling there. Unlimited and wendybr 1 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 This means Biden is the US President from the 20th January US politics live updates: Donald Trump targets Mike Pence as results from Georgia runoffs still arrive http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/us-politics-live-updates-georgia-results-congress-counts/13037080 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Cynth said: After Pence confirms the electoral votes today, it will be interesting to see what Trump does. Rumour has it he was booked to fly to Scotland on the 19th but Scotland scuttled that. On the 21st he is technically open to prosecution... Hopefully there isn’t too much violence on the streets in the next few days. Well it didn't happen, Trump incites his MAGA followers to this US politics live updates: Donald Trump supporters clash with police, sending US Capitol into lockdown as Congress counts votes http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-07/us-politics-live-updates-georgia-results-congress-counts/13037080 EmMac 1 Link to comment
papersun Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Disgusting what's happening in Washington, that orange loon should be put in handcuffs now. sonar, Cynth, EmMac and 5 others 8 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The power of lies perpetrated by the media and enablers of facism and authoritarianism is on display in Washington. The owners of News Ltd, Newsmax, OAN, QAnon etc need to be chargede with treason and sedition for what they have incited on the behalf of Trump. EmMac, StringerBellend, Neverbloom and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 14 hours ago, mack said: It'll go in the pile with the missing Iraqi WMD. that is true all countries bullshit, just china at the moment does it slightly more than most speaking of bullshit, trump fans have gone rabid, well more rabid than usual wendybr and sonar 2 Link to comment
Davo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 CNN reporting that law enforcement have disarmed two explosive devices, one at the RNC building and one at the Capitol. EmMac and sonar 2 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davo said: CNN reporting that law enforcement have disarmed two explosive devices, one at the RNC building and one at the Capitol. There's one at the DNC as well. Link to comment
EmMac Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Unbelievable And where were the police in the beginning? How the ffaarrk did those fruitcakes get up the steps of Congress let along be allowed to get into Congress. How?? I think there must be serious questions about the lack of police presence. If they were black or Muslim they would have been teargassed assulted and shot at by the police papersun, Wobblies, Sithslayer1991 and 3 others 6 Link to comment
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