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Sooooo.. how's the contact tracing app working out? Don't hear much about that these days after the big launch.

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2 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

Sooooo.. how's the contact tracing app working out? Don't hear much about that these days after the big launch.

#Scottysappisnogood

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I got tested today. Pretty confident just a cold but I was sneezing like buggery yesterday so I couldn't rock up to work like that. 

 

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1 hour ago, marron said:

I got tested today. Pretty confident just a cold but I was sneezing like buggery yesterday so I couldn't rock up to work like that. 

 

Half my Yr 11 class was sneezing or sniffling today. One who sneezed twice without attempting to cover his face was handed a mask by another kid.

Last week it was half my Yr 12 class....but they mainly wear masks every day.

Sigh.

I don't like this new world, in which we pay attention to everyone who coughs or sneezes in our vacinity. It's necessary to do so, but it's horrible.

:(:(

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On 29/06/2020 at 2:07 PM, Midfielder said:

To me this is extreme... As far as I know it all teams are in a bubble and fly by private jet...

Interestingly, it goes to the heart of federation... we are actually a number of independent colonies who agreed to have a common national government ... it seems any state can actually determine many rules applying to them meany believed were in the power of the federal government .... 

I post this bit and it has nothing to do with labour / Libs... I find the inability of the federal government to set policy on a number of issues  remarkable and something I am now only aware... These are actually watershed moments in our history... essentially boiled down we are similar to the EU its just we have refined much better than the EU the power of the federal Parliament better than the EU... 

I like it, that the federal govt doesn't get to call the shots. It has been a bit of lesson for all, I think.

PS I dont blame Covid free states for wanting to keep themselves  that way.

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20 minutes ago, wendybr said:

I like it, that the federal govt doesn't get to call the shots. It has beed a bit of lesson for all, I think.

PS I dont blame Covid free states for wanting to keep themselves  that way.

I don't blame the states neither its just my understanding was all the players are flown by private jet, and stay in hubs... maybe my understanding on the player arrangements is wrong.

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7 minutes ago, Midfielder said:

I don't blame the states neither its just my understanding was all the players are flown by private jet, and stay in hubs... maybe my understanding on the player arrangements is wrong.

I would have thought that that was what they were doing too. It was at the start, I think??

Or was that what the NRL is doing?

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ABC just reported another 64 cases in Victoria. I don't think there will any football games in Victoria. 

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New strain of flu found in China with pandemic potential - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53218704 its called G4 EA H1N1 It from pigs like the last swine flu.

I guess the good news is that vaccines for flu variants are easier to develop than a covid type virus The flu mutates every year and a new vaccine is developed. 

Last thing we need though.

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22 hours ago, marron said:

I got tested today. Pretty confident just a cold but I was sneezing like buggery yesterday so I couldn't rock up to work like that. 

 

 

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On 29/06/2020 at 6:43 PM, Smoggy said:

Sooooo.. how's the contact tracing app working out? Don't hear much about that these days after the big launch.

Interestingly enough that I had no connections in the app in the last 48 hours yet I’ve been to the gym, shops & even service NSW (absolutely zero distancing, 4sm or masks :shok:)

The COVID-19 exposure logging o/s doesn’t recognize COVIDSafe as an approved or active app. Perhaps the app is too far in the background for it to work? Initially it only worked if the app was on screen & phone unlocked, apparently there were some further updates which fixed it? Apparently not?

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10 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

Interestingly enough that I had no connections in the app in the last 48 hours yet I’ve been to the gym, shops & even service NSW (absolutely zero distancing, 4sm or masks :shok:)

The COVID-19 exposure logging o/s doesn’t recognize COVIDSafe as an approved or active app. Perhaps the app is too far in the background for it to work? Initially it only worked if the app was on screen & phone unlocked, apparently there were some further updates which fixed it? Apparently not?

Or maybe it is just a crock of shyte.

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11 hours ago, Prydzopolis said:

Interestingly enough that I had no connections in the app in the last 48 hours yet I’ve been to the gym, shops & even service NSW (absolutely zero distancing, 4sm or masks :shok:)

The COVID-19 exposure logging o/s doesn’t recognize COVIDSafe as an approved or active app. Perhaps the app is too far in the background for it to work? Initially it only worked if the app was on screen & phone unlocked, apparently there were some further updates which fixed it? Apparently not?

From that article posted previously, apparently the COVIDSafe app is the approved app for Australia but they haven't implemented the update to the app to have it work with the exposure logging system. In theory the app is still logging the interactions with other people, it's just stored exclusively in the app at the moment.

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On 29/06/2020 at 9:49 PM, marron said:

I got tested today. Pretty confident just a cold but I was sneezing like buggery yesterday so I couldn't rock up to work like that. 

 

Not fun shoving that thing into your brain, i had to do it just to see an orthopaedic surgery trauma specialist who was so strict when seeing him he was dressed as a storm trooper basically but is a good bloke and had a good laugh about it. Funny i asked him about the app and yeah he wasn't impressed and hinted at not trusting the privacy and he knew about the fact our government overlooked aus companies questioning the motives. 

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This virus isn't slowing down.

The current 24 hour period using GMT has new cases of almost 203,000 and counting .....  The first over 200k.

The USA has their highest with over 52k. And I think Brazil's highest of 48k.

The worldwide total is just a few thousand under 11 million.

At least the death rate is dropping. It got as high as 21% of closed cases and is now down to 8%. Maybe they're getting better at treatment.

While the sheer numbers are significant and often reported on, the per capita infection rates and death rates also tell a story. The highest death rate is in Belgium with 842 per million. Compared to UK 648 and USA 397 for example.

The highest infection rate is Qatar with 34,866 per million. The next with populations in the millions are Bahrain 16,367 and Chile 14,885 and Kuwait 11,207.

Of course, the statistics are affected by testing rates and the accuracy of recording and reporting.

 

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1 hour ago, Edinburgh said:

This virus isn't slowing down.

The current 24 hour period using GMT has new cases of almost 203,000 and counting .....  The first over 200k.

The USA has their highest with over 52k. And I think Brazil's highest of 48k.

The worldwide total is just a few thousand under 11 million.

At least the death rate is dropping. It got as high as 21% of closed cases and is now down to 8%. Maybe they're getting better at treatment.

While the sheer numbers are significant and often reported on, the per capita infection rates and death rates also tell a story. The highest death rate is in Belgium with 842 per million. Compared to UK 648 and USA 397 for example.

The highest infection rate is Qatar with 34,866 per million. The next with populations in the millions are Bahrain 16,367 and Chile 14,885 and Kuwait 11,207.

Of course, the statistics are affected by testing rates and the accuracy of recording and reporting.

 

One of the main reasons it's not slowing is that some of the most populous nations on earth - USA, Brasil, India - are on the rise. That's nearly 2 billion people just from those three countries.

India was always going to be a problem, as were other countries with a high degree of poverty and/or poor areas. But the way the leaders of the US and Brasil have treated this thing is nothing short of disgraceful.

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1 hour ago, Edinburgh said:

The highest death rate is in Belgium

Belgium were more fair dinkum with their numbers. They reported deaths in nursing homes. Most countries didn't count these deaths in their covid-19 death toll

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On 11/04/2020 at 2:31 PM, Prydzopolis said:

Outlines the difficulties the NRL will face in order to get the competition off the ground

Came here to discuss/see the latest re: Vic outbreak etc., my "last read page" included this from Merciades. I recall saying at the time that she was using the US virus situation to poo-poo Australian sports trying to get off the ground.

She's such a negative, antagonistic person who is always looking at the downside.

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On 29/06/2020 at 2:07 PM, Midfielder said:

Interestingly, it goes to the heart of federation... we are actually a number of independent colonies who agreed to have a common national government ... it seems any state can actually determine many rules applying to them meany believed were in the power of the federal government .... 

I post this bit and it has nothing to do with labour / Libs... I find the inability of the federal government to set policy on a number of issues  remarkable and something I am now only aware... These are actually watershed moments in our history... essentially boiled down we are similar to the EU its just we have refined much better than the EU the power of the federal Parliament better than the EU... 

It's pretty clearly set out in the Constitution the exclusive and concurrent powers the Federal Government (Commonwealth) has. Maybe check it out.

The states retain legislative powers over matters not specifically listed in the Constitution. 

This sort of stuff really needs to be taught better in schools. If it was, we wouldn't have these "many people" being surprised over something that literally underpins our entire country. It's not something that's just been decided in the past couple of years. We're talking 1901 here. 

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1 hour ago, Midfielder said:

Starting to think we should close our boarder with Victoria ... 

Firstly - border**

Secondly - Closing the border isn't a simple process and would have devastating impacts for border towns like Albury-Wodonga. The closure up on the Tweed border has had terrible repercussions for a lot of the population up there. Also, it isn't air tight. You can still move across the border on foot and there's also plenty of back roads still open for those in 4WD's. The border to the ACT has also been open this entire time and there hasn't been any spread from NSW into there. Just because there's a border closure, doesn't mean we're going to be better off. 

Finally - That isn't what your good mate ScoMo wants. It's apparently completely fine for the borders to be open. Shouldn't we trust what ScoMo says because according to you, he's just taking advice from his experts? 

To be clear, I don't care one way or another about the border. It won't affect me directly. But I find it hypocritical that we (on the forum) were scolded for saying schools should remain closed and branded one-eyed lefties because ScoMo's experts said it was safe. Now we've got a situation where ScoMo is saying having the borders open is safe, and it seems like the shoe is on the other foot. 

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10 hours ago, btron3000 said:

Came here to discuss/see the latest re: Vic outbreak etc., my "last read page" included this from Merciades. I recall saying at the time that she was using the US virus situation to poo-poo Australian sports trying to get off the ground.

She's such a negative, antagonistic person who is always looking at the downside.

It was written at the height of the pandemic when it looked like a lot more people were going to be infected & deaths too. We really dodged a bullet when you see what is happening elsewhere in the world.

11 hours ago, Edinburgh said:

This virus isn't slowing down.

Just when you think you’ve got on top of it & think the worst is over, it now comes back with a vengeance

9 hours ago, Midfielder said:

Starting to think we should close our boarder with Victoria ... 

Victoria have had a lot of stuff happened with the quarantine that is partially responsible for the outbreak. The Victorian CHO was saying that all the cases are related to the same genetic strain making it likely that Victoria have a super spreader.

I just think how lucky we are in NSW that we aren’t in a similar situation. Social distancing is non-existent, mask wearing in crowded areas is non-existent & I think we are so fortunate that we haven’t had an outbreak of our own yet 

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11 hours ago, CaptainJess said:

 

Finally - That isn't what your good mate ScoMo wants. It's apparently completely fine for the borders to be open. Shouldn't we trust what ScoMo says because according to you, he's just taking advice from his experts? 

 

hHHHHHmmmmm my good mate .... wow .... have you read the climate change thread ....

I am sorry if I call things as I see them and to date all governments in Australia have done a remarkable job ....

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Midfielder said:

hHHHHHmmmmm my good mate .... wow .... have you read the climate change thread ....

I am sorry if I call things as I see them and to date all governments in Australia have done a remarkable job ....

 

 

 

Yes. You are critical of right wingers in the federal, or that feral, govt when it comes to climate change. And Scumbo (Mr Lump of Coal) is one of those feral nut jobs. 

When it comes to doing a good job, it is because he listened to the advice of the health experts and followed the advice.

Scumbo was still pushing Victoria to open its borders up till last week. He has now gone quiet on this. Here, Scumbo pushed against the clear advice of the best person equipped to give medical advice on a pandemic viz the Chief Medical Officer of Victoria Dr Brett Sutton.

Scumbo is starting to morph toward his true alter ego gRump (currently the most unpopular President of the USA).

 

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