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10 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

What a class guy. I think most of us really wanted it to work (apart from a couple of point scorers).. 

Don't think I ever seen a sacked (or mutually terminated manager) make such a speech, he clearly bought into the club and the League.

I'm totally at a loss as to why it didn't work, but it didn't.

 

I wanted him to succeed just as much as you mate. 

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“It is unfortunate that we have needed to take this course of action because we have a great relationship with Markus,” said Wanderers Chairman Paul Lederer.

“However we firmly believe that we have a great squad and the results are most definitely not reflective of the ability of the players at this club and certainly do not reflect the aspirations of the Western Sydney Wanderers Football Club. 

“We have total faith in the group of players here at the Wanderers and look forward to pushing on with renewed vigour towards the finals series.”

I’m usually a staunch defender of the club and Lederer but this is an absolute shitshow.

Half of our starting line up are lazy and some just plain useless. I have zero faith in these particular players no matter who is in charge of them.

To sack a manager and not have someone in mind or a clear plan is laughable. We have officially become one of those small mentality clubs that jump from manager to manager every 12-18 months. How embarrassing. 

What a sad day for what is a much greater club than this...

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2 minutes ago, hughsey said:

“It is unfortunate that we have needed to take this course of action because we have a great relationship with Markus,” said Wanderers Chairman Paul Lederer.

“However we firmly believe that we have a great squad and the results are most definitely not reflective of the ability of the players at this club and certainly do not reflect the aspirations of the Western Sydney Wanderers Football Club. 

“We have total faith in the group of players here at the Wanderers and look forward to pushing on with renewed vigour towards the finals series.”

I’m usually a staunch defender of the club and Lederer but this is an absolute shitshow.

Half of our starting line up are lazy and some just plain useless. I have zero faith in these particular players no matter who is in charge of them.

To sack a manager and not have someone in mind or a clear plan is laughable. We have officially become one of those small mentality clubs that jump from manager to manager every 12-18 months. How embarrassing. 

What a sad day for what is a much greater club than this...

@mathyouwsw u reckon he's a clown too

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19 minutes ago, Burgerman said:

Piss weak press conference and JT is a corporate scrooge and I can't see JP staying on

i agree about JT but curious do you expect JP to get fired or move onto somewhere else?

i actually dont know how long he has on his contract as assistant coach or if him being caretaker coach changes anything in his contract

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21 minutes ago, hughsey said:

“It is unfortunate that we have needed to take this course of action because we have a great relationship with Markus,” said Wanderers Chairman Paul Lederer.

“However we firmly believe that we have a great squad and the results are most definitely not reflective of the ability of the players at this club and certainly do not reflect the aspirations of the Western Sydney Wanderers Football Club. 

“We have total faith in the group of players here at the Wanderers and look forward to pushing on with renewed vigour towards the finals series.”

I’m usually a staunch defender of the club and Lederer but this is an absolute shitshow.

Half of our starting line up are lazy and some just plain useless. I have zero faith in these particular players no matter who is in charge of them.

To sack a manager and not have someone in mind or a clear plan is laughable. We have officially become one of those small mentality clubs that jump from manager to manager every 12-18 months. How embarrassing. 

What a sad day for what is a much greater club than this...

I actually disagree that the players are lazy....  Certainly last night!

I have a quite different perspective on last night's game than I've read on here and other places.  I thought that for a team low on confidence with some regulars out, no striker and one (at least) returning from injury we actually did pretty well against a top three team, reigning premiers and one of the best attacks of the A League.  Forneroli has been one of the success stories of the A League - he's been a little slower getting going this year but still banging in some good goals and doesn't need much space.  Castro is still one of the top couple of A League players and could get a start in any team.  These two run rings around teams but were kept pretty quiet last night.  Forneroli was reduced to diving, falling and living up to his moniker, Fakeroli.  He was pathetic and sucked the ref in a few times.  Castro ran backwards more often than not. McGowan/Elrich worked hard on Forneroli (except for one slip up and a soft goal). Zeigler and Schwegler kept Castro relatively quiet.  Jurman kept Chianese under control.  This was an adjustment in style and set up and it largely worked (except for a soft goal).  Lopar hardly raised a sweat on a muggy night.

We didn't have the class up front but moving to a front 2 with Duke and Yeboah looked much better.  Duke and Muller had freedom to move around and Kamau (he frustrates the hell out of me normally) I thought was pretty good.  He and Elrich kept Meredith relatively under control - he tore up Jets and has been pretty good.  We also weren't overrun in the midfield.

For me, the players do put in but are sometimes clueless about what to do - the much-vaunted lack of a plan (thought I saw one last night).  I still reckon our problems come from not having the front man who can make the right runs and finish, so there is nowhere for the ball to go up front.  Perth sat back and went into the old Popa style kick long and run - very different from how they've been playing and I suggest that at least part of this was we actually played alright.  There have been a few games where we've played alright but without the right person up front to make the right run, get that last ball and finish, we have not had anywhere to go and have to retreat.

I think we often assume introverted players who are not outwardly demonstrable are lazy, disinterested and don't want to be part of the team.  Perhaps they are just internalizing their responses and trying make it work.  Not everyone has the outward demonstrable stuff of Georgevski or Zeigler. 

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Not too happy with JP but what are the options? 
Good coaches won’t take in an interim role, and is it worth risking an unknown one? 
 

It will be fascinating to see his lineup against mariners. Will he put on the same 11, meaning he was the driving force all along (and has no clue), or does he have a different concept? 

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I think we are all in agreement as much as we like Babbel's pressers and the bright start to the season it really has fallen apart, but we have a number of players that are under performing and yesterday was no different. Jurman since our first bye has been suspect, Mcgowan has been patchy, Schwegler defensively still sound but in possession very suspect as the weeks have gone by but the biggest issue by far is our attackers.

Duke seems to be trying to do it on his own and doesn't link up as well as when we had started the season. You have Muller who has gotten better as the season has gone but again doesn't link up well but the times he has often there is opportunity for us to score and then the biggest problem is Yeboah. Now I like Yeboah but geez he is having a shocking season  his confidence is down he is frustrated and it shows. before the injury he was leading the line for us but ever since the injury he hasn't looked himself.

The problems are far deeper than just the coach we have squad that is grossly under performing

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Sad day now the pressure and blowtorch turn firmly on the players.

Mitch Duke was on Fox Sports news, says players take the blame and need to be better. 

If they can't be then JT should hand in his resignation season end.

Babbel was a great character, but ultimately he knows the business, his faults were maybe be too loyal to some players who let him down and inability to cut out the same mundane football.

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1 minute ago, Taurus said:

You jest? He was on the ball, must have had intel

do you really have to be a jerk too? its bad enough ******* turner is being a dick but i do kinda expect it from you while turner less so because turner has shown himself to be a decent human from time to time

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Replying to @wswanderersfc
Goodbye Marcus, we shall miss your humble & open nature. From day 1 on the job, on which you attended an NPL2 game at Edensor Park, you encouraged myself & others to believe that you had the club's best interests at heart & you would give your all to achieve results. #Tops
 
 
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1 minute ago, Neverbloom said:

do you really have to be a jerk too? its bad enough ******* turner is being a dick but i do kinda expect it from you while turner less so because turner has shown himself to be a decent human from time to time

Oh my.

Cry me a river Goat

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5 hours ago, Smoggy said:

Inevitable sadly. I really dont know what Babbel was trying to achieve though :unknw: How to sum up his tenure?

A waste of time?

4 hours ago, beatsurrender said:

Anyone else a bit concerned with Lederer's comments regarding the players? Apparently we have an excellent squad and he has total faith in them. Well I reckon we have a squad lacking in depth and creativity, but that's just me.

Starting to think what Lederer knows about football you could write on the back of a postage stamp and still have room for The Gettysburg Address.  

Lederer isn't going to come out and slag the playing squad whilst they are still in the team, it won't help. And I can almost guarantee you Lederer knows sweet FA about the game in any detail relevant to being a successful club on the pitch.

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