Australian Current Affairs Thread (not a Politics Thread) lol

[ManfredSchaefer]

How those in the right wing aligned media really perceive 'free speech'...

Edited April 1, 2019 by ManfredSchaefer

[Neverbloom]

i am pretty sure i am late but pretty good discussion on newstart on qanda

 

agreed with the guy who said work is dignity, back when i had a job for 4 seconds before i got fired even though what i was doing was simple it felt great having it, i miss that job

[hawks2767]

Work is definitely dignity but we all know as Westies there's some people in the area that are content to do without it, and they seem to gravitate towards others in the same boat to make them feel better about their situation.

I have a cousin who definitely fits into this category.

[Carns]

 

[wendybr]

NEVER thought I'd say it...EVER....earlier on.

But....I'll actually miss Christopher Pyne.

He has been one of the big personalities of the Parliament....in a quirky kinda way.

I felt quite sad seeing him say farewell.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/christopher-pyne-takes-a-final-bow/ar-BBVBhdA?ocid=spartandhp

[mack]

I'd have a thought a teacher would despise him.

[sonar]

12 minutes ago, wendybr said:

NEVER thought I'd say it...EVER....earlier on.

But....I'll actually miss Christopher Pyne.

He has been one of the big personalities of the Parliament....in a quirky kinda way.

I felt quite sad seeing him say farewell.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/christopher-pyne-takes-a-final-bow/ar-BBVBhdA?ocid=spartandhp

Not me. The sooner they are gone the better.......I could go into an angry rant about him and his party but not tonight..............a lot of govt shoolls especially are worse off because of him and his govt. When schools have to ask parents for money to buy equipment and such something is not right with the system. Gonski should of been implemented in full. It's a shame it wasn't....end of rant.......

[wendybr]

And I was sad to see Doug Cameron leaving. I've never seen him put a foot wrong.

This was one of his finest hours.

 

[wendybr]

Just now, sonar said:

Not me. The sooner they are gone the better.......I could go into an angry rant about him and his party but not tonight..............a lot of govt shoolls especially are worse off because of him and his govt. When schools have to ask parents for money to buy equipment and such something is not right with the system. Gonski should of been implemented in full. It's a shame it wasn't....end of rant.......

Oh believe me, I'll be devastated it they aren't out on their arses in a month's time.

 

Rant on....

[Neverbloom]

45 minutes ago, wendybr said:

^^^ Meh.

And I was sad to see Doug Cameron leaving. I've never seen him put a foot wrong.

This was one of his finest hours.

 

i assume his speech made hanson immediately apologise and then completely change her racist views?

 

seriously though great speech hanson is so embarrassing but the more embarrassing thing for me is i actually have family who support her

[wendybr]

Thoughts here on this?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/islamic-state-recruit-mahir-absar-alam-insists-hes-not-a-threat-if-allowed-to-return-to-australia/ar-BBVAIAZ?ocid=spartandhp

PS He put his foot in it with one sentence here I think, but.......

[Midfielder]

 

 

[mack]

2 hours ago, wendybr said:

Thoughts here on this?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/islamic-state-recruit-mahir-absar-alam-insists-hes-not-a-threat-if-allowed-to-return-to-australia/ar-BBVAIAZ?ocid=spartandhp

PS He put his foot in it with one sentence here I think, but.......

Bring back. Find guilty of Treason. Life in jail no parole.

[wendybr]

6 hours ago, Midfielder said:

 

 

By far his finest moment! 

[hawks2767]

7 hours ago, wendybr said:

Thoughts here on this?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/islamic-state-recruit-mahir-absar-alam-insists-hes-not-a-threat-if-allowed-to-return-to-australia/ar-BBVAIAZ?ocid=spartandhp

PS He put his foot in it with one sentence here I think, but.......

He thinks we're idiots, he would have seen the ISIS videos and knew full well what he was signing up for - this wasn't some oasis in the desert, from day 1 they were hacking people's heads off and posting it online - look back to when they overran the Syrian base at Raqqa and started executing prisoners.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-28497722/isis-overruns-syrian-military-base-of-raqqa

That was 2014, the same time he went.

 

 

[Paul01]

About time

Tax office may apply 40% tax against multinationals for diverting profits https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/apr/05/tax-office-may-apply-40-tax-against-multinationals-for-diverting-profits?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

[Legionista]

Taxation is theft. 

[wendybr]

55 minutes ago, Legionista said:

Taxation is theft. 

Yes Zip...we've heard this all before.

Assuming you wish to live in a "developed", well ordered society, how are the services we take for granted provided without taxation...hmmmm?

You guys don't mind spending on Defence - you can start there if you like. 

[Wobblies]

28 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Yes Zip...we've heard this all before.

Assuming you wish to live in a "developed", well ordered society, how are the services we take for granted provided without taxation...hmmmm?

You guys don't mind spending on Defence - you can start there if you like. 

And throw in the Police force and Border Security.

[wendybr]

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And throw in the Police force and Border Security.

Nowhere near as important as Border Security and the army, airforce, navy, with their guns and planes and submarines etc, but then throw in:

at the Local level - waste collection and roads.

and at the State level schools and hospitals...but then I guess we should all be going private and paying for it all ourselves?

 

PS Taxation is Theft is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard...and Legia is only playing around here, I know.

[StringerBellend]

2 hours ago, Legionista said:

Taxation is theft. 

Gave it a ha ha 

 

but are you  serious I honestly can’t tell sometimes 

I’m pretty sure you taking the piss of the loony left

 

Edited April 7, 2019 by StringerBellend

[Zelinsky]

"taxation is theft" is a philosophical position. Michael Sandel in his Justice book explains it nicely. It has something to do with self-ownership, and freedom of choice which are very Western concepts.

Libertarians don't consider it a philosophy though, but a hard objective truth. But just because it feel right to them does not mean that it is right for everyone. One can equally argue that taxation a way of giving back to the community.

Gina Rinehart has accumulated a massive personal wealth. She's done so by taking things out of the soil, and selling them. At the same time the debt of WA has gone through the roof. There is something wrong with that picture.

[mack]

The conversion of labour into excessive profits is theft.

[Wobblies]

54 minutes ago, FCB said:

"taxation is theft" is a philosophical position. Michael Sandel in his Justice book explains it nicely. It has something to do with self-ownership, and freedom of choice which are very Western concepts.

Libertarians don't consider it a philosophy though, but a hard objective truth. But just because it feel right to them does not mean that it is right for everyone. One can equally argue that taxation a way of giving back to the community.

Gina Rinehart has accumulated a massive personal wealth. She's done so by taking things out of the soil, and selling them. At the same time the debt of WA has gone through the roof. There is something wrong with that picture.

The greatest examples of libertarianism in action are the hundreds of men, women and children standing alongside the roads all over Honduras. The government won’t fix the roads, so these desperate entrepreneurs fill in potholes with shovels of dirt or debris. They then stand next to the filled-in pothole soliciting tips from grateful motorists. That is the wet dream of libertarian private sector innovation.

[Cynth]

If the goal of a government is a mediocre society then sure, taxation is theft. 

Our socialised health system makes our quality of health and our survival rates some of the best in the world. Whilst the US with its privatised health system has well below developed country standards of quality of health and survival rates, including the highest rates of maternal death in the developed world. 

I’ll pay my taxes thanks. And I will support the payment of taxes by the biggest tax evaders like the wealthy and corporations....

Edited April 7, 2019 by Cynth

[wengerboy]

2 hours ago, FCB said:

"taxation is theft" is a philosophical position. Michael Sandel in his Justice book explains it nicely. It has something to do with self-ownership, and freedom of choice which are very Western concepts.

Libertarians don't consider it a philosophy though, but a hard objective truth. But just because it feel right to them does not mean that it is right for everyone. One can equally argue that taxation a way of giving back to the community.

Gina Rinehart has accumulated a massive personal wealth. She's done so by taking things out of the soil, and selling them. At the same time the debt of WA has gone through the roof. There is something wrong with that picture.

Libertarians probably makes sense if you are a adult male and live in a rural area therefore are capable and need of complete self-reliance, but it goes out the window if you live in a city.

As for mining, the thing literally comes from the land and the country, if anything gets taxed is has to be mining it comes from the country therefore the benefits should go to the country.

 

[ManfredSchaefer]

Dunno about the relationship between theft and tax, but can definitely see an association between the former and oxygen in some individuals' cases... 

Edited April 7, 2019 by ManfredSchaefer

[Unlimited]

9 hours ago, mack said:

The conversion of labour into excessive profits is theft.

Not really - as long as those excessive profits are re-distributed back to the people that helped make them, i.e. bonus schemes

It's why lots of people want to work at Macquarie Bank for instance. Apparently when their $15k (?) or something bonus a few years ago got announced they were running amok on all of the floors just crying of happiness

[StringerBellend]

25 minutes ago, Unlimited said:

Not really - as long as those excessive profits are re-distributed back to the people that helped make them, i.e. bonus schemes

It's why lots of people want to work at Macquarie Bank for instance. Apparently when their $15k (?) or something bonus a few years ago got announced they were running amok on all of the floors just crying of happiness

Heartwarming stuff 

[StringerBellend]

At the same time, Morrison continued to sell his “fair go” Australia campaign – a vision he claims the multimillionaire owners of champion racehorse Winx personify.