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Counter terrorism squad used to arrest YouTube satirist. Bail conditions include not being able to possess a caricature if the deputy premier or comment on one.

Damn leftists pushing our society more and more towards big government state control oh wait. 

Let me try again.

Damn leftists and their cancel culture oh wait. 

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All jokes aside its scary. At first it looked like incompetence from the Barillaro party with the amatuer way they were handling things. But now with stalking and harrasment they have to Jordan and this now on Kristo (the gatekeeper) whose only 21 years old and studying and hasn't done anything wrong for Barillaro to send a counter terror squad is really alarming. 

Its stinks of a powerplay of a corrupt man using taxpayers money and a special squad not being used for the purposes it is intended. I can't help but match this story with Wanderers fans that have been banned with no reason put forward. The difference of course if Jordies has massive Social media presence so we can see everything that is happening.

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Sounds like he picked a fight and is now crying cause he's got a bloody nose.

He went too far especially with the racist crap he spewed.

You reap what you sow. 

 

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Yeah nah.

Whatever this youtuber did isnt the point.

If you think someone defames you you don't get to call the counter terrorism police and tell them to sic. 

Pollies should never be using their power for themselves. That's messed up. Send a personal lawyer. Raise a complaint like anyone else. You dont get to use the state like your private fiefdom.

I also dont know for certain but would be willing to bet Barillaro professes to love free speech and hate cancel culture. 

All of which makes him a hypocritical grub. 

 

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14 hours ago, Bones said:

Sounds like he picked a fight and is now crying cause he's got a bloody nose.

He went too far especially with the racist crap he spewed.

You reap what you sow. 

 

Yea the issue is that he sent Counter Terrorist Squad to a youtuber's producer home. It wasn't even Jordan Shanks it was his producer.

That is GROSS use of power and needs to be called out because all of a sudden we normalise these things to the point that you can't talk back to anyone. There are even question marks on the defamation as the Jordies hasn't been officially served since the defamation case was filed a month ago. Filing the case and serving are not the same thing.

And technically the producer Kristo who was arrested hasn't done anything wrong either. The two incidents in question are on par to anything a Current affair or the Chaser have previosuly done and don't look like stalking at all. When you have the sexual assault incidents happening in parliament but a pollie is willing to call a counter terrorist squad on youtube because they disagree with him something is REALLY wrong.

Stinks of deputy premier willing to flex his power and state resources on personal vendetta's.

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On 17/06/2021 at 9:07 AM, Sithslayer1991 said:

Yea the issue is that he sent Counter Terrorist Squad to a youtuber's producer home. It wasn't even Jordan Shanks it was his producer.

That is GROSS use of power and needs to be called out because all of a sudden we normalise these things to the point that you can't talk back to anyone. There are even question marks on the defamation as the Jordies hasn't been officially served since the defamation case was filed a month ago. Filing the case and serving are not the same thing.

And technically the producer Kristo who was arrested hasn't done anything wrong either. The two incidents in question are on par to anything a Current affair or the Chaser have previosuly done and don't look like stalking at all. When you have the sexual assault incidents happening in parliament but a pollie is willing to call a counter terrorist squad on youtube because they disagree with him something is REALLY wrong.

Stinks of deputy premier willing to flex his power and state resources on personal vendetta's.

Lol, kinda dramatic but we'll see how it plays out.

Hopefully these tools get what they deserve.

 

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Shame you weren't around 5-6 years ago, Bones (edited my typo there). You'd have had a number of like minded forumites as allies here, as well as a lot more robust debate to engage with.

Has Bruce Pascoe just got carried away with this?

PS I haven't read it.

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12 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Shame you weren't around 5-6 years ago, Jones. You'd have had a number of like minded forumites as allies here, as well as a lot more robust debate to engage with.

Has Bruce Pascoe just got carried away with this?

PS I haven't read it.

I was here 5-6 years ago Wendy. 

The forum was good then.

Bruce Pascoe is full of shite.

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Find me the working academics who have been pushing this anywhere.

FInd me the schools with this on the shelves that have been teaching it as fact.

In that article you've got quotes from historians saying it shouldn't be, inferring it is - but I really strongly doubt that that's happening anywhere.

"Damn lefties messing with kids minds" style propaganda of the "the school made my son wear a dress to make him transgender" sort.

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44 minutes ago, wendybr said:

Has Bruce Pascoe just got carried away with this?

PS I haven't read it.

It's definitely worth the read. The majority of his sources are taken from English writers during the first settlement period.

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35 minutes ago, marron said:

Find me the working academics who have been pushing this anywhere.

FInd me the schools with this on the shelves that have been teaching it as fact.

In that article you've got quotes from historians saying it shouldn't be, inferring it is - but I really strongly doubt that that's happening anywhere.

"Damn lefties messing with kids minds" style propaganda of the "the school made my son wear a dress to make him transgender" sort.

It's ok settle down, no need to bring trannies into it.

Bruce Pascoe is full of Shite. 

 

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Whoever wrote that beat up is more full of ****.

The biggest piece of evidence provided is the academic saying their friends suggested they read it. 

They have confused being in a library with "curriculum", which, holy ****. 

Bullshit like this fans flames based on zero evidence. 

 

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9 hours ago, Bones said:

I was here 5-6 years ago Wendy. 

The forum was good then.

Sorry...yes you were.

But you weren't very active here.

I agree, those were lively and engaging debates back then.

And debating is healthy.

Everything (here and in the wider world) has got even more polarised since then, with less engagement between people with differing perspectives.

That's frightening to me. 

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On 16/06/2021 at 5:58 PM, Bones said:

Sounds like he picked a fight and is now crying cause he's got a bloody nose.

He went too far especially with the racist crap he spewed.

You reap what you sow. 

It's a shame he uses his enjoyment of mimickry (which is basically what he started out with in his comedy/satire- silly voices, wigs and costumes etc) as part of his attacks on Barillaro. That muddies the water somewhat...and he does go too far in quite a bit of what he does imho.

I 100% approve of his going after Barillaro, though, and hope it shines more of a light on his dodgy dealings.

Misuse of his political position in calling in this police unit has raised eyebrows, as it should.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/18/friendlyjordies-arrest-by-nsw-police-fixated-persons-unit-questioned-by-former-top-prosecutor

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10 hours ago, wendybr said:

Shame you weren't around 5-6 years ago, Jones. You'd have had a number of like minded forumites as allies here, as well as a lot more robust debate to engage with.

Has Bruce Pascoe just got carried away with this?

PS I haven't read it.

Firstly, I think your "Jones" is quite funny and somewhat appropriate, intended or not.

Regarding Dark Emu (which I have read) the following is from an Article in the SMH  thurs this week from Ben Wilkie who is a Historian and Honorary associate at the La Trobe University  Centre for the Study of the Inland.

  There is disparate evidence of cultivation, domestication, sowing, storage, surpluses, trade and settlements. The nature of some of these observations and materials continues to be debated, but it’s not disputed that Aboriginal Australians managed their landscape ingeniously and engaged in highly effective food intensification practices. The problem is that extrapolating various practices to the entire continent goes against the very localised nature of Aboriginal ecological knowledge and practice.

 

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What I took out of Dark Emu was changing the perception that Indigenous people were purely hunter gatherers and actually had sophisticated practices to manage the land and local environment, honed over centuries.

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Yeah I haven't read it but that is an important thing.

I reckon that 

a) his claims will have been overstated by parts of the media

b) the criticisms by historians have been overstated by parts of the media (they have clearly been at pains to stress the line that you just did)

and

 

c) certain parts of the media have just made **** up about the book being used in schools.

 

 

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Also, yeah that understanding is really important, not just historically but environmentally, now. Understanding how to look after the ecology of this place is more and more crucial. 

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52 minutes ago, Ossified said:

Firstly, I think your "Jones" is quite funny and somewhat appropriate, intended or not.

Totally unintended, dammit!

Too many rapid-fire posts here over the past few years have made me very sloppy with proof reading. 

 

PS I wouldn't ever do name calling.

:):)

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Some interesting stats here, e.g. attitudes towards having children.

Wonder if more conservative women would shun an ABC survey, which might skew the results away from more conservative/traditional views?

From relationships to home ownership, young women are imagining a different future
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-19/women-are-changing-their-minds-on-home-ownership-marriage/100225976

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PS Yesterday, I was chatting with a 20 something year old guy, who relates strongly to anti-natalism. I'd never heard the word before, but it's a thing!

 

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