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It is good.

I mean, millions of the plants are growing around the world now, but, it's cool the gorge was saved.

Sigh. I'm still dreading what it will look like to go down some of my favourite gorges.

 

1 hour ago, Ossified said:

Absolute extreme right wing lies as usual. Stop making this **** up. Sucked in everytime.

Victoria police say there is no evidence any of the devastating bushfires in the state were caused by arson, contrary to the spread of global disinformation exaggerating arsonist arrests during the current crisis.

A misleading figure suggesting 183 arsonists have been arrested “since the start of the bushfire season” spread across the globe on Wednesday, after initial reports in News Corp were picked up by Donald Trump Jr, US far-right websites and popular alt-right personalities.

I mean, we shouldn't be surprised, that for some people, despite the statements of EXPERTS ON THE GROUND WHOSE JOB IT IS TO ACTUALLY DETERMINE THE CAUSES AND THEN DEAL WITH THEM, it is more likely that a grand conspriracy exists which would have to involve not only the hundreds of arsonists but  every single EXPERT ON THE GROUND, who for the most part would not have any reason to engage in such a conspiracy, as well as law enforcement to actually hide the real figures, across state lines and inter-agency, and that the only place which is reporting such things is ONE news agency with a PROVEN RECORD of essentially makings **** up for political ends.

Our mate up thread is most likely trolling, but if you are buying this ****, go **** yourself, seriously.  The thing is, you don't even need to admit you are wrong about climate change or whatever else. Your blessed ******* market can actually solve this regardless for the betterment of everyone.

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1 hour ago, Ossified said:

Absolute extreme right wing lies as usual. Stop making this **** up. Sucked in everytime.

Victoria police say there is no evidence any of the devastating bushfires in the state were caused by arson, contrary to the spread of global disinformation exaggerating arsonist arrests during the current crisis.

A misleading figure suggesting 183 arsonists have been arrested “since the start of the bushfire season” spread across the globe on Wednesday, after initial reports in News Corp were picked up by Donald Trump Jr, US far-right websites and popular alt-right personalities.

Would you expect the Labor Socialist Peoples State of Victoria to admit there were arsonists ! Yes right.

Like there is no African gangs in Victoria. And of course there are no looters either. It's all Scott Morrison.

Labor never lie , except for NSW ?. Obeid jailed , Chinese money in Aldi bags.etc , etc. No the Left are as pure as the driven snow and don't lie.

Wake up to yourself.

 

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So the arsonists are only in Victoria where there is a labor government to cover it up.

Please continue.

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26 minutes ago, marron said:

So the arsonists are only in Victoria where there is a labor government to cover it up.

Please continue.

The exreme marxist and socialist regime in NSW currently called the Liberal Party, has also come out and said the vast majority of fires are not due to arson.......it's a leftist cover up conspiracy I tell ya...! 

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3 hours ago, wendybr said:

 

He was asked for a meeting with former fire chiefs...he declined.

He was told of the looming crisis. He ignored it.

He pretended that firefighters love doing what they do, and was not proactive in supporting them.

He kept insisting that it was a state issue, rather than a national catastrophe, and that states would ask if they needed assistance.

He. didnt.get.it....and I doubt if he even cared.

 

Most of those were a consequence of what happened rather than before. ScoMo's reaction to the events were dreadful. You seemed to be implying he should have done more in the year or so leading up...that is what I am interested in your thoughts on.

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1 minute ago, Smoggy said:

Most of those were a consequence of what happened rather than before. ScoMo's reaction to the events were dreadful. You seemed to be implying he should have done more in the year or so leading up...that is what I am interested in your thoughts on.

I know you are asking wendy, but, the events that are occuring were predicted by Ross Garnaut.......12 years ago.......

Twelve years ago, economist Ross Garnaut made a prophecy that has devastatingly come true.

In the 2008 Garnaut Climate Change Review, which examined the scientific evidence around the impacts of climate change on Australia and its economy, he predicted that without adequate action, the nation would face a more frequent and intense fire season by 2020.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-08/economic-bushfires-billions-ross-garnaut-climate-change/11848388

The govt has no forward planning....they have been in power for nigh on 7 years..... a disaster waiting to happen.

Unfortunately for my country it has.

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**** I hate that line about "what did you want him to do that could have stopped this".

Yeah, well, as others have pointed out, the advice has been there for a long time, so, that would have been nice to you know, actually listen to the people who know about this **** rather than some ******* advertising exec or landed gentry having a guess about it all the ****ers.

Thing is, it's not about trying to have stopped just this (this being the worst natural disaster in the recorded history of this continent). It's about trying to stop this happening AGAIN. Which means a leader coming out and saying, "look, this is really bad. Here is the support we are  going to give RIGHT NOW to try and assist people and organisations to head off as much as we can. And here is what we will be doing afterwards to start looking at preventing this kind of thing continuing to happen."

Not hard, you'd think.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, sonar said:

 

The govt has no forward planning....

 

That is what I am looking at. What kind of forward planning and preventative measures would assist when you get an extreme event like the one the Indian Ocean threw at us. What measures are the government guilty of over the last 12 months?

More burning off,  this kind of approach - https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/land/aboriginal-fire-management

Lots of anger here but interested in how we prepare and what the government should be doing.

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Investment in national parks staff to be able to

a) assess risk properly

b) carry out burns based on the assessment and the ecological needs etc as well

Work out ways for the RFS to be able to prepare and contain, whether that be with more equipment or increase in numbers over certain periods.

Assessment of food sources at risk and preventative measures there as well.

Looking at water management is a big area too.

 

Market forces should sort it out though i should think. :lol:

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13 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

That is what I am looking at. What kind of forward planning and preventative measures would assist when you get an extreme event like the one the Indian Ocean threw at us. What measures are the government guilty of over the last 12 months?

More burning off,  this kind of approach - https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/land/aboriginal-fire-management

Lots of anger here but interested in how we prepare and what the government should be doing.

This all depends on where your starting point is........climate change fact or fiction.?

 

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1 minute ago, sonar said:

This all depends on where your starting point is........climate change fact or fiction.?

 

:acute:

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3 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

:acute:

It was a rhetorical question mate.......If you believe in CC then you have policies to mitigate....if you don't you just let it slide.....just like ScoMo/Abbott.....et al

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1 hour ago, theseeker said:

Would you expect the Labor Socialist Peoples State of Victoria to admit there were arsonists ! Yes right.

Like there is no African gangs in Victoria. And of course there are no looters either. It's all Scott Morrison.

Labor never lie , except for NSW ?. Obeid jailed , Chinese money in Aldi bags.etc , etc. No the Left are as pure as the driven snow and don't lie.

Wake up to yourself.

 

You are starting to sound a bit deranged 

I can’t be bothered pointing out how flawed your logic is 

Edited by StringerBellend

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1 hour ago, Smoggy said:

That is what I am looking at. What kind of forward planning and preventative measures would assist when you get an extreme event like the one the Indian Ocean threw at us. What measures are the government guilty of over the last 12 months?

More burning off,  this kind of approach - https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/land/aboriginal-fire-management

Lots of anger here but interested in how we prepare and what the government should be doing.

Note the date: April 2019. The PM had explicit, unambiguous warning, he had experts telling him we weren’t prepared and he had solutions if he wanted to listen. 
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/09/former-fire-chiefs-warn-australia-unprepared-for-escalating-climate-threat

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14 hours ago, Cynth said:

Note the date: April 2019. The PM had explicit, unambiguous warning, he had experts telling him we weren’t prepared and he had solutions if he wanted to listen. 
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/09/former-fire-chiefs-warn-australia-unprepared-for-escalating-climate-threat

Thanks Cynth!

This.

THIS!!!!!

I imagine this is mainly why firefighters told him to "**** off", told him down "STAND DOWN NOW", refused to shake his hand....

THIS  is where he turned his back on the desperate and pressing interests of this country, and focused on ****, like the Israel Folau crap.

And our country has been ravaged as a result....all predicted for decades, not only by "greenies" but by economists like Garnaut.

And then, when he finally wakes up, months too late, he thinks he can fix it with a pathetic cash splash set to a self serving maketing jingle.

PS Smoggy, this unforgivable misstep of his got a lot of publicity a few weeks back, but perhaps you were on your travels and weren't watching the News so much?

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8 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

You are starting to sound a bit deranged 

I can’t be bothered pointing out how flawed your logic is 

Where's Jonathan Pie when you need him?

Eh?

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1 hour ago, wendybr said:

Where's Jonathan Pie when you need him?

Eh?

Trump is a prick.. so is Johnson.. yes how stupid are they (ok lefties you with me) .. yes but what about that Uni students and safe campuses aren’t they stupid yeah pricks made a clumsy attempt not offend people... if it wasn’t for them sensible people wouldn’t for Morrison’s.. prick.... (holds ear) back to the studio 

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15 hours ago, marron said:

**** I hate that line about "what did you want him to do that could have stopped this".

Yeah, well, as others have pointed out, the advice has been there for a long time, so, that would have been nice to you know, actually listen to the people who know about this **** rather than some ******* advertising exec or landed gentry having a guess about it all the ****ers.

Thing is, it's not about trying to have stopped just this (this being the worst natural disaster in the recorded history of this continent). It's about trying to stop this happening AGAIN. Which means a leader coming out and saying, "look, this is really bad. Here is the support we are  going to give RIGHT NOW to try and assist people and organisations to head off as much as we can. And here is what we will be doing afterwards to start looking at preventing this kind of thing continuing to happen."

Not hard, you'd think.

Do you sense anger in your community, against a govt/PM who hasn't heeded warnings, and has provided far too little, FAR  too late, Marron?

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Uh, yeah, but then again this polling booth was the leftiest of lefty in the lefty blue mountains, so that's to be expected. Plus lots of people up here involved in national parks etc (including someone I know who lost their job in the funding cuts, one of the things they used to do regularly was fire management stuff....)

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23 minutes ago, marron said:

Uh, yeah, but then again this polling booth was the leftiest of lefty in the lefty blue mountains, so that's to be expected. Plus lots of people up here involved in national parks etc (including someone I know who lost their job in the funding cuts, one of the things they used to do regularly was fire management stuff....)

Makes sense - thanks Marron.

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On 17/01/2020 at 7:33 PM, sonar said:

total bull.....

So you believe Shortens bull....

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4 minutes ago, Bones said:

So you believe Shortens bull....

no....nor yours as well.

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On 17/01/2020 at 8:23 PM, wendybr said:

Huh?

Please explain.

Well you tell me did the carbon pricing scheme work and we’re making progress towards a global warming solution?

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1 minute ago, Bones said:

Well you tell me did the carbon pricing scheme work and we’re making progress towards a global warming solution?

oh but it was...FACT......go do a bit of research.

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5 minutes ago, sonar said:

no....nor yours as well.

Which part?

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2 minutes ago, Bones said:

Well you tell me did the carbon pricing scheme work and we’re making progress towards a global warming solution?

Yes, it worked to reduce Australia's emission.

We were playing our part, in good faith.

Which is all we can do.

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4 minutes ago, sonar said:

oh but it was...FACT......go do a bit of research.

Thanking Mr Abbott for not subjecting us to a pointless tax scheme.

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2 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Yes, it worked to reduce Australia's emission.

We were playing our part, in good faith.

Which is all we can do.

We still are.

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2 minutes ago, Bones said:

We still are.

Playing our part?

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