Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Stokz said: You look at most of the clubs in Europe, if an academy player is signed to professional contract, they will do a communication about it. It's really just about keeping the fans informed. That's all WSW did, not a big hoo hah about signing an excellent prospect to a longer term deal. Precisely, celebrate our new signings according to their status within the squad. We don't need the Harbour Bridge in the background to announce an average new signing. These lads are signing their 1st scholarship (pro) contract & commencing a big adventure whilst doing something they excel at. We hope to see them ply their trade on bigger stages than the AL going forward. Btw, did anyone note the level of background material & the various contributions that made the article feel as if it had depth & meaning & one which would resonate with a thirsty for information supporter base? Prydzopolis, LeeMarvin, Edinburgh and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, sonar said: Mo Adam playing against the reigning Premiers........,.comes from the bench to score the opening goal and sends in the pass for the second......there's the correlation right there. His hustle in the first couple of minutes led to 2 or 3 turnovers, which we didn't take advantage of, but, it put us back on the front foot & gave Mo confidence & allowed him to make full use of the space that he was later afforded (rookie error Perth) in & around the top of the box. Boom, two cracking shots, one curling into the top right corner is saved, however, the other a low drive off his 'weaker' left peg had Reddy rooted to the spot & busts the onion bag to our obvious delight. What about the cross to Kamau for the 2nd goal. Mo put the ball into the channel of uncertainty & found Reddy wasn't committed to getting his body behind the ball, code for not prepared to put them on the line so early in the season. A simple tap in for Kwame was the result of what can only be described as, an instinctive goal scorers cross. That debut will take some topping this season. MistahCampoy, Edinburgh, sonar and 6 others 9 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Ossified said: Taurus are you able to throw some light on Kosta's Perth injury, is it a 2 to 3 game knock or more serious than that? I was told on the morning after the game by 2 team mates that he will be ok. I'll make some enquires over the weekend, but I suspect the club are becoming more attuned to what supporters desire to know about injury players & will probably put out a short statement in next couple of business days. StringerBellend, Prydzopolis, WSW27 and 5 others 8 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, SteveB said: Assuming you mean Emmanuel Rivière? https://www.transfermarkt.com/emmanuel-riviere/profil/spieler/61637 I wouldn't object to him SteveB, Prydzopolis and Edinburgh 3 Link to comment
Prydzopolis Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 08/08/2019 at 5:38 PM, hughsey said: I tend to agree. As someone who works in the rehab/S+C field I am a little perplexed as to why he is still being wrapped in cotton wool when he’s had such a long recovery time already. I think it’s important not to jump to any conclusions so early in preseason. The deadwood in our medical team were moved on, the new team would formulate the best way to get the player 100% for the start of the season & there would be a plan for the player. From a conservative perspective I don’t see what’s the issue with in a slow introduction back especially with such a long preseason. Yes, you need game time under your belt but no reason why he couldn’t have a shorter preseason (6 weeks if he started at the beginning of September) & not be in top physical condition. In Australia we have a long preseason (4.5 months) but this doesn’t mean you need to have 4.5 months in order to be successfully conditioned. I’d say that our poor season fitness & injury wise came down to our S+C guy who clearly was out of his depth. Unless we hear something out of the club, I don’t think we should jump to conclusions about Aussie pat. Paul01 and sonar 2 Link to comment
wswnick Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Taurus said: His hustle in the first couple of minutes led to 2 or 3 turnovers, which we didn't take advantage of, but, it put us back on the front foot & gave Mo confidence & allowed him to make full use of the space that he was later afforded (rookie error Perth) in & around the top of the box. Boom, two cracking shots, one curling into the top right corner is saved, however, the other a low drive off his 'weaker' left peg had Reddy rooted to the spot & busts the onion bag to our obvious delight. What about the cross to Kamau for the 2nd goal. Mo put the ball into the channel of uncertainty & found Reddy wasn't committed to getting his body behind the ball code for not prepared to put them on the line so early in the season. A simple tap in for Kwame was the result of what can only be described as, an instinctive goal scorers cross. That debut will take some topping this season. Big upgrade on Majok jackyboyc, Prydzopolis, DCWSW and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Both good lads, Mo appears the more gifted Paul01, DCWSW, StringerBellend and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Zakman said: I guess I am looking for a direct correlation between having a whiz bang Academy and promoting youth and it leading to results on the field. I don't want to, on the way home from a loss, talk about how the young guys tried their best but outplayed by classier opposition. I will not be consoled by "WSW is playing a critical role in their development and should be proud" - this is great for them and their families but how will this benefit the fans in the terraces - that's the clarification I am looking for. The ladder never lies or does it? Do yourselves a favour a spend 5 minutes reading this cracking indepth article https://engineering.footballradar.com/does-the-league-table-lie/ Paul01, Unlimited, Prydzopolis and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Zakman said: Have to admit that you guys have put me on the road to seeing youth promotion in a more positive light. I guess the team's performance this season will be the final determinant! This season we will be top 4, without a shadow of a doubt. If we jag a marquee #9 that can find the target & potentially one more quality local signing, we should be aiming for the summit. If stability returns, we could win multiple titles in the next decade Prydzopolis, StringerBellend, HillsWanderer and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Given we've been discussing our academy in this thread of recent, I may leave this here. It emphasises just how important the investment that was made by our ownership group in partnership with the local council has been & will continue to be long into the future. We are the envy of the other AL clubs https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/urgent-and-immediate-action-needed-to-produce-top-talent-warns-new-ffa-technical-chief?fbclid=IwAR3qVDXrYNfeiT6PTlFJorQwBEujGItjy4DYlPZQWAJSAo2e8EY_hvBHezU FFA’s new technical director Rob Sherman has warned that “unless urgent and immediate action is taken” the decline in Australia’s ability to produce top talent will become irreversible. BY DAVE LEWIS The size of the task facing Sherman as he bids to spearhead a resurgence in paving pathways for emerging generations was laid bare on Monday as Australia’s U-15s crashed out of the AFC Championship at the group stage. A 3-0 loss to Malaysia and a 1-1 draw with hosts Thailand demonstrated how south-east Asia is now able to eclipse Australia thanks to a level of financial investment Sherman can only dream of.While coach Trevor Morgan’s Joeys have qualified for November’s U-17 FIFA World Cup in Brazil, lack of international and club exposure for Australian kids over the past decade, coupled with funding failures, has turned the talent pipeline into a trickle. Just over two months into the role, Welshman Sherman - who helped develop his country’s golden generation stars Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey and Joe Ledley - is looking for a radical shift of focus to tackle what he’s identified as the most pressing issue facing the Australian game “If our clubs are prepared to invest in youth development (through their academy systems) then we need to do everything possible as a game to help them make the best of that investment,” Sherman told The World Game. “My perspective hasn’t changed since I took the role on - youth development is the biggest priority. “Things have fallen behind and there’s a real need to address that. “Unless urgent and immediate action is taken we won’t be able to reverse the decline. “There is data that the PFA put together about the number of players from Australia in the early 2000‘s who were playing in the higher leagues around the world. “You compare that to the today and the numbers have diminished quite significantly. “There’s been a hiatus here for quite some time whilst the traditional countries and the emerging nations have been accelerating. “Countries like Malaysia, and others in that region, are making up ground fast which we saw with the result against us the other week. “South-east Asia, in particular, is investing and improving and we also need to invest and improve, even if we don’t go the exact same route.” Lack of game time from the crucial age of 17 and upwards is seen by Sherman as a critical flaw in Australia’s development structure, with the eight games at NYL level light years away from being adequate. He’s in favour of a second tier competition, in whatever form it might ultimately take, providing a credible stepping stone to the A-League. “Players of 17 and above need to accrue senior games and be part of a competition structure that allows that to happen,” he added. “That would preferably be within the club systems where they have been developed. “The data shows that players in those age groups (elsewhere) accrue up to 75 games at a lower level (before higher tier opportunities). “The A-League itself is a fantastic steppingstone and a second tier could be a fantastic means to provide a steppingstone for clubs to aspire to and also to expose players to that senior level.” Starved of resources, Australia’s underage teams have been bereft of the domestic camps and tournament competition Sherman says would provide an X-factor in their development. “In essence; you don’t want to build international programs around the cycles of qualification,” he added. “You want them playing every year regardless of the cycle. It’s an expensive operation in Australia because of the travel component. “In Wales, for instance, I’d have the U-15s and 16s travel 100km and I had still enough money left over to play 10 games. “If you look at the perspective of Australia Inc, there must be ways in which the business community and the government could look at leveraging football with youth tournaments and the like as a means to encourage business opportunities. “Asia speaks the language of football and we might be able to create some partnerships and tie-ups with our Asian neighbours (to deliver competition football outside recognised AFC tournaments). “If all the ducks can be put in the right row for the benefit of the nation I can see round of 16 or quarter-finals for the men at World Cups and finals for the women. “Just think what that would do for the game generally! “The reality though is that I will probably be sipping through a straw before we see many other benefits. "That’s the problem with youth development: it’s a long-term project. “People sometimes look at something two years after its initiation and say ‘oh it doesn’t work’ but the real beneficiaries are still relatively young and it takes time. “That's where you have to be really clever and determined in what you’re doing. And to see things through. “We need to get everybody going the same direction. That’s possibly the biggest challenge.” MistahCampoy, Burztur, Edinburgh and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, wswnick said: Big upgrade on Majok Thoughts on Mo v's Sotirio? SBW, randy81, Prydzopolis and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Jefski Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Taurus said: Thoughts on Mo v's Sotirio? Still a little too early to make comment or judgement on that. Mo vs Majok is a no brainer. Mo's first touch had him streets ahead. Link to comment
Jefski Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Taurus said: If we jag a marquee #9 that can find the target & potentially one more quality local signing, we should be aiming for the summit. "IF?", this is the million dollar question. I'm sure the club's not done with signings yet but it now comes down to player availability (leftovers), choice and the almighty dollar. wendybr 1 Link to comment
iamwesternsydney Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jefski said: "IF?", this is the million dollar question. I'm sure the club's not done with signings yet but it now comes down to player availability (leftovers), choice and the almighty dollar. UK are closed so we just have to wait for rest of Europe. No rush because early doesn't always equate to great on the field! Edited August 9, 2019 by iamwesternsydney adding Jefski, StringerBellend and Paul01 3 Link to comment
LeeMarvin Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 17 hours ago, SteveB said: Assuming you mean Emmanuel Rivière? https://www.transfermarkt.com/emmanuel-riviere/profil/spieler/61637 He has Kamau's hair style. Or maybe it is the other way around. Link to comment
LeeMarvin Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Taurus said: Thoughts on Mo v's Sotirio? Is this what they call trolling? Taurus, Prydzopolis and StringerBellend 1 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Taurus said: Thoughts on Mo v's Sotirio? One has a football brain and the other doesn’t Link to comment
tyson Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Times are changing at our club with limited contracts on offer now , and with lots of talented players yet to secure there future , Managers would be working overtime to try and prolong there clients careers, just by delaying an offer could prove costly now , History shows that smart coaches know the games played and run out of patience because players for whatever reason don,t agree , the secret to a long career is to not do things that harm it , delay now and you might find the contract on offer has gone , and you mite have to realise you made a mistake ,because the club just moved on with out you , there comes a time to settle down and play the game you love , new stadium , new training setup, new improved coaches, new season, new direction, the rbb leading the way in the stands ,what more could a player want , trophies well come and earn them with a club that cares for you, WanderingToqui 1 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 @FCB may be onto something. Nek Minnit, SMH post an article linking Kyle Lafferty to WSW, on the basis of a liked tweet Daniel Carr @danieljcarrr Replying to @Wandererstragic @robvad10 and 3 others 12:28 PM · Aug 10, 2019·Twitter for Android MistahCampoy and Prydzopolis 2 Link to comment
SteveB Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Taurus said: @FCB may be onto something. Nek Minnit, SMH post an article linking Kyle Lafferty to WSW, on the basis of a liked tweet Daniel Carr @danieljcarrr Replying to @Wandererstragic @robvad10 and 3 others 12:28 PM · Aug 10, 2019·Twitter for Android Not sure whether Babbel will accept this: In a frank interview, Lafferty attributed his Rangers downfall to his lack of intensity in training. “I will be the first to hold my hand up and admit I’m not the best trainer,” he said. “My performances in training and in games are night and day. The manager has judged me in training and clearly that’s prevented me getting more games.” https://www.scotsman.com/sport/opinion/what-next-for-ex-rangers-striker-kyle-lafferty-and-jason-cummings-returns-to-hearts-and-hibs-1-4978155 Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Taurus Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Notts Forest hey, do we have any connection with them? https://www.transfermarkt.com/jason-cummings/profil/spieler/209583 Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
MartinTyler Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Taurus said: Notts Forest hey, do we have any connection with them? https://www.transfermarkt.com/jason-cummings/profil/spieler/209583 Cummings may also not have the work ethic required under Babbel Link to comment
TwoLeftFoots Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Would Cummings be an Aussie player ? Or fall into the same category as Ziegler? Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, SteveB said: Not sure whether Babbel will accept this: In a frank interview, Lafferty attributed his Rangers downfall to his lack of intensity in training. “I will be the first to hold my hand up and admit I’m not the best trainer,” he said. “My performances in training and in games are night and day. The manager has judged me in training and clearly that’s prevented me getting more games.” https://www.scotsman.com/sport/opinion/what-next-for-ex-rangers-striker-kyle-lafferty-and-jason-cummings-returns-to-hearts-and-hibs-1-4978155 Even if he trains like Pio and acts like Bulut: as long as he gives it all on the pitch (MB requirement) and scores a sack full of goals in the process no one will complain. Edited August 10, 2019 by FCB Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
mack Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, TwoLeftFoots said: Would Cummings be an Aussie player ? Or fall into the same category as Ziegler? I don't think so. It seems like only his grandparents (or one of them) were Australian, and I don't think that even qualifies you for an Australian citizenship. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
ZachMercer Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 hours ago, LeeMarvin said: He has Kamau's hair style. Or maybe it is the other way around. Other than hairstyle, what's wrong with this guy. He's impressive on paper. Prydzopolis 1 Link to comment
Upthehill Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mack said: I don't think so. It seems like only his grandparents (or one of them) were Australian, and I don't think that even qualifies you for an Australian citizenship. It doesn’t. Required to have a parent born in Australia, from memory they can’t even just be nationalised. So even if his parents got their citizenship, it doesn’t mean he can automatically apply. But even if that were the case, you’re looking at years to get it all done mack 1 Link to comment
Paul01 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ZachMercer said: Other than hairstyle, what's wrong with this guy. He's impressive on paper. But he needs to impressive on a football pitch Link to comment
WHACKO Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, FCB said: Even if he trains like Pio and acts like Bulut: He won't get on the pitch. matty 1 Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WHACKO said: He won't get on the pitch. Maybe, but he does take a good photo, apparently... https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/3375561/rangers-kyle-lafferty-snapchat-scandal-burnley-wife-vanessa-penis-pics-gambling-addiction/ That's almost as good as Carney moon-ing the Eastern terrace back in his Jets days. Edited August 10, 2019 by FCB Link to comment
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