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9 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Me too...unless there is no other option (which sometimes does happen late in the day).

I make a point of telling the staff I do not use the self serve and make them do it anyway.

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Ahh...I'll have to try that.

If I'm forced to use the self serve check out, I generally make my displeasure known. :xmad: :xmad:

Lol.

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PS I've posted once or twice being forced to use the Big W self service check out.... with 6 pillows, two hoses and numerous other items.

Just the memory of that experience makes me feel :xmad::xmad::xmad:

 

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Have people really sat down and thought why there are so many retail shops on main streets etc that are empty.? The advent of online shopping or doing business is making these places redundant and the jobs that go with them. Why would people want to go to a shopping precinct where 1) Parking can be a nightmare...2)  no parking out front or 3) carparks that are full or 4 ) Parking is time limited.5) Public transport is erratic....especially in the suburbs.

Almost every service industry....phone,gas,electricity,water, insurance, car rego,real estates ( rent )  etc ALL want transactions done online and with direct debit and you get charged a fee for wanting to pay at the post office or in person.. They do not want retail shopfronts and the costs involved especially employing people which they see as an added cost not a benefit. There are a few industries where you need to employ people such as mechanics,plumbers,builders etc but the pool of available jobs is getting smaller. Tbh I dont know what the best solution is but the time is coming where creative minds are going to have to get together to find better outcomes. 

 

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Do you think governments raising minimum wages and various crippling industrial relations measures such as enforcing penalty rates makes the the moves you are describing more or less attractive?

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5 minutes ago, Legionista said:

Do you think governments raising minimum wages and various crippling industrial relations measures such as enforcing penalty rates makes the the moves you are describing more or less attractive?

Do you think people should be paid a decent living wage and work in a safe environment? 

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18 minutes ago, Legionista said:

Do you think governments raising minimum wages and various crippling industrial relations measures such as enforcing penalty rates makes the the moves you are describing more or less attractive?

So pay people less than they are entitled to......and people will get the money to pay for business services.......how?......steal it?.......lol

How do you feel about massive subsides to business.....for instance.......coal......farming..........it's just socialism isn't it....?

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38 minutes ago, Legionista said:

Do you think governments raising minimum wages and various crippling industrial relations measures such as enforcing penalty rates makes the the moves you are describing more or less attractive?

Good luck getting anyone to actually answer your question, let alone a balanced response. 

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8 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

Good luck getting anyone to actually answer your question, let alone a balanced response. 

Ed, I have to ask....what is a "balanced response"? 

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1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

Do you think people should be paid a decent living wage and work in a safe environment? 

I think it’s up to the individual to get paid. The onus is on you or me to make sure you or me gets paid a decent living wage.

People should be able to work in a safe environment. However, there are some jobs that where danger can be minimised but never totally eliminated and for such jobs they should be compensated and they usually are. 

Underwater welders are a good example. What they get paid would make your toes curl, but hey, danger money is danger money. The job is dangerous by definition. No one is forcing them to do it. 

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1 hour ago, sonar said:

So pay people less than they are entitled to......and people will get the money to pay for business services.......how?......steal it?.......lol

How do you feel about massive subsides to business.....for instance.......coal......farming..........it's just socialism isn't it....?

There it is. Right there. “Entitled”. 

Last question. Yes it is. 

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1 hour ago, sonar said:

Ed, I have to ask....what is a "balanced response"? 

Fair question. 

In part at least, it's a matter of opinion.

I consider your response to Legionista's question as an example of the opposite. But there's been a lot worse on here.

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Is business "entitled" to subsidies...?

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Just now, sonar said:

Is business "entitled" to subsidies...?

Businesses should not receive subsidies of any kind.

 

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3 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

Fair question. 

In part at least, it's a matter of opinion.

I consider your response to Legionista's question as an example of the opposite. But there's been a lot worse on here.

Which part don't you like.....? Which part is not balanced.....People getting what they are entitled to which is enacted by by law....? Or farmers and miners getting massive handouts.....?

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4 minutes ago, sonar said:

Is business "entitled" to subsidies...?

Your question has been answered.

I'm curious though. What do you think is the reason governments provide subsidies to businesses? 

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Just now, Edinburgh said:

Your question has been answered.

I'm curious though. What do you think is the reason governments provide subsidies to businesses? 

Usually to get it back in donations..........:rofl: Certainly not to employ people.

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2 minutes ago, sonar said:

Which part don't you like.....? Which part is not balanced.....People getting what they are entitled to which is enacted by by law....? Or farmers and miners getting massive handouts.....?

You didn't answer the question and instead branched off into other matters.

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4 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

Your question has been answered.

I'm curious though. What do you think is the reason governments provide subsidies to businesses? 

To protect jobs!

Because everyone is entitled to a job!

Sorry couldn’t help myself. 

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1 minute ago, sonar said:

Usually to get it back in donations..........:rofl: Certainly not to employ people.

My understanding of the main reason for subsidies as to assist/encourage businesses so they can provide more jobs.

I don't doubt there are exceptions, both good and bad.

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6 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

You didn't answer the question and instead branched off into other matters.

I did answer it.....but just not to your satisfaction. or point of view. We come from very very different angles on this I agree. If people do not get a wage they can  live by how does business grow.? It doesn't and the current economic outlook totally backs me up. The RBA is on the verge of cutting interest rates because the economy and wage growth is stagnant. People are not earning enough to spend. 

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3 minutes ago, sonar said:

I did answer it.....but just not to your satisfaction. or point of view. We come from very very different angles on this I agree. If people do not get a wage they can  live by how does business grow.? It doesn't and the current economic outlook totally backs me up. The RBA is son the verge of cutting interest rates because the economy and wage growth is stagnant.

I agree we disagree. Including what was the question.

 

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11 minutes ago, Edinburgh said:

I agree we disagree. Including what was the question.

 

:rofl:

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From the editor of a local newspaper, commenting on the reactions to the election result:

- "Much has been said of the 'silent majority' and it's quite clear this was a factor. As someone said to me over the weekend, 'when people get shouted down for their views, they don't change them, they just keep quiet.  And then they vote'."

- "The left wants to blame everybody and everything but themselves  - it's the media's fault, it's Clive Palmer's fault, it's Pauline Hanson's fault, white men are to blame ... the list goes on.

"Truth is the Labor primary vote was so poor at this election that quite clearly,  the left's voice was disregarded and scoffed at by those who simply don't have time to whinge on Twitter or create petitions about mindless squabble."

Pretty much nails it for me, especially the first two paragraphs. 

 

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On 25/05/2019 at 6:35 PM, Cynth said:

Scary.... 

Very scary. But we should be looking for new type of jobs and not hold on to industries/sectors which will become obsolete. 

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1 hour ago, Edinburgh said:

My understanding of the main reason for subsidies as to assist/encourage businesses so they can provide more jobs.

I don't doubt there are exceptions, both good and bad.

That's the theory, in practice it doesn't always work out that way. For mine it was a question of priorities in the last election, mine would have been to spend on public education and health, the governments was tax cuts to "boost employment", if those cuts do go to boost employment, then that's a good thing, I doubt the majority of it will (and most evidence suggests it won't).

 

2 hours ago, Legionista said:

I think it’s up to the individual to get paid. The onus is on you or me to make sure you or me gets paid a decent living wage.

People should be able to work in a safe environment. However, there are some jobs that where danger can be minimised but never totally eliminated and for such jobs they should be compensated and they usually are. 

Underwater welders are a good example. What they get paid would make your toes curl, but hey, danger money is danger money. The job is dangerous by definition. No one is forcing them to do it. 

Must be great to live in your simple Libertarian world. 

People should be able to work in a safe environment and yes danger can only be minimised and never totally eliminated (underwater welder or not). "Nobody forces miners" to be miners, or manufacturing workers, or shop workers .... 

But it is fine they can all be personally responsible for their safety, and then go to their self funded hospital, via self funded road when if they do get injured.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Edinburgh said:

From the editor of a local newspaper, commenting on the reactions to the election result:

- "Much has been said of the 'silent majority' and it's quite clear this was a factor. As someone said to me over the weekend, 'when people get shouted down for their views, they don't change them, they just keep quiet.  And then they vote'."

- "The left wants to blame everybody and everything but themselves  - it's the media's fault, it's Clive Palmer's fault, it's Pauline Hanson's fault, white men are to blame ... the list goes on.

"Truth is the Labor primary vote was so poor at this election that quite clearly,  the left's voice was disregarded and scoffed at by those who simply don't have time to whinge on Twitter or create petitions about mindless squabble."

Pretty much nails it for me, especially the first two paragraphs. 

 

for a silent majority they don't half make a lot of noise. 

Must be hard for them to get their voice heard, what with all that time spent editing a newspaper

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Someone scoffed at me on twitter so I voted to give billionaires tax breaks and to start a push to increase the GST at my expense to own the left.

As if anyone could believe the boomers who rocked up in their hundreds to "DON'T TAKE MY FRANKING CREDITS OR NEGATIVE GEARING" whinge fests are the "silent" anything. Boomers are the most loudest & collectively selfish generation in history.

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