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Squad Development 2018/19 Part 2

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33 minutes ago, Taurus said:

I see Duke & Yeboah as our starting wide players next season.

I think Majok has more upside than Kamau, but wouldn't be surprised if we honoured the other year of his contract.

Risdon isn't on big dollars, although I agree he's been poor for us. He came here to work with Popa & get noticed. He apparently signed for us on less than he was being paid at Perth   

Majok? You've got to be kidding. I watched the Youth GF the other day live and then watched the recoding on Fox. Trust me, it looked even worse live.

As dcro said in an earlier post, Kamau just needs to bulk up a little. Majok needs to learn the simple fundamentals of the game. His touches are atrocious and he's not alone there either.

As far as Risdon goes, he's been a part of a very ordinary back line. I really don't think we've ever seen the best of him. I'd certainly keep him if wants to stay.

Remember, this is just one man's opinion. 

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5 minutes ago, mack said:

If Babbel watched the NYL GF there should be no way he'd re-sign Majok.

That for sure, Roberts and Pufflett were both better than him.

my son and I made the effort to see the game, and I said to him at halftime that Majok should have started on the bench.

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4 minutes ago, mack said:

If Babbel watched the NYL GF there should be no way he'd re-sign Majok.

Despite it being the youth league, which by the way he is still only 20, it's hard to judge him on one game and he has only played 8 A-league matches, most of them off the bench with limited minutes. I just think it's a bit rough to judge a player who has barely any experience and has played maybe 2 bad games but from what i've seen he has had some promising signs. Just my opinion but i'll know some will say otherwise. 

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1 hour ago, Taurus said:

I see Duke & Yeboah as our starting wide players next season.

I think Majok has more upside than Kamau, but wouldn't be surprised if we honoured the other year of his contract.

Risdon isn't on big dollars, although I agree he's been poor for us. He came here to work with Popa & get noticed. He apparently signed for us on less than he was being paid at Perth   

Really? I disagree on Majok vs Kamau but can see the argument for Majok. It depends on the type of football you want to play or the players you have. I like Kamau because he offers something different to a big winger (ie smaller and zippy). Also Majoks touch :(

 

Nice insight on Risdon, do you think his heart is in it with us? It doesn't look like it and I don't like the looks of his effort. 

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8 hours ago, harrycripps said:

@Taurus

Kosta Grozos Retain /Upgrade to Marquee status

Are you serious? Are you his agent? What is your connection to him as you seem to promote him up all the time? I haven't seen anywhere near enough to justify a strting spot let alone marquee status. What do you base that statement on?

I wish that were the case

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18 hours ago, pseudonym said:

Dumb question:

how likely is it that all of those players would be released by the club in one go? I'm guessing some contracts would have to be paid out?

Transfer to the Primo All Ages team in Chullora!

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Kamau reminds me a bit of Hersi. Both slight of build but with skill.

I'd keep Kamau. I think we've not seen the best of him.

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30 minutes ago, WanderingToqui said:

Kamau reminds me a bit of Hersi. Both slight of build but with skill.

I'd keep Kamau. I think we've not seen the best of him.

Yes Hersi’s finishing was poor too.

I loved his pressing though 

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35 minutes ago, WanderingToqui said:

Kamau reminds me a bit of Hersi. Both slight of build but with skill.

I'd keep Kamau. I think we've not seen the best of him.

Kamau has moments where he is excellent, breaks through and runs at players and offloads a great pass.  He has set up a couple of good goals and can occasionally shoot.  My frustration with Kamau is he runs with his head down and runs too far before passing most of the time.  He doesn't always make good runs for the ball inside and when he does runs away from players.  Interestingly this is an area Sotirio seems to be improving on - running into space.  The end product isn't always great but nor is Kamau's.  They are the same age - Kamau turning 24 and it is time both lifted to the next level.  He is pushed off the ball far too easily and when compared to someone like Isaias (a similar size) doesn't have the skill level of holding and protecting the ball, aggression and stability to hold it or get it back.  I'm not convinced.

Majok is like a giraffe and is just as clumsy sometimes.  Then there are the moments he runs with the ball and does some great stuff.  Can he improve further in the next couple of years than Kamau is at (and will Kamau go to the next level or just float along with slight improvement like Baccus Senior)?

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The worry with Majok is his first touch is terrible, I’m not sure (and people with coaching experience please chip in) that changes much now.  

Roberts looks far better to me  

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The less Fitzgerald plays the better people on Facebook think he is.

Its the Idan Tal principle (crap Everton player in 90s that never got a game, messgaboards / fans seemed to think that somehow he was the savour)

if he doesn’t get another game by the end of season he will become Messi in some people eyes 

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11 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

The less Fitzgerald plays the better people on Facebook think he is.

 

I don;t think anyone thinks Fitzgerald will save this season. But the fact is, some of our best performances have been with him on the field. Mudgee, Perth away  (we were up when he was taken off) City (we were up when he was taken off) victory, all come to mind. Its just another nail in Babbels coffin that he would play Roly out of position, or Majok ahead of Fitzy. In fairness to Babbel, it seems he decided before the season started that he was going to push Fitzy out and he has stuck to his guns, despite the results. Now thats Mentality! 

Defense is a team responsibility, not just the back four. Babbel has been unable to fix the overall defense all season. He slags the players, but does anyone see a strategy in place for reducing the exposure of the back four. It seems easier to blame individuals, referees, pitches, fatigue or the whole young generation in general, than to get the team to defend as a unit.

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41 minutes ago, WSWFF said:

I don;t think anyone thinks Fitzgerald will save this season. But the fact is, some of our best performances have been with him on the field. Mudgee, Perth away  (we were up when he was taken off) City (we were up when he was taken off) victory, all come to mind. Its just another nail in Babbels coffin that he would play Roly out of position, or Majok ahead of Fitzy. In fairness to Babbel, it seems he decided before the season started that he was going to push Fitzy out and he has stuck to his guns, despite the results. Now thats Mentality! 

Defense is a team responsibility, not just the back four. Babbel has been unable to fix the overall defense all season. He slags the players, but does anyone see a strategy in place for reducing the exposure of the back four. It seems easier to blame individuals, referees, pitches, fatigue or the whole young generation in general, than to get the team to defend as a unit.

I just think we're weak at the back, weak in the middle and weak upfront. Add injuries and using players out of position has us spoon contenders.

Having a few classy players is the equivalent of putting a turbo charger in your mums yaris. It's still a yaris.

Edited by ZachMercer

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5 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

I just think we're weak at the back, weak in the middle and weak upfront. Add injuries and using players out of position has us spoon contenders.

Having a few classy players is the equivalent of putting a turbo charger in your mums yaris. It's still a yaris.

Yes, but it will probably go out of control and crash.

Oh, wait ...

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Yeah but not having a few classy players is the equivalent of leaving your mum's Yaris as a bog stock Yaris.

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39 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

I just think we're weak at the back, weak in the middle and weak upfront.

So just weak?

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39 minutes ago, Davo said:

Yeah but not having a few classy players is the equivalent of leaving your mum's Yaris as a bog stock Yaris.

There's the conundrum. I don't think some of our classy players are leaders or add that much value this year and I think the leagues moved on from just having a few stars and then the "other" guys in the team. I feel the better teams this season have continuity and depth is distributed more evenly across their teams.

The question is - is it better to have a stock yaris that is predictable in handling, or something that can't corner.

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3 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

There's the conundrum. I don't think some of our classy players are leaders or add that much value this year and I think the leagues moved on from just having a few stars and then the "other" guys in the team. I feel the better teams this season have continuity and depth is distributed more evenly across their teams.

The question is - is it better to have a stock yaris that is predictable in handling, or something that can't corner.

I can't think of a situation where having classy players in your squad is a bad idea.

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32 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

 

The question is - is it better to have a stock yaris that is predictable in handling, or something that can't corner.

At the moment it feels like we're waiting for the bus in the rain dreaming of having a Yaris

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35 minutes ago, Davo said:

I can't think of a situation where having classy players in your squad is a bad idea.

I think the point I was trying to make was that your classy players still rely on others to be classy.

For example, Riera is a header and hold up specialist but whats the point if we don't have the supporting quality to put it on his head, or have anyone follow up on the hold. ABJ can be as slippery as an eel, but whats the point if there's no one on the receiving end.

It appears that this season the classy players haven't created a benchmark for squadies and juniors to lift and aspire to, rather they've regressed downward to a more mediocre standard.

Just an opinion.

 

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4 hours ago, Erebus said:

WSW announce Montolivo ffs

His contract finishes end of season. Brings a wealth of experience from the Italian League and has over 66 caps for Italy. Hasn't played yet this year as well.

 

But I don't know? Is there any realistic top quality players we could get come end of season? From what i've heard we've already signed the necessary foreign players for next season.  

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Just now, theguyyouwishyouwere said:

what premier league club did he play for?

Montolivo? He played for Milan, Fiorentina and Atalanta.

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Slightly unusual that an Adelaide journo scoops this.  Wonder if the midfielder's Italian?

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