Perth Glory vs Western Sydney Wanderers 13/1/2019 5:00PM

[sonar]

1 minute ago, matty said:

Hamill did what most defenders do. It would be out of habit more than anything, especially when a large striker is backing into you. 

Not sure why you wanna blame him 

I;m not blaming him for the loss.....just for giving away the pen....our lack of defense cost us.

[HillsPanther]

2 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

Keogh was smart enough to give the ref something to look at

Everyone knows that he is going to go down if you look at him sideways.

[StringerBellend]

15 minutes ago, ZachMercer said:

Castro won them the game. We simply don't have an accountant that matches perths.

We don’t have a second marquee spot used.. nothing to do with accountants our club hasn’t spent the money

Edited January 13, 2019 by StringerBellend

[tardotz]

The pen was soft but the other.... the one  that was a foul on Suman and an offside is the one that I am most annoyed with. 

[StringerBellend]

4 minutes ago, BrightSpark said:

I don't agree with that either. As Madkaw said above, what is Hamill meant to do disappear? 

We can't start playing to trying please biased refs. Otherwise, we might as well just give the game away.

He put two arms round him he didn’t need to do that 

[BrightSpark]

3 minutes ago, HillsPanther said:

Everyone knows that he is going to go down if you look at him sideways.

Yeah, I don't blame the opposition player for milking the penalty. I blame the ref for awarding a blatantly soft penalty.

[matty]

7 minutes ago, sonar said:

I;m not blaming him for the loss.....just for giving away the pen....our lack of defense cost us.

Yeah I didn't mean it for the loss. 

I think you're being very harsh on him. If my CD partner gives away a pen like that in a game, I immediately blow up at the ref. I would think my teammate was 'naive' for a moment, but he's done nothing wrong based on what referees would call 99% of the time

That would be my thinking. 

Put it this way, if we were given a foul like that, I'd take it but think it's soft. 

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Edited January 13, 2019 by matty

[scarcev]

If that's the standard for a pen then every team should expect one in every game from every corner kick in this League

[sonar]

1 minute ago, StringerBellend said:

He put two arms round him he didn’t need to do that 

Yep.That was my point. 

[mack]

If Hamill keeps his hands by his sides, he's entitled to his position and Keogh can do nothing but give away a foul or have to play with the back to goal. Instead the idiot Hamill wraps his arms around Keogh's waist and once that happens Keogh just rushes backwards, falls over and gets a penalty from a dumb**** A-League referee. It's monumentally stupid.

[Edinburgh]

Just now, scarcev said:

If that's the standard for a pen then every team should expect one in every game from every corner kick in this League

And when have the Wanderers ever received a penalty for something like that or even blatantly obvious ones?

Answer: never in our history.

[StringerBellend]

Just now, mack said:

If Hamill keeps his hands by his sides, he's entitled to his position and Keogh can do nothing but give away a foul or have to play with the back to goal. Instead the idiot Hamill wraps his arms around Keogh's waist and once that happens Keogh just rushes backwards, falls over and gets a penalty from a dumb**** A-League referee. It's monumentally stupid.

Yep if you put two arms around a striker in the box you can’t be suprised when a penalty is given.

as billy Bragg once said “he’s a accident waiting to happen”

 

 

[Burztur]

9 minutes ago, BrightSpark said:

I don't agree with that either. As Madkaw said above, what is Hamill meant to do disappear? 

We can't start playing to trying please biased refs. Otherwise, we might as well just give the game away.

Keogh leaned back against Hamill and fell. It wasn't due to the shirt pulling. 

[Burztur]

At the end of the day, we lack the #mentality to see out a game and the refs are inconsistent as ****. We can only fix half the problem. 

[beatsurrender]

We wuz robbed again eh!

Maybe, maybe not but that's not why we lost. Every time they came forward we wobbled. That's the issue.  Had they not got a soft penalty they would have scored some other way. We were hanging on. That's the problem 

[Smoggy]

Just now, beatsurrender said:

We wuz robbed again eh!

Maybe, maybe not but that's not why we lost. Every time they came forward we wobbled. That's the issue.  Had they not got a soft penalty they would have scored some other way. We were hanging on. That's the problem 

If we scored 5 they would have scored 6....Perth went up a few gears and we had no answer....

[sonar]

5 minutes ago, Burztur said:

At the end of the day, we lack the #mentality to see out a game and the refs are inconsistent as ****. We can only fix half the problem. 

It's been said before here we lack quality. I give Babbel credit for how the team performed in this game. We were on a hiding to nothing and only silly errors cost us a result. 

On the upside we have youngsters who will benefit from the experience. I think this season is gone so the best we can hope for is to be a spolier for teams in the six.....give 'em some misery. lol

Edited January 13, 2019 by sonar

[Smoggy]

1 minute ago, sonar said:

As it's been said before here we lack quality. I give Babbel credit for how the team performed in this game. We were on a hiding to nothing and only silly errors cost us a result. 

We have no leader in a team full of A leauge journeymen....Hamill for example is neither a leader or regular starter in a usual squad....

[BrightSpark]

2 minutes ago, Burztur said:

At the end of the day, we lack the #mentality to see out a game and the refs are inconsistent as ****. We can only fix half the problem. 

I don't agree that we lack the #mentality. We just scored 3 goals away against the number 1 team in the league, with half our players missing, and a referee that throughout the Match was determined to stop us.

And we still nearly won.

I'm not saying we can't improve, or that we're having a great season.

But clearly we can play a competitive game of football.

I do agree that we can't fix the refs, though.

[tardotz]

The only good thing about this game is that Perf are another 3pts ahead of MVC and the Smurfs

[Burztur]

2 minutes ago, BrightSpark said:

I don't agree that we lack the #mentality. We just scored 3 goals away against the number 1 team in the league, with half our players missing, and a referee that throughout the Match was determined to stop us.

And we still nearly won.

I'm not saying we can't improve, or that we're having a great season.

But clearly we can play a competitive game of football.

I do agree that we can't fix the refs, though.

We have the right attitude and determination. #mentality is perhaps the wrong word. What I mean is the ability to grind out a match to secure a result. As much as Hamill and Elrich put in, we need to trade up as they are really squaddies.

[mack]

On 13/01/2019 at 7:25 PM, mack said:

That's an interesting point. I know the year the Mariners beat us in the Grand Final they only had three foreigners (Zwaanswijk, McGlinchey & Montgomery). In Round 27 they only played Zwaanswijk against Heart and left McGlinchey & Montgomery in Gosford. Don't appear to have any games without them all.

The early years of the comp it's quite likely there were a bunch of teams who didn't use any foreigners. edit - In round 1 2005/06 the first game ever played didn't have any foreigners get on the park for either Newcastle or Adelaide. 

So I asked Andrew Howe about games without any foreigners, and he seems to think the only game ever that had no foreign players on the pitch, was indeed that first ever game.

For specific teams not having any foreign players, I suspect there would be some hidden in the second season possibly, as a quick scan suggest that Sydney FC, Adelaide, Newcastle and the Mariners didn't have many foreigners at all.