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the discussion on q&a is very interesting atm but sadly with scotty at the helm i cant see anything changing

 

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but it is the perfect time to advance as a society and use our natural resources to our advantage and not just coal

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My local Federal MP shown to be a white collar criminal

Company part-owned by Angus Taylor illegally poisoned endangered grasslands, investigation finds https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/30/angus-taylor-jam-land-company-part-owned-illegally-poisoned-endangered-grasslands-investigation-finds?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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48 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

We are getting back to normal (sort of) when there stories like this resurfacing 

New emails show PM had involvement in sports grants, Labor claims http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-08/labor-sports-grants-prime-minister-email-bridget-mckenzie/12229924

Morrison and his staff were the masterminds of the scheme. It's interesting that even though he gets a high pass mark for thr the C-19 response the polling shows the major parties at 50/50.

People haven't forgotten the cluster***k that was Hawaii or the response to the bushfires.

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1 hour ago, sonar said:

Morrison and his staff were the masterminds of the scheme. It's interesting that even though he gets a high pass mark for thr the C-19 response the polling shows the major parties at 50/50.

People haven't forgotten the cluster***k that was Hawaii or the response to the bushfires.

i wonder what his standing would be if covid never happened, its helped him recover somewhat sadly

i am curious what will happen with welfare after this, he was pretty much the only person on the planet who didnt want to increase it and circumstances have changed that, i wonder if he will try to reduce it to its original amount

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1 hour ago, HollowedHeart said:

i am curious what will happen with welfare after this, he was pretty much the only person on the planet who didnt want to increase it and circumstances have changed that, i wonder if he will try to reduce it to its original amount

They'll definitely try to roll it back a bit (particularly considering the budgets that will have to occur over the next few years/decade to pay off some of the debt accumulated during the pandemic). BUT, I don't believe they'll be able to take it all the way back. It was widely accepted that $40/day is not enough to live on (even doubling of it is not easy to live on), but I cannot see them getting it back to that level without copping a lot of criticism for it. Labor has also flagged that they believe that it will have to be lowered from its current position, but politically whilst in opposition it is in their interest to hold the Gov accountable and not let them roll it all the way back.

You've got to remember that the amount paid hasn't increased in real terms above minimum inflation rates in about 20 years, it had to come up. All sides of politics knew this, it just wasn't politically advantageous to start throwing money at welfare (it is traditionally more of a Labor/"left wing" policy).

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2 minutes ago, Carns said:

They'll definitely try to roll it back a bit (particularly considering the budgets that will have to occur over the next few years/decade to pay off some of the debt accumulated during the pandemic). BUT, I don't believe they'll be able to take it all the way back. It was widely accepted that $40/day is not enough to live on (even doubling of it is not easy to live on), but I cannot see them getting it back to that level without copping a lot of criticism for it. Labor has also flagged that they believe that it will have to be lowered from its current position, but politically whilst in opposition it is in their interest to hold the Gov accountable and not let them roll it all the way back.

You've got to remember that the amount paid hasn't increased in real terms above minimum inflation rates in about 20 years, it had to come up. All sides of politics knew this, it just wasn't politically advantageous to start throwing money at welfare (it is traditionally more of a Labor/"left wing" policy).

honestly i fully support them rolling it back a bit, because the amount i am getting now is nuts, but i agree with you there, i can just imagine scott trying to roll it back completely but i agree i cant imagine labor and the greens would really let him

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2 hours ago, HollowedHeart said:

honestly i fully support them rolling it back a bit, because the amount i am getting now is nuts, but i agree with you there, i can just imagine scott trying to roll it back completely but i agree i cant imagine labor and the greens would really let him

It has sort of bemused me, that at a time when people had nowhere much to spend money, that these benefits doubled!

Guess they were hoping all the Jobseekers would hit Bunnings, Coles, Woolies and Aldi, and spend up big!!

Not that I didnt think the benefits were too low for quite some time!

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1 minute ago, wendybr said:

It has sort of bemused me, that at a time when people had nowhere much to spend money, that these benefits doubled!

Guess they were hoping all the Jobseekers would hit Bunnings, Coles, Woolies and Aldi, and spend up big!!

Not that I didnt think the benefits were too low for quite some time!

......or dan murphy's :P

 

i agree its a very weird situation, oddly enough a lot of shops are still open stuff like jb hi fi, office works, harvey norman, eb games, none i would consider essential and i dont know if those shops ever shut down

i do agree benefits have been insanely low for a very long time and if the government want to continue giving me double then feel free :P

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6 minutes ago, wendybr said:

It has sort of bemused me, that at a time when people had nowhere much to spend money, that these benefits doubled!

Guess they were hoping all the Jobseekers would hit Bunnings, Coles, Woolies and Aldi, and spend up big!!

Not that I didnt think the benefits were too low for quite some time!

The Gov knew that with the sheer number of people who would be unemployed - many of which would've never been unemployed - it would be untenable expecting those people to live on so little. The rhetoric of "the best form of welfare is a job" falls a bit flat and they can't call them "dole bludgers".

The fact they did it immediately shows they knew the original payment was not something people could realistically live on. Particularly somewhere like Sydney.

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14 minutes ago, wendybr said:

It has sort of bemused me, that at a time when people had nowhere much to spend money, that these benefits doubled!

Guess they were hoping all the Jobseekers would hit Bunnings, Coles, Woolies and Aldi, and spend up big!!

Not that I didnt think the benefits were too low for quite some time!

The crunch will come for a lot of people when the rates are put back to pre C-19 levels in Sept and people have to survive on next to nothing.

Edited by sonar

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1 hour ago, HollowedHeart said:

......or dan murphy's :P

Lol....I did think of that too,   but I thought I'd give Jobseekers the benefit of the doubt!

😁😁

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1 hour ago, Carns said:

The Gov knew that with the sheer number of people who would be unemployed - many of which would've never been unemployed - it would be untenable expecting those people to live on so little. The rhetoric of "the best form of welfare is a job" falls a bit flat and they can't call them "dole bludgers".

The fact they did it immediately shows they knew the original payment was not something people could realistically live on. Particularly somewhere like Sydney.

Very good point Carns!

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what a dumbass question, car crashes are not contagious

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On 09/05/2020 at 3:37 PM, wendybr said:

Lol....I did think of that too,   but I thought I'd give Jobseekers the benefit of the doubt!

😁😁

i was going to buy alcohol either way :P

 

On 09/05/2020 at 2:05 PM, Carns said:

The Gov knew that with the sheer number of people who would be unemployed - many of which would've never been unemployed - it would be untenable expecting those people to live on so little. The rhetoric of "the best form of welfare is a job" falls a bit flat and they can't call them "dole bludgers".

The fact they did it immediately shows they knew the original payment was not something people could realistically live on. Particularly somewhere like Sydney.

that is a very good point, i do wonder how much people would turn against how much people on benefits were payed when they actually had to live on that amount :P either way glad some things have changed

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24 minutes ago, Paul01 said:

The drawing of Scott Morrison is spot on. That stupid smirk look he does just pisses me off so much everything he does it.

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16 hours ago, Paul01 said:

And Plod trying to contravert rights of children 

Questions over proposed ASIO powers to question children as young as 14 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-14/peter-dutton-introduces-bill-giving-asio-powers-to-talk-to-teens/12246886

Plod also asking for ASIO to have powers to intercept phones WITHOUT a warrant.

What a f***wit.

Dictator Dutton IMO 

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Change.org has a petition on the issue of Dutton and his crap legislation.

I can give you a link but we can't have the Dark One become the Dark Lord.

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Not only does Dutton’s bill impinge significantly on the rights of lawyers and their clients, it reduces independent scrutiny of ASIO’s surveillance activities. ASIO officers will have the power to track individuals and will only have to get the OK to do so from another ASIO officer rather than having to file paperwork for a warrant from an independent judicial officer. This approval can be oral, so long as paperwork is filed two days later. And what sort of tracking technology is allowed? Any technology ASIO “has access to” albeit with the usual toothless caveats about it being “appropriate and subject to strict accountability requirements and restrictions".

I guess, like, i don't know, some kind of app on your phone that was tracking the contacts you had with people? Like that?

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Beijing has to be careful in its target of Australian exports — some manufacturing companies are owned by Chinese investors

https://flip.it/IB_XFZ

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Why would that matter? Especially in a country where the billionaires have to play nice with the Government as opposed to here where the Government plays nice with the billionaires? Any Government who implements trade sanctions in such a fashion is likely to directly subsidise or at least placate anyone who has investments in the countries being targeted.

Morrison is insane. Carrying water for Trump's idiocy and attacks on China, what the hell is Trump going to do for us? The EU? Absolutely ******* nothing. That's what. Our country is being set up as a pinata for China in order to further capitalist international realpolitik against a country that doesn't bow and scrape before the other nuclear powers like the US.

China suffered the Century Of Humiliation, came out of it by implement a social order that not even the Soviet Union managed to survive to the end of the 1900's using, and has cemented itself as something that cannot be easily overthrown in a coup or short little war like the US has done to dozens of other countries. With nuclear weapons.

And our Government is throwing themselves at China saying "please, wreck our economy even harder" for what? What interest does it server Australia to push pro-US anti-China COVID conspiracies (oh wait, sorry "an 'independent' investigation into China's handling of the COVID crisis lead by an inevitably biased United States or one of their puppet states) on a global stage to help Trump win re-election?

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I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will  eat her alive

Climate change critical issue in Eden-Monaro byelection as 6 in 10 voters say more action needed by government https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/climate-change-critical-issue-in-eden-monaro-byelection-as-6-in-10-voters-say-more-action-needed-by-government?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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1 hour ago, Paul01 said:

I watched the conservative (Liberal Party) candidate for Eden-Monaro on the news last night saying she believes in climate-charge. If she were to be elected, that party room will  eat her alive

Climate change critical issue in Eden-Monaro byelection as 6 in 10 voters say more action needed by government https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/25/climate-change-critical-issue-in-eden-monaro-byelection-as-6-in-10-voters-say-more-action-needed-by-government?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Like many Liberals she believes that Climate Change is real right up to the point of actually doing something about it. Then.....nothing.

Edited by sonar

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