BoyFromTheWest Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 No one is more powerful than Popa!!! MistahCampoy 1 Link to comment
Wobblies Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Keithie said: Has it got worse please explain examples of how you think it has got worse Ossified and how Carl and Kenny have caused it When one considers the disjointed previous season with Babel and JPD. Carl and Kenny had a full season to display their wares there should have been a big improvement...there wasn't. sonar, StringerBellend, jockman and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ossified said: When one considers the disjointed previous season with Babel and JPD. Carl and Kenny had a full season to display their wares there should have been a big improvement...there wasn't. I don't know whether that is an indication of CR's coaching limitations or the depth of the club's cultural/mentality failings. I hope it's the latter and CR gets a much better turnaround this coming season. Link to comment
Zelinsky Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ossified said: When one considers the disjointed previous season with Babel and JPD. Carl and Kenny had a full season to display their wares there should have been a big improvement...there wasn't. You are clearly not appreciating the massive improvements that were made in the last season. 8 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 8 9 45 43 +2 35 9 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 6 11 35 40 −5 33 Looking at the figures, it is fairly obvious which one was the MB/JP season, and which one the CR one. Wobblies and THEWANDERERSPOST 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, FCB said: You are clearly not appreciating the massive improvements that were made in the last season. 8 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 8 9 45 43 +2 35 9 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 6 11 35 40 −5 33 Looking at the figures, it is fairly obvious which one was the MB/JP season, and which one the CR one. That's well grim We did manage to score way more goals +10 but we conceded more too another 3 so a +7 turn around in GD earned us two extra draws 12 new players in for that And on our transfer woes this season Antonis - can't blame JT or CR for his leg falling off again Ikonomidis - was always going to Victory we were used to drive the price up Ruka - was that ever more than a tweet from an ex-journo, he wasn't coming back On the positives Williams and Hemed are good signings If Antonis, Ikonomisis and Ruka was the plan it was a pretty high risk and not particularly creative plan EmMac, sonar, Smoggy and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Wobblies Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Edinburgh said: I don't know whether that is an indication of CR's coaching limitations or the depth of the club's cultural/mentality failings. I hope it's the latter and CR gets a much better turnaround this coming season. I think it may be a combination of both and We're all hoping for a big turnaround, many if not all supporters are at their wits end, seriously, how much more of this can loyal supporters take? sonar 1 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, FCB said: You are clearly not appreciating the massive improvements that were made in the last season. 8 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 8 9 45 43 +2 35 9 Western Sydney Wanderers 26 9 6 11 35 40 −5 33 Looking at the figures, it is fairly obvious which one was the MB/JP season, and which one the CR one. But, but 8th out of 12 is so much better than 9th out of 11! Jefski, sonar, THEWANDERERSPOST and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Keithie Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Did you blokes include the cleaner in the list I think he was replaced also . THEWANDERERSPOST, TwoLeftFoots, konsequence and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Edinburgh Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ossified said: I think it may be a combination of both and We're all hoping for a big turnaround, many if not all supporters are at their wits end, seriously, how much more of this can loyal supporters take? I'm not at my wits end so only many supporters. Unless of course my wit is shorter than I think it is. Maybe this post is an indication? Edited July 22, 2021 by Edinburgh wendybr, BoyFromTheWest, sonar and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
sonar Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ossified said: I think it may be a combination of both and We're all hoping for a big turnaround, many if not all supporters are at their wits end, seriously, how much more of this can loyal supporters take? My mehness levels are pretty high at the minute with the squad so far. As pointed out above Hemed and Williams are ok signings. I'm past getting hyped up and would rather see what is delivered on the field when the competition starts then rumours in a squad thread that did or didn't happen. I'm not confident that CR will deliver if last season is a guide but as always it's really a wait and see thing as it is with all teams. Will always be red and black though whatever happens. THEWANDERERSPOST, jockman, LetsPele and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Wanderboy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Ossified said: I think it may be a combination of both and We're all hoping for a big turnaround, many if not all supporters are at their wits end, seriously, how much more of this can loyal supporters take? So, do we auto-renew our memberships and trust them to strengthen the squad, or do we tell them to get ****ed after years of failure? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I said the same thing last season, trusted and had hope that things would turn around. I auto renewed, and was dished up the same old ****. How many years of this shite can we continually be forking out OUR hard earned for.? I'm construction industry, currently stood down, and not eligible for a govt grant to subsidize my substantial loss of income. Well, (substantial to me anyway), to keep me alive and kicking. Yet, I get the generic "auto-renewal" email the other day, stating dates that my account will be debited, yet nothing more than a (we value your continued membership) standard statement, and a last option to opt out. I'm sort of glad that we haven't yet had one of those ******* generic propaganda emails from Lederer or JT so far this off season, that promises success and mentions shite like big club stuff, academy and new stadium, although I suspect one is coming when membership renewals don't reach the numbers that they hope. The place is run by monkeys, and I'm seriously considering not being their banana this season. I'm sick of being chewed up and spat out. Edited July 22, 2021 by Wanderboy wendybr, Unlimited, THEWANDERERSPOST and 5 others 8 Link to comment
WHACKO Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I've also opted out from autopay. The same reason as last season. The uncertainty of if and when the competition will go ahead. I've heard nothing of a starting date from the FFA. Also should we not be able to complete or attend the full amount of games from a membership perspective... where do we stand in regards to the payment that we made. Smoggy, Wobblies and wendybr 3 Link to comment
Smoggy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, Wanderboy said: So, do we auto-renew our memberships and trust them to strengthen the squad, or do we tell them to get ****ed after years of failure? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I said the same thing last season, trusted and had hope that things would turn around. I auto renewed, and was dished up the same old ****. How many years of this shite can we continually be forking out OUR hard earned for.? I'm construction industry, currently stood down, and not eligible for a govt grant to subsidize my substantial loss of income. Well, (substantial to me anyway), to keep me alive and kicking. Yet, I get the generic "auto-renewal" email the other day, stating dates that my account will be debited, yet nothing more than a (we value your continued membership) standard statement, and a last option to opt out. I'm sort of glad that we haven't yet had one of those ******* generic propaganda emails from Lederer or JT so far this off season, that promises success and mentions shite like big club stuff, academy and new stadium, although I suspect one is coming when membership renewals don't reach the numbers that they hope. The place is run by monkeys, and I'm seriously considering not being their banana this season. I'm sick of being chewed up and spat out. Didn’t renew last season and no regrets. It doesn’t make me happy of course, I would much rather put my hard earned in to the club and see the value for that. I know some here see the no break in membership since foundation as a badge of honour, and fair play if that floats your boat. It’s something to hang on to if you like that kind of thing. I think it is a Middlesbrough thing. If the quality isn’t there then no cash. But loyalty will remain as a supporter. Stokz, Potkorok, wendybr and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Robvad10 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, StringerBellend said: What a strange defence of CR? He was the manager what makes you think he didn't want or select Duke, Ziggy or Kamau? Of course he is accountable for the decision to sign those three But lets for a moment go with it, and assume that JT and Ledderer signed them and forced them into CRs squad without CRs ok. If that's the case then CR is even worse than I thought as lets face it they are the only three signings who you can really say were a success (or at least three of the four). By your logic CRs signings Ibini - massive disappointment, hopefully comes good next year but largely looked disinterested this year Triosi - Looks past it, odd good game but nowhere near enough Dorrans - Solid season, would have expected more from our top foreign signing, as he did really dominate, but still sold enough, Not here next year though. Mutch - By the time he got fit, the season was almost over, even then CR didn't play him (the player he signed with our last visa spot) Urgarkovic - I think he'll be ace but too early to tell JT signings that CR didn't approve* - Ziggy - our best defender and one player who tried his arse off every week - Kamau - Player of the season, top goal scorer, earned a spot to Europe out of it - Duke - Other than Kamau our best attacking threat * CR is the manager, he did approve them, but if he didn't and signed the other lot, then we should get JT to do our recruitment Other for the 12 Margush - did well as young keeper can't defend corners - pretty sure CR signed him Scott McDonald - apart from one goal in a derby nothing much to report there Lesios melbourne Kid - first signing under CR never used @Keithie I'm at 11, Pretty sure he gave contract renewals to Grozos (at start of season could be wrong), Aquilna and Natta but even all of that is wrong 11 out of 12. CR was given more than any manager I’m not defending him but the whole culture of this club is rotten but ultimately it falls on CR. Carns, matty and sonar 3 Link to comment
Jefski Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Wanderboy said: So, do we auto-renew our memberships and trust them to strengthen the squad, or do we tell them to get ****ed after years of failure? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I said the same thing last season, trusted and had hope that things would turn around. I auto renewed, and was dished up the same old ****. How many years of this shite can we continually be forking out OUR hard earned for.? I'm construction industry, currently stood down, and not eligible for a govt grant to subsidize my substantial loss of income. Well, (substantial to me anyway), to keep me alive and kicking. Yet, I get the generic "auto-renewal" email the other day, stating dates that my account will be debited, yet nothing more than a (we value your continued membership) standard statement, and a last option to opt out. I'm sort of glad that we haven't yet had one of those ******* generic propaganda emails from Lederer or JT so far this off season, that promises success and mentions shite like big club stuff, academy and new stadium, although I suspect one is coming when membership renewals don't reach the numbers that they hope. The place is run by monkeys, and I'm seriously considering not being their banana this season. I'm sick of being chewed up and spat out. I say the same thing each year and somehow I keep renewing but this is the last time (again). Potkorok and EmMac 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Keithie said: I think the dirty dozen have gone missing , Bellend can you list them or is it a gross exaggeration I just did Link to comment
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StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Keithie said: Did you blokes include the cleaner in the list I think he was replaced also . No that would be a gross exaggeration Edited July 22, 2021 by StringerBellend Zelinsky and TwoLeftFoots 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) This is getting like the politics thread. except we generally all want the same outcome Edited July 22, 2021 by StringerBellend Zelinsky 1 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Wanderboy said: So, do we auto-renew our memberships and trust them to strengthen the squad, or do we tell them to get ****ed after years of failure? I'm leaning towards the latter, because I said the same thing last season, trusted and had hope that things would turn around. I auto renewed, and was dished up the same old ****. How many years of this shite can we continually be forking out OUR hard earned for.? I'm construction industry, currently stood down, and not eligible for a govt grant to subsidize my substantial loss of income. Well, (substantial to me anyway), to keep me alive and kicking. Yet, I get the generic "auto-renewal" email the other day, stating dates that my account will be debited, yet nothing more than a (we value your continued membership) standard statement, and a last option to opt out. I'm sort of glad that we haven't yet had one of those ******* generic propaganda emails from Lederer or JT so far this off season, that promises success and mentions shite like big club stuff, academy and new stadium, although I suspect one is coming when membership renewals don't reach the numbers that they hope. The place is run by monkeys, and I'm seriously considering not being their banana this season. I'm sick of being chewed up and spat out. Footy aside I hope you are ok, it’s tough at moment especially in construction BoyFromTheWest and Smoggy 2 Link to comment
Smoggy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Smoggy said: Didn’t renew last season and no regrets. It doesn’t make me happy of course, I would much rather put my hard earned in to the club and see the value for that. I know some here see the no break in membership since foundation as a badge of honour, and fair play if that floats your boat. It’s something to hang on to if you like that kind of thing. I think it is a Middlesbrough thing. If the quality isn’t there then no cash. But loyalty will remain as a supporter. Just to say that its not necessarily because of on the pitch. I have renewed Boro season tickets in very dark times. I don't like the feeling i am being taken for a ******* ride that I get with this club lol That is the reason. Edited July 22, 2021 by Smoggy Carns, DinoPresinger and Wanderboy 3 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 We should be going all out to keep Duke id rather keep him than her ikonomidis dcrow and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
theguyyouwishyouwere Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, StringerBellend said: We should be going all out to keep Duke id rather keep him than her ikonomidis Duke should be keen to stay because we're the only team he's able to score at. And that's pretty important for someone for someone who thinks they're a striker. pseudonym 1 Link to comment
sonar Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hasn't Duke already gone back to his Saudi club.......? Link to comment
theguyyouwishyouwere Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, sonar said: Hasn't Duke already gone back to his Saudi club.......? i think you'll find Duke is in Japan sonar, Edinburgh and Unlimited 3 Link to comment
WSWJACK Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Don't think the Saudis will loan him again they'll want to sell, Duke in the shop window in Tokyo is good for them. Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Yep his loan is up, we should be trying to sign perm, I’m guessing though the Saudi’s will want a fee which counts out any a league team Link to comment
THEWANDERERSPOST Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Was reported a week or 2 ago Duke wouldn't return this season. TwoLeftFoots and DinoPresinger 2 Link to comment
StringerBellend Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said: Was reported a week or 2 ago Duke wouldn't return this season. True.. but until he signs for a new club I’d guess we are an option my point was watching the olyroos game last night I’d have him over ikonomidis he’s not as quick or skilful, but he leads, puts in huge effort and is a very smart player it will be a shame that he’ll just be remembered here for a couple of cameo seasons and maybe coming back when past it we should be building a team round him DinoPresinger, dodson, THEWANDERERSPOST and 1 other 4 Link to comment
THEWANDERERSPOST Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, StringerBellend said: True.. but until he signs for a new club I’d guess we are an option my point was watching the olyroos game last night I’d have him over ikonomidis he’s not as quick or skilful, but he leads, puts in huge effort and is a very smart player it will be a shame that he’ll just be remembered here for a couple of cameo seasons and maybe coming back when past it we should be building a team round him Honestly couldn't agree with you more, I just personally can't see it happening. He had an amazing performance last night and didn't get enough credit for it. StringerBellend and Westiesarebesties 2 Link to comment
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