Neverbloom Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 3:37 PM, wendybr said: Lol....I did think of that too, but I thought I'd give Jobseekers the benefit of the doubt! 😁😁 i was going to buy alcohol either way On 09/05/2020 at 2:05 PM, Carns said: The Gov knew that with the sheer number of people who would be unemployed - many of which would've never been unemployed - it would be untenable expecting those people to live on so little. The rhetoric of "the best form of welfare is a job" falls a bit flat and they can't call them "dole bludgers". The fact they did it immediately shows they knew the original payment was not something people could realistically live on. Particularly somewhere like Sydney. that is a very good point, i do wonder how much people would turn against how much people on benefits were payed when they actually had to live on that amount either way glad some things have changed Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 This is excellent David Squires on ... bidding farewell to a stubborn virus https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/may/14/david-squires-on-bidding-farewell-to-a-stubborn-virus?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Carns 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 And Plod trying to contravert rights of children Questions over proposed ASIO powers to question children as young as 14 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-14/peter-dutton-introduces-bill-giving-asio-powers-to-talk-to-teens/12246886 sonar and wendybr 2 Link to comment
MathyouWSW Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Paul01 said: This is excellent David Squires on ... bidding farewell to a stubborn virus https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/may/14/david-squires-on-bidding-farewell-to-a-stubborn-virus?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard The drawing of Scott Morrison is spot on. That stupid smirk look he does just pisses me off so much everything he does it. sonar, wendybr, Neverbloom and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Paul01 said: And Plod trying to contravert rights of children Questions over proposed ASIO powers to question children as young as 14 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-14/peter-dutton-introduces-bill-giving-asio-powers-to-talk-to-teens/12246886 Plod also asking for ASIO to have powers to intercept phones WITHOUT a warrant. What a f***wit. Dictator Dutton IMO wendybr and sonar 2 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Read this https://www.smh.com.au/national/new-asio-law-one-more-step-towards-a-totalitarian-state-20200513-p54smi.html Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Change.org has a petition on the issue of Dutton and his crap legislation. I can give you a link but we can't have the Dark One become the Dark Lord. Link to comment
marron Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Quote Not only does Dutton’s bill impinge significantly on the rights of lawyers and their clients, it reduces independent scrutiny of ASIO’s surveillance activities. ASIO officers will have the power to track individuals and will only have to get the OK to do so from another ASIO officer rather than having to file paperwork for a warrant from an independent judicial officer. This approval can be oral, so long as paperwork is filed two days later. And what sort of tracking technology is allowed? Any technology ASIO “has access to” albeit with the usual toothless caveats about it being “appropriate and subject to strict accountability requirements and restrictions". I guess, like, i don't know, some kind of app on your phone that was tracking the contacts you had with people? Like that? CaptainJess 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Here's an article discussing education, public and private, some discussion on curricula, NAPLAN and most importantly, who controls (sort of) education. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/how-covid-19-exposed-the-fault-lines-in-australian-education-20200514-p54t5v.html wendybr 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Beijing has to be careful in its target of Australian exports — some manufacturing companies are owned by Chinese investors https://flip.it/IB_XFZ Link to comment
mack Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Why would that matter? Especially in a country where the billionaires have to play nice with the Government as opposed to here where the Government plays nice with the billionaires? Any Government who implements trade sanctions in such a fashion is likely to directly subsidise or at least placate anyone who has investments in the countries being targeted. Morrison is insane. Carrying water for Trump's idiocy and attacks on China, what the hell is Trump going to do for us? The EU? Absolutely ******* nothing. That's what. Our country is being set up as a pinata for China in order to further capitalist international realpolitik against a country that doesn't bow and scrape before the other nuclear powers like the US. China suffered the Century Of Humiliation, came out of it by implement a social order that not even the Soviet Union managed to survive to the end of the 1900's using, and has cemented itself as something that cannot be easily overthrown in a coup or short little war like the US has done to dozens of other countries. With nuclear weapons. And our Government is throwing themselves at China saying "please, wreck our economy even harder" for what? What interest does it server Australia to push pro-US anti-China COVID conspiracies (oh wait, sorry "an 'independent' investigation into China's handling of the COVID crisis lead by an inevitably biased United States or one of their puppet states) on a global stage to help Trump win re-election? pseudonym, Carns, wendybr and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will eat her alive Climate change critical issue in Eden-Monaro byelection as 6 in 10 voters say more action needed by government https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/climate-change-critical-issue-in-eden-monaro-byelection-as-6-in-10-voters-say-more-action-needed-by-government?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard wendybr 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paul01 said: I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will eat her alive Climate change critical issue in Eden-Monaro byelection as 6 in 10 voters say more action needed by government https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/climate-change-critical-issue-in-eden-monaro-byelection-as-6-in-10-voters-say-more-action-needed-by-government?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Like many Liberals she believes that Climate Change is real right up to the point of actually doing something about it. Then.....nothing. Edited May 24, 2020 by sonar Paul01, EmMac and wendybr 3 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Roll out the (pork) barrel NSW ministers accused of 'farcical' cash splash http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-25/nsw-ministers-accused-of-favouritism-in-arts-spending/12271392 Link to comment
Legionista Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 23/05/2020 at 2:18 PM, mack said: Why would that matter? Especially in a country where the billionaires have to play nice with the Government as opposed to here where the Government plays nice with the billionaires? Any Government who implements trade sanctions in such a fashion is likely to directly subsidise or at least placate anyone who has investments in the countries being targeted. Morrison is insane. Carrying water for Trump's idiocy and attacks on China, what the hell is Trump going to do for us? The EU? Absolutely ******* nothing. That's what. Our country is being set up as a pinata for China in order to further capitalist international realpolitik against a country that doesn't bow and scrape before the other nuclear powers like the US. China suffered the Century Of Humiliation, came out of it by implement a social order that not even the Soviet Union managed to survive to the end of the 1900's using, and has cemented itself as something that cannot be easily overthrown in a coup or short little war like the US has done to dozens of other countries. With nuclear weapons. And our Government is throwing themselves at China saying "please, wreck our economy even harder" for what? What interest does it server Australia to push pro-US anti-China COVID conspiracies (oh wait, sorry "an 'independent' investigation into China's handling of the COVID crisis lead by an inevitably biased United States or one of their puppet states) on a global stage to help Trump win re-election? Edinburgh 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Legionista said: Cynth 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 An instance in which the law is an ass. Judge rules $51 million raised by comedian Celeste Barber can only go to NSW RFS http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-25/celeste-barber-bushfire-fundraiser-money-only-for-rfs/12282016 Link to comment
wendybr Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Paul01 said: Roll out the (pork) barrel NSW ministers accused of 'farcical' cash splash http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-25/nsw-ministers-accused-of-favouritism-in-arts-spending/12271392 What an utter disgrace. New nickname for the Deputy Premier...John Porkbarilaro. Paul01 and MartinTyler 2 Link to comment
Flytox Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Paul01 said: I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will eat her alive Climate change critical issue in Eden-Monaro byelection as 6 in 10 voters say more action needed by government https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/climate-change-critical-issue-in-eden-monaro-byelection-as-6-in-10-voters-say-more-action-needed-by-government?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard It is interesting that GetUp uses a market research company co-owned by the CFMEU and the ACTU. Link to comment
mack Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Paul01 said: I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will eat her alive She's lying because their polling says she should say that. If elected will immediately switch to the usual denialist position of the LNP. Paul01 and wendybr 2 Link to comment
Legionista Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 One wonders that if we were not so absorbed by the issue of climate change over the last decade and a half there would be some attention and money to spare in other areas. More pressing issues. Link to comment
Legionista Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Let's all praise China for how many miles ahead of us they on Climate Change. Mack you first. wendybr 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Legionista said: One wonders that if we were not so absorbed by the issue of climate change over the last decade and a half there would be some attention and money to spare in other areas. More pressing issues. You mean like the $12bn pa fossil fuel subsidies. https://www.marketforces.org.au/campaigns/ffs/ Link to comment
Legionista Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, sonar said: You mean like the $12bn pa fossil fuel subsidies. https://www.marketforces.org.au/campaigns/ffs/ No subsidies should be paid. Would you agree? Link to comment
sonar Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Legionista said: No subsidies should be paid. Would you agree? For renewables OR fossil fuels.? For me, if you look at it logically & economically once coal/gas/oil is burned or processed it's gone forever. They are a finite resource. Renewables for eg...solar + batteries make more sense because of the fact that the sun rises every day Tbh Legia can you imagine if the $12bn for just two years of FF subsidies ($ 24bn) was used to develop solar and battery with the added bonus of no or relatively minor enviormental impacts. Edited May 25, 2020 by sonar EmMac 1 Link to comment
wendybr Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Legionista said: One wonders that if we were not so absorbed by the issue of climate change over the last decade and a half there would be some attention and money to spare in other areas. More pressing issues. Issues such as....? Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Good to see the debate is moving on wendybr 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Yet again the conservatives favour the big end of town to hide white collar crime Frydenberg’s changes to shareholder class actions smack of ‘cronyism’, lawyers say https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/frydenbergs-changes-to-shareholder-class-actions-smack-of-cronyism-lawyers-say?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Link to comment
Midfielder Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Fell off my seat... work colleagues rushed over to help... grasping for air and in dizzy disbelief I point to my computer screen... Then another person collapsed in shock struggling to get words out... So Mo announced today... careful be sure your sitting down... he wants to overhaul industrial relations... no brainier ... followed that up with he wants the Unions involved and business to develop a workable system for job creation and decent pay... he then announced all government current legislation going through parliament against unions would be cancelled.... essentially a Bob Hawke type consensus Its just a guess but maybe So Mo has had his body taken over... by something... watch the vid it only goes for about 50 seconds ... maybe I am dreaming... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-26/scott-morrison-industrial-relations-business-unions-coronavirus/12287072 Sithslayer1991, mack, wendybr and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Cynth Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Legionista said: One wonders that if we were not so absorbed by the issue of climate change over the last decade and a half there would be some attention and money to spare in other areas. More pressing issues. Hmmmmm.....for the last three years, the US administration has certainly not been absorbed by the issue of climate change and certainly haven’t devoted money to it.....and yet it hasn’t seemed to make them more prepared for a pandemic, more able to address health care issues, more able to reduce poverty or inequality, more able to reduce the death rate by gun crime. Sooo....you should quit wondering. Nice to see a dissenting voice though.... Edited May 26, 2020 by Cynth wendybr and MartinTyler 2 Link to comment
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