ZachMercer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, scarcev said: I've played and coached for 45 years, am certainly not a keeper but if you wish to shed any light on why any keeper in the world at any level would of done what Vedran did please do tell me. With 30 seconds to go there is simply no reason for playing at that ball. Let it go, take your time getting it back then pump it up the park and we win. There is no reason to touch that ball. All I can think is that he's taken the coaches advice to play with confidence too literally, and it's backfired horribly as he's out of form and has lost his timing a lot this season. Only thing that pissed me was the "whatev's" attitude after the mistake. It was the wrong way to set up mentally for the corner to come, and has on balance made him look like a complete tool. Wanderboy 1 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) He’s always been prone to stupid mistake, he did for the other lot against us. This year he’s had 3 in close succession for mine this was the worst the other 2 he thought he could get the ball, this was just lack of concentration not His fault the club gave him a long contract Edited January 28, 2019 by StringerBellend ZachMercer 1 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 the problem is too many mistakes while not making a lot of amazing saves, look at covic he did some dumbarse stuff i remember during a derby where he did a really stupid mistake which cost us but at the same time he didnt get sent off for it, but at the same time the guy made some legendary saves while vedran doesn have that same quality ZachMercer 1 Link to comment
Taurus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Our Gk stocks are in a pretty sad state atm Vedran's focus isn't on the pitch, hence the consistent errors coming to the fore into his game. Not sure whether Suman has fully recovered his confidence, after he suffered a couple of head knocks towards the latter part of last season. Nizic is sitting in the grandstand watching the NYL play in an electrical storm. Greenwood was rested yesterday, who knows he may have to keep the bench warm on Friday. Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 ..................can we have redmayne back? *waits for my ban* tardotz and wendybr 2 Link to comment
matty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, scarcev said: I've played and coached for 45 years, am certainly not a keeper but if you wish to shed any light on why any keeper in the world at any level would of done what Vedran did please do tell me. With 30 seconds to go there is simply no reason for playing at that ball. Let it go, take your time getting it back then pump it up the park and we win. There is no reason to touch that ball. Well you yourself said Vedran was either being a smartass or punting against his team. That's a stupid thing to say for a guy that's played and coaches the game for 45 years - shows a lack of understanding. Link to comment
Carns Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 5 hours ago, wendybr said: Redmayne had no confidence with us...for a combination of reasons. Permanently looked scared. And from the stands, we reinforced that lack of confidence...most of us felt it (compare that with how we felt about Ante). Playing in a successful team...with strong defence and a never say die mentality...along with other things you guys would know more about than I do...has boosted his confidence, and dramatically improved his performance. My 2 cents worth anyway. Redmayne was the same (lack of confidence) at both Brisbane and, more infamously, at Heart. IMO the big change was that the original keeper coach who first nurtured him at CCM was working for Arnie at SFC. Edinburgh 1 Link to comment
Keithie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I guess with the January transfer deadline approaching this coming Thursday we will not be adding any defenders to our squad ? Link to comment
Paul01 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Keithie said: I guess with the January transfer deadline approaching this coming Thursday we will not be adding any defenders to our squad ? Have to offload someone first. Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Paul01 said: Have to offload someone first. can we offload 90% of the team? Link to comment
Paul01 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Swarth said: can we offload 90% of the team? Unfortunately, the salary cap and the PFA won't let that happen tardotz and Neverbloom 2 Link to comment
scarcev Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, matty said: Well you yourself said Vedran was either being a smartass or punting against his team. That's a stupid thing to say for a guy that's played and coaches the game for 45 years - shows a lack of understanding. Well educate me, why did he go near that ball? Tell me. There is no other reason that I can think of as to why a keeper in that situation would play at the ball, and yes that is with 45 years experience. Xfactor 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Swarth said: can we offload 90% of the team? We don't need to offload 90% of the team. We need a striker who can score goals...with his feet not just his head. A tough as they come defender in the NTS mould....... ......., and a midfielder who can boss the middle and set up play. We have been the architects of our own demise with stupid U8 mistakes.....eliminate the stupid errors, bring in some experience and we will be contenders. Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Don’t forget a keeper 😁 sonar 1 Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, scarcev said: Well educate me, why did he go near that ball? Tell me. There is no other reason that I can think of as to why a keeper in that situation would play at the ball, and yes that is with 45 years experience. You both have valid points I’ll meet you in the middle Vedran was doing it because his theory by touching the ball he forces an attacker to come to the ball and makes him gather and kick in Vedran ****ed up thinking he believes this wastes more time but I really don’t see how it does in reality it doesn’t... the roar player would have come within say 5 seconds and then he has to pickup and play it within what is the rule 8 seconds or something if he lets it go, from the time it goes out and he ball boy gives him Another ball he can take easy 20 seconds to put the ball down walk back and punt it so vedrans theory is **** he also should have had his body behind the ball and let it hit him instead of playing at it with his foot so he’s technique and mindset is farked this is why (given the season is well and truely over) he needs to be sent to the stands and rot. If it was his first brainsnap so be it but it’s not it’s like his 3rd A season long benching can mean only good things - 1 - he thinks maybe I should **** off 2 - he realises this **** is no longer on and next season I need to be ready and focussed every game 3 - he sees once again babbel has no problem chucking in kids and makes him think about point 2 more Edited January 28, 2019 by GunnerWanderer Carns and sonar 2 Link to comment
Xfactor Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Bozza has come out today and stated he this janjetovic needs an extended break from the game, not a couple of weeks but longer than that. Coming from the best keeper this country has produced(off field antics excluded) interesting to see how this plays out. I don’t believe he’s good enough for us to be challenging for a title. Link to comment
Upthehill Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Taurus said: Our Gk stocks are in a pretty sad state atm Vedran's focus isn't on the pitch, hence the consistent errors coming to the fore into his game. Not sure whether Suman has fully recovered his confidence, after he suffered a couple of head knocks towards the latter part of last season. Nizic is sitting in the grandstand watching the NYL play in an electrical storm. Greenwood was rested yesterday, who knows he may have to keep the bench warm on Friday. You saying Vedrans mind isn’t on the pitch concerns me greatly. I’m sorry if the guy has personal issues right now but we aren’t a park team and we definitely aren’t a support group. He’ll find fans are 100% behind him if he said he needed a compassion break, but a teams season can’t be sunk by issues like this. Sorry to hear that’s Sumans problem, but he needs to go sort it quickly. If you let the fear settle, you’ll never get your mojo back. Nizic can go do whatever tf he likes, his future doesn’t lie in professional football. At least not at this level. Link to comment
Redwog Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Xfactor said: Bozza has come out today and stated he this janjetovic needs an extended break from the game, not a couple of weeks but longer than that. Coming from the best keeper this country has produced(off field antics excluded) interesting to see how this plays out. I don’t believe he’s good enough for us to be challenging for a title. Bozak knows something that we don't about what troubling the snake. Link to comment
Upthehill Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Paul01 said: I know for a young keeper he is doing well but you know, "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics" Suman 3.0 goals conceded per game 4.5 saves per game Janjetovic 1.75 goals goals concedes per game 3.0 saves per game. The fact that he’s making more saves per game means his having more hit at him. How does that not reinforce why I’m saying? Putt Ziggy in front of Suman, this ratios will start to match up Link to comment
mack Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 It might be that he's worried about a new occurrence of his nerve injury that kept him out of football for nearly a year and stopped him from getting signed to SFC on a senior deal. SFC fans and their forum have always cast doubt on his "personal reasons" issue that saw that swap deal with Redmayne in the first place. Maybe whatever he had then has come back. The SFC fans just think he didn't want to be second choice behind Vukovic. Link to comment
Unlimited Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 What’s Brad Jones doing nowadays Link to comment
Upthehill Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 45 minutes ago, mack said: It might be that he's worried about a new occurrence of his nerve injury that kept him out of football for nearly a year and stopped him from getting signed to SFC on a senior deal. SFC fans and their forum have always cast doubt on his "personal reasons" issue that saw that swap deal with Redmayne in the first place. Maybe whatever he had then has come back. The SFC fans just think he didn't want to be second choice behind Vukovic. I think it was true though. My understanding was he wanted out of there a season earlier and was convinced to stay. Then Vuka turned up and he pushed his way out. Considering his injury disappeared the instant he signed for us, I reckon they were right Link to comment
Davo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, Unlimited said: What’s Brad Jones doing nowadays He won the Eredevisie with Feyenoord and at the beginning of this season moved to Al Hilal’s rival Al Nassr. Link to comment
matty Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, scarcev said: Well educate me, why did he go near that ball? Tell me. There is no other reason that I can think of as to why a keeper in that situation would play at the ball, and yes that is with 45 years experience. 45 years huh :p He was obviously in two minds. His initial reaction was to let it run out untouched. Obviously the way to go. In the back of his mind he was thinking that he could trap it - without his hands, and waste more time by then waiting for opposition players to force him to pick it up. That's what I was actually thinking as I watched it live "he could trap that and waste more time". As a keeper I've been in similar situations many times. It was a difficult ball to trap considering it was bouncing the way it was but of he got his body behind it he would have been fine. He got stuck in two minds, he ****ed it. dcrow 1 Link to comment
Taurus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Upthehill said: You saying Vedrans mind isn’t on the pitch concerns me greatly. I’m sorry if the guy has personal issues right now but we aren’t a park team and we definitely aren’t a support group. He’ll find fans are 100% behind him if he said he needed a compassion break, but a teams season can’t be sunk by issues like this. Sorry to hear that’s Sumans problem, but he needs to go sort it quickly. If you let the fear settle, you’ll never get your mojo back. Nizic can go do whatever tf he likes, his future doesn’t lie in professional football. At least not at this level. Vedrans issues aren't related to any medical condition, rather it's a case of priorities. He appears to have entered a new relationship & as he stated to a well known fan recently when quizzed about the teams apparent lack of effort / passion, it's only a job mate. Suman was stood down from training for a couple of months, to ensure the concussion related issue had been resolved. His confidence may take a while to return Link to comment
Taurus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 hours ago, matty said: He got stuck in two minds, he ****ed it. He who hesitates is lost Link to comment
Taurus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Unsubstantiated rumour = striker is gorn Upthehill 1 Link to comment
hawks2767 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Is there another name for a striker who doesn't strike ? Link to comment
GunnerWanderer Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yep the guy in your avatar Harvey, sonar, dcrow and 1 other 4 Link to comment
DeeDee Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 for all those pumping Redmayne's tyres, ask any smurf and hed be the first out the door. He is still average as hell. He simply ha a good defence in front of him and a team that can control the ball. Carns, MartinTyler, EmMac and 2 others 5 Link to comment
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