Squad Development 2019/20 Part 1

[Paul01]

13 minutes ago, Frankos187 said:

If we want to be contenders, we need a LB, unless Georgievski plays there, then we need a RB. Russell aint cut out for it yet (week in week out). 

We have 4 senior contracts left, so unless MB and coaching staff keep a spot up their sleeve like the Smurfs and the Vuck do, we will have an experienced DM, a CF and a winger with the forward spots to go to visa players. Mack has us with 4 senior contracts available. That means we could sign a LB especially if we could offload Vedran for cap space.

CCM still need a GK and the Smurfs may need one (back). 

Edited June 24, 2019 by Paul01
Correction

[Taurus]

4 hours ago, StringerBellend said:

Mini Baccus is a far better player 

Best Baccus likes to mix it

[GunnerWanderer]

Traore would be an upgrade at LB so would be a nice addition

however as dialogue suggests above more love still needed elsewhere in the squad with other positions 

maybe the mariners won’t even take snake I fear we are stuck with him unless ownership dig deep in their pockets for the ‘mutual consent’ departure agreement 

that could cost 200k to 300k easily - well we bough one of those automatic line markers so I’m optimistic ☺️

Edited June 24, 2019 by GunnerWanderer

[Taurus]

We have TE & DG who can play LB.

Cordier & Wilmering have also been signed to provide cover at LB. 

 

[Zelinsky]

Defence is sorted. When Elrich, Tass and Tate played in the back three we were ok. Add Ziegler, Dylan Mc and Georgievski to that, plus Wilmering and Cordier, as Taurus says, and we have enough experience, quality and depth at the back. 

We need another DM, otherwise our season is one injury away from going to ****. Brattan would do the trick. 

Add a CF, head into pre season, and see what happens. Once ziegler is an aussie, the club can fill any gap in the squad with an import outside of the cap. 

[Taurus]

A MUST READ

https://footballnsw.com.au/2019/06/25/diles-continues-wanderers-youth-pathway-to-success/?fbclid=IwAR0PKfcXTej__iAE-NFoyCELTmRhaJGG-rU-e9IBckHyTi016HklcZkc1MQ

 

DILES CONTINUES WANDERERS’ YOUTH PATHWAY TO SUCCESS

25 June , 2019 By Football NSW

Under the mentorship of Arthur Diles, the Western Sydney Wanderers academy sides continue to thrive as a conveyor belt producing future A-League stars.

The former Sydney Olympic, Sydney United, Parramatta Power, Crawley Town and KV Mechelen player has continued to fine-tune his craft as a coach, in order to provide the best possible education for an exciting crop of youngsters at the Western Sydney club.

Diles, who joined the Wanderers academy in 2015, believes his experience overseas and discussion with the club’s first team coaches has been key.

“Just like playing, coaching is something that you always need developing,” he said.

“After doing my coaching education here in Australia I have gone overseas regularly to Europe and visited different clubs and academies to learn and observe how they do things.

“I always ask: is it different to what we do over here? How can I implement some things here to keep improving my players?”

“I have also been fortunate enough to have some good coaches above me at the Wanderers.

“When I first started, Tony Popovic was great as a mentor.

“In the last 18 months, Josep (Gombau) and Markus (Babbel) have all helped out as well.

“It has been something I have invested a lot of time and money into educating myself to be better.”

Diles’ Wanderers side, of which under Football NSW guidelines the vast majority of its first grade outfit must be under the age of 20, currently sit 4^th place of the National Premier League Men’s 2 Competition.

But as is uncharacteristic of most football clubs, for the head coach results are of secondary importance.

“For us, the NPL has been a massive in how it has been able to give young players senior footballing experience,” Diles said.

“Over the years we have probably been the youngest team out of the A-League clubs fielding sides in the NPL division, but we’ve been able to produce more players from NPL 2 to our first team than any other club.

“I think the additional money, resources and coaching means there is a significant difference between the A-League academies and NPL clubs when it comes to developing footballers.

Diles is now familiar with the unique prospect of preparing his youthful outfit to secure results against well-drilled, physical first grade sides while maintaining an emphasis on individual development.

“The challenge is how do you get talented young players to compete week in week out against seasoned, experienced men,” he revealed.

“We put a lot of emphasis into using Monday to Friday as a development opportunities for our players.

“Come the weekend, we want to see the rewards from that and want to see these kids compete and ultimately get rewarded with good performances and good results.

“I think that’s currently working for us.

“Obviously the good gauge is that when you are up against men, you really get to see where our boys are physically.“That is normally the final step. Sometimes we are technically and tactically better than our opponents, but not always physically and mentally.

“In that regard, the NPL is a great springboard for these players to develop mentally and physically, and we are very grateful for it.”

The Wanderers have no shortage of examples of youngsters who have progressed through the academy set-up to secure game time in the Hyundai A-League first team.

“There have been many,” Diles explained.

“Just in the last two or three years we have had the likes of Keanu Baccus, Abraham Majok, Kostandinos Grozos, Tass Mourdoukoutas, Tate Russel, Matieu Cordier, Nick Suman, young Fabian Monge and there’s a couple more to follow shortly.

“It’s been massive for us in the last two years, the amount of players that have gone through to the first team through the youth team and the NPL space.

“I think we are ahead of all the other clubs in terms of doing that.

“That’s a credit to our club and all involved for working hard to develop players, and not just worry about performance and more individual development with the goal of creating professional footballers with our first team.”

Western Sydney Wanderers currently sit on top of the National Premier Leagues Men’s 2 Club Championship, a position that as things stand would secure them passage to the top tier of the competition.

However, Diles and the Wanderers are not fixated by the prospect of promotion.

“To be honest it hasn’t really been spoken about at our club,” he revealed.

“In years gone by it hasn’t been something that we have actively looked to achieve.

“If that can one day happen, great, but it is not something we train for every day.

“Our sole focus is developing our players to become professionals and that is the most important thing.

“You can see in the last few years the rewards of that have really paid off and that, for the club, is worth more than anything else.”

“For us, if we can be playing finals football come the end of the year that would be a great achievement, because we haven’t done that in the last few years.

“But that would be a little team goal that would reward these players for their hard work.

“Come the end of the season the most important objective for us is that we have more players closer to the first team.”

Diles’ outfit are next in action when they make the short away trip to face second placed Hills United FC at Lily Holmes Stadium on Saturday night.

By National Premier Leagues NSW Men’s Reporter Chris Curulli (Twitter handle @ChrisCurulli)

[Taurus]

“Just in the last two or three years we have had the likes of Keanu Baccus, Abraham Majok, Kostandinos Grozos, Tass Mourdoukoutas, Tate Russel, Matieu Cordier, Nick Suman, young Fabian Monge and there’s a couple more to follow shortly.

You can add Jack Greenwood & Daniel Wilmering to that list of players, who have figured at AL level. 

We're verging on having produced a starting 11 from our academy with the likes of Adam, Pagden etc to soon follow

Arthur is now free of AL coaching commitments & has been installed as the head coach of the academy. Labi will perform his prior role of Asst Coach to AL squad.

He & his team of coaches (Beauchamp, Heff, Cannuli etc) can now concentrate on producing more talented players at our wanderful new training & rehab facilities

[DeeDee]

Ben Arfa looking like he may become a free agent again.

No real links but damn i would love him here.

with he and Raddy we could afford to deploy Yeboah or Duke up front.

[GD07]

Let’s see how many go on to play 40-50 games for the first team before we get too ahead of ourselves about the academy. 

[StringerBellend]

Doesn’t the Five Dock Neymar  count?

Edited June 25, 2019 by StringerBellend

[Redwog]

5 hours ago, DeeDee said:

Ben Arfa looking like he may become a free agent again.

No real links but damn i would love him here.

with he and Raddy we could afford to deploy Yeboah or Duke up front.

A marquee striker or the like has to be priority. Aside from us, no team has had real success without one. Unfortunately, having one has been when we've lacked success. But that has to change.

[Upthehill]

51 minutes ago, Redwog said:

A marquee striker or the like has to be priority. Aside from us, no team has had real success without one. Unfortunately, having one has been when we've lacked success. But that has to change.

Adelaide, Perth, Mariners, Roar, Jets and Wanderers all won silverware without marquee strikers.

Not arguing we should be signing a marquee striker, but it’s certainly not essential for success. Mack pointed this out a few weeks ago - concede the fewest goals, you’ll probably win it

[Burztur]

32 minutes ago, Upthehill said:

Adelaide, Perth, Mariners, Roar, Jets and Wanderers all won silverware without marquee strikers.

Not arguing we should be signing a marquee striker, but it’s certainly not essential for success. Mack pointed this out a few weeks ago - concede the fewest goals, you’ll probably win it

It’s the old saying isn’t it? Defences win titles.

[Hughesy]

I just hope that with our academy we don’t become the Eels of the aleague where all of our juniors are winning games/trophies - with opposition teams...

[wswnick]

 

[Davo]

I’m all about giving youth a chance but that pretty much says the less youth you play the higher up the table you finish.

[ZachMercer]

41 minutes ago, wswnick said:

 

Would love to know what percentage of players from all those combined minutes originated from the western suburbs?

[Taurus]

Vast majority I'd say.

How long do they have to be within our academy? Some players have been with us for more than 3 years 

Not surprisingly given our relatively humble beginnings, most of the youth have come to us from established NPL clubs.

Tass - Olympic, Tate - Wollongong, Baccus - Blacktown, Grozos - Sutherland, Suman - Nepean & SU58, Monge & Wilmering - Marconi, Cordier - Manly, Majok - Mt Druitt

[Upthehill]

1 hour ago, Davo said:

I’m all about giving youth a chance but that pretty much says the less youth you play the higher up the table you finish.

Yeah it kind of flies in the face of the FB mouth breathers who bemoan every signing of a bloke who’s played at another Aleague club and is over 28.

 

“GiVe A yOuNgStEr A gO” - mate we’ve played a youth player in literally every position in the last 12 months and have them starting every single game. Apparently it’s not enough for some.

In the end, we want titles now. If those players are from dads army - fine. If it’s Mo Adam - fine. The team starting every week should be the 11 players most suited to success.

[Davo]

 

[SteveB]

13 minutes ago, Davo said:

 

Great to see Aussie Pat running even if it was only a light jog!

Didn't see Vedran in any of the footage, anyone have any inside knowledge of what's happening with him?

[Davo]

2 minutes ago, SteveB said:

Great to see Aussie Pat running even if it was only a light jog!

Didn't see Vedran in any of the footage, anyone have any inside knowledge of what's happening with him?

He was so far out of the penalty area he wasn't in the camera shot.

[Taurus]

19 minutes ago, Davo said:

He was so far out of the penalty area he wasn't in the camera shot.

Snake & Nizic both absent in that footage. Getting the treatment?

[SteveB]

43 minutes ago, Taurus said:

Snake & Nizic both absent in that footage. Getting the treatment?

 

 

[mack]

Vedran is irrelevant. With or without an injury.

[SteveB]

6 minutes ago, mack said:

Vedran is irrelevant. With or without an injury.

Unlikely to be moving on though if injured long term? Hope we can at least offload Nizic to free up a bit of cap space...

[Burztur]

How does the injury replacement rule work? Can we offload an injured player or get a replacement?

[RedBlackOle]

4 minutes ago, Burztur said:

How does the injury replacement rule work? Can we offload an injured player or get a replacement?

And can we get a replacement in a different position 

[Erebus]

Must be getting his shoulder surgery. Hard to offload him now. Takes him to end of the year. Might be able to get rid of him in Jan if not before.

[Beer]

Neville has been released by the Glory. 

I’d take him back in a heartbeat for the right price. Have him and Tate alternate throughout the season.