MartinTyler Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Andrew Constance yesterday suggested that the Federal Govt was obsessed with it's surplus and that money should be used to get bushfire affected businesses up are running. Be interesting to see the reaction from Morrison, Frydenburg etc wendybr 1 Link to comment
Legionista Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If only everyone was obsessed with living within their means. Imagine. Link to comment
Cynth Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legionista said: If only everyone was obsessed with living within their means. Imagine. Yes I can imagine.....it would mean everyone should just stay in their lane, don’t take risks to try for something better. It would mean balancing the books would be the priority over dreams and imagination and investing in a bigger tomorrow! Very sensible Legia. Oh and welcome back. I missed you. Edited February 18, 2020 by Cynth Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Cynth said: Yes I can imagine.....it would mean everyone should just stay in their lane, don’t take risks to try for something better. It would mean balancing the books would be the priority over dreams and imagination and investing in a bigger tomorrow! Very sensible Legia. Oh and welcome back. I missed you. Two different things Link to comment
Midfielder Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 What I find interesting is in most parts of the world climate science is accepted as fact and the argument is essentially about the speed in introducing renewables and phasing out carbon based fuels and the best methods to do so. Only the USA & Australia, are casting doubt on the science and this is not commonly reported .... I honestly have no idea how educated people can look at the science and with no expertise claim it to be a put up job from the left when its was the Iron Lady herself in Margret Thrasher who first pointed out CC as an issue and the English conservative party has pushed harder than the left in the UK for renewables. The only think I can think of is the revenue to government and foreign currency for the nation is so large that it can't be done away with... the issue with this thinking is its going to take between 20 & 30 years even if we start now to get rid of the coal mines and most importantly there are new forms of revenue and industries if governments would apply thinking and investment instead of cost cutting scientific investment investing in new areas.. But back to my main point why is the worlds position on CC not better explained by our media ... its more portrayed by our media as the left gaining control .... MartinTyler, Cynth, Potkorok and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Cynth Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Edinburgh said: Two different things How so Ed? Ask any entrepreneur whether they have lived outside their means before, living on borrowed money in the hope of a future profit. And what got us out of the GFC? Spending money we did it have to save people’s future jobs and the economy from going into recession. And ask someone who chooses to go on an overseas trip of a lifetime that they can’t afford, for the experience alone. Dreams, imagination and investment into the future. All risks, all could fail. But you know a government surplus is good too. Sensible, stable and able to be spent on election bribes in the future. wendybr 1 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Midfielder said: What I find interesting is in most parts of the world climate science is accepted as fact and the argument is essentially about the speed in introducing renewables and phasing out carbon based fuels and the best methods to do so. Only the USA & Australia, are casting doubt on the science and this is not commonly reported .... I honestly have no idea how educated people can look at the science and with no expertise claim it to be a put up job from the left when its was the Iron Lady herself in Margret Thrasher who first pointed out CC as an issue and the English conservative party has pushed harder than the left in the UK for renewables. The only think I can think of is the revenue to government and foreign currency for the nation is so large that it can't be done away with... the issue with this thinking is its going to take between 20 & 30 years even if we start now to get rid of the coal mines and most importantly there are new forms of revenue and industries if governments would apply thinking and investment instead of cost cutting scientific investment investing in new areas.. But back to my main point why is the worlds position on CC not better explained by our media ... its more portrayed by our media as the left gaining control .... Look at our media ownership Todays front page of the telegraph was a half page ad for sky news and an article on A reality TV show we are truely ****ed wendybr, MartinTyler, Cynth and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Midfielder Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, StringerBellend said: Look at our media ownership Todays front page of the telegraph was a half page ad for sky news and an article on A reality TV show we are truely ****ed OK but aside from News we have... ABC, SBS, Fairfax, Ch 9, Ch 7, & Ch 10... Only the Project seems to look at the rest of the world and solutions... like they did last night with Germany... Sometimes me thinks .... reporters are writing to say inner city hard core true believers... in doing this allow the CCD space to spread rubbish.. Last night how The Project showed what Germany was doing and what is happening in the rest of the world was so refreshing and I would love to see more of it... News is beyond bad but purely blaming them masks IMO the inability of others to tell the story better... wendybr 1 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Cynth said: How so Ed? Ask any entrepreneur whether they have lived outside their means before, living on borrowed money in the hope of a future profit. It's not black and white. No matter what I say here you will disagree somehow. An entrepreneur is more likely to sacrifice other things to live within their means. If they don't the project goes bust no matter how good it is. That doesn't mean they won't borrow or take a risk just that it's a calculated risk. And what got us out of the GFC? Spending money we did it have to save people’s future jobs and the economy from going into recession. Borrowing, taking a calculated risk that we had the means to repay!? Yes, all good. Including sacrificing some other things to achieve it! And ask someone who chooses to go on an overseas trip of a lifetime that they can’t afford, for the experience alone. Again they sacrifice other things so they can afford it. Dreams, imagination and investment into the future. All risks, all could fail. Yes, I know and I'm still paying off my failed risks. But I am paying them off because the risks were considered to be within my means. But you know a government surplus is good too. Sensible, stable and able to be spent on election bribes in the future. Still not the same Do I believe the government should aim for a surplus regardless? No. Do I believe achieving a surplus is a good thing? A qualified yes. What is the aim of the surplus? Reduce existing debt? A good idea. Provide for future spending? A good idea. Hasn't the government said the planned surplus is secondary to meeting the needs of the recent disasters! Living within your means and taking a risk are not mutually exclusive. wendybr 1 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Probably not a good plan to send nudes to a 13 year old and tell them you are going to take their virginity, unless you are female and if you are then feel free go ahead, no issues there https://youtu.be/mbVq5balFGU Link to comment
MathyouWSW Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 For those that hate ScoMo...and also like memes, here you go: Paul01, wendybr and Neverbloom 3 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 i miss Rudd.......well somewhat Link to comment
wendybr Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, GlobalWarning said: i miss Rudd.......well somewhat Actually, K Rudd provides quite a good evaluation of a lot of media/politics issues in that interview. Worth listening to! EmMac and Neverbloom 2 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, wendybr said: Actually, K Rudd provides quite a good evaluation of a lot of media/politics issues in that interview. Worth listening to! i watched part of it so far and i agree but its not only that he actually has a sense of humour, its a pretty weird sense of humour but he seems human unlike the robot trying to pretend to be human that is our current pm wendybr and MathyouWSW 2 Link to comment
wendybr Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Absolutely. And he is very smart, knowledgeable and astute. Link to comment
Carns Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 He's also a megalomaniac. sonar 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 And egocentric...which comes thru in the interview. No question. But that doesn't negate the fact that he is smart, knowledgeable and astute. Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 he does have plenty of negative traits.......but he cant reach scott in terms of negative traits wendybr 1 Link to comment
Wobblies Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 One of Australia's best Journalists..... https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/scourge-of-wage-fraud-demands-action-20200220-p542wc.html EmMac, wendybr and sonar 3 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 More handouts. WA churches with Liberal links win grants of almost $40,000 in four months https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/25/wa-churches-with-liberal-links-win-grants-of-almost-40000-in-four-months?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard wendybr and EmMac 2 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) And a disturbing article Older, wiser but underemployed: no longer can it be treated with indifference https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2020/feb/25/older-wiser-but-underemployed-no-longer-can-it-be-treated-with-indifference?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Edited February 24, 2020 by Paul01 Correction wendybr and EmMac 2 Link to comment
MathyouWSW Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I like Norway but honestly f*ck off. I'm so glad they aren't going ahead with destroying a popular tourist destination wendybr, EmMac, Paul01 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Dutton is Trump without the money Dutton says 'leftwing lunatics' must be dealt with as Asio warns of far-right threat https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/25/dutton-says-leftwing-lunatics-must-be-dealt-with-as-asio-warns-of-far-right-threat?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard EmMac 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 17 hours ago, Paul01 said: More handouts. WA churches with Liberal links win grants of almost $40,000 in four months https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/25/wa-churches-with-liberal-links-win-grants-of-almost-40000-in-four-months?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard 18 minutes ago, Paul01 said: Dutton is Trump without the money Dutton says 'leftwing lunatics' must be dealt with as Asio warns of far-right threat https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/25/dutton-says-leftwing-lunatics-must-be-dealt-with-as-asio-warns-of-far-right-threat?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard I can honestly barely find the words to describe how despicable this govt is. EmMac 1 Link to comment
Neverbloom Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 any form of extremism can pretty much be a threat, any religion can be a threat if the person is extreme enough, same with atheists and both the left and right can be a threat, but Dutton is just deflecting, the past 10 ish years i think there has been a rise in right wing extremism not just in australia though Link to comment
Paul01 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 And more corruption involving Taylor and his conservative mates Government to spend millions buying water from company it already paid $80m https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/feb/26/government-to-spend-millions-buying-water-from-company-it-already-paid-80m?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment
marron Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-26/sports-grants-scott-morrison-club-got-money-already-built/12001522?pfmredir=sm Oh, you mean, these rorts. Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Here yer go @wendybr your mate should be happy about this https://www.sbs.com.au/news/education-minister-seeks-to-end-university-cancel-culture If this Liberal party tit is on your side then, it maybe time to re look at it Once again “free speech” Link to comment
wendybr Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, StringerBellend said: Here yer go @wendybr your mate should be happy about this https://www.sbs.com.au/news/education-minister-seeks-to-end-university-cancel-culture If this Liberal party tit is on your side then, it maybe time to re look at it Once again “free speech” Hmmmm... Is Barack Obama a "tit" for taking exception to "cancel culture"? As discussed last year? 'You’re politically woke and all that': Barack Obama cancels the cancel culture https://www.sbs.com.au/news/you-re-politically-woke-and-all-that-barack-obama-cancels-the-cancel-culture?cid=newsapp:socialshare:copylink Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, wendybr said: Hmmmm... Is Barack Obama a "tit" for taking exception to "cancel culture"? As discussed ladt year? 'You’re politically woke and all that': Barack Obama cancels the cancel culture https://www.sbs.com.au/news/you-re-politically-woke-and-all-that-barack-obama-cancels-the-cancel-culture?cid=newsapp:socialshare:copylink He is Link to comment
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