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  1. 4 points
    Neverbloom

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    i'll give them another season, if i still feel **** all for this club after that then the membership fee isnt worth it
  2. 4 points
    mack

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Why should we, if Lederer won't? I'm not a billionaire. Why are the fans expected to pick up the pieces of 15 years of dismal FFA leadership & ~5 years of dismal Lederer ownership?
  3. 4 points
    Davo

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Maybe the plan is to wait for the level of football to drop down to ours and beat them with experience.
  4. 3 points
    Neverbloom

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    that is true for me its not so much a matter of success(though being successful would be helpful) but its more a matter of engagement, the fact that during the virus all they tried to do was sell us shitty pyramid scheme garbage was not ideal there are many issues i have with the club stopping me for feeling that passion i used to feel for them so we will see if they can actually improve. that said it would be nice to have one season where we are not terrible......its been a while
  5. 3 points
    WSWJACK

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    A lot riding on this next season for the A league in general, if WSW are successful next year would imagine a lot more carrying on for the season after, if they fail, memberships will probably fall off the cliff, it ain't cheap!
  6. 3 points
    Sithslayer1991

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    One thing is for certain the quality of play will drop considering who has left the A-league already.
  7. 3 points
    StringerBellend

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    2nd time he’s done it and people blame Lopar for not coming back to finish the season
  8. 2 points
    Carns

    What Floats Your Boat 4

  9. 2 points
    wendybr

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    Thanks guys! I was probably about 30 when I last confessed to having a birthday! 🤣 Turns out that the guy who sits next to me at school has the same birthday as me (newish staff member)...so it was a shared celebration , from which there was no escaping.
  10. 2 points
    Neverbloom

    Mental Health Thread 2

    its not the therapist its the shitty agency who have made that decision, wellbe psychology who are the ones who cant keep a ******* appointment but i cant find any groups like that in my area, trying to find a group like that(pretty much an agent for therapists) because then i have more choice instead of being stuck with one psychologist but i cant find anything like that, it would honestly be easier just to OD then deal with this **** i am ******* sick of it EDIT: found a group who hopefully are less ****, its like 2 hours to attend an appointment but its better than dealing with these useless ****s
  11. 2 points
    sonar

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    I think he was taliking about Lederer putting the cash in not the fans.
  12. 2 points
    Smoggy

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    WGMG..as of today I am officially the parent of a teenager Except he has been behaving like a stroppy teenager for the last few years Plus i don't feel old enough to be the parent if a ******* teenager.... Anyhoo.. off to buy a cake and work out which pizzas he wants...if that's not too lame and embarrassing for him
  13. 2 points
    ZachMercer

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    WRGMG. Those vanish ad's on TV with those social, parenting and fashion influencers. Not only does vanish not work on stains, but I've not heard of any of these people. The dude with the spotless all white apartment is apparently a parenting influencer, and the fashion influencer is one of those shaby chic twats that likes wearing blouses that resemble tents. Who are they appealing to...
  14. 2 points
    Neverbloom

    AFL Thread 2

    something i have always respected about gws fans is how even before the pandemic they were socially distancing, we could learn a lot from gws fans
  15. 1 point
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/16/holocaust-us-adults-study
  16. 1 point
    nick

    Football Media Discussion 2

    The benefit the A-league has over Rugby is Saturday nights. 2 A-league games back to back, leading into EPL early game. The EPL can bring viewers to the A-league as it did for fox, especially that marquee game of the round before the early sat night EPL game.
  17. 1 point
    Kappa 3 year deal
  18. 1 point
    wendybr

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    Thank you Mathyou and Cynth! 😊😊
  19. 1 point
    Davo

    The Refereeing Thread

    See all that just tells me it’s a poorly written law. If your arms are below your shoulders it’s not handball, except when it is. If you’re sliding and it hits one of your arms it’s not handball but if it hits the other arm it is handball (can’t wait for the VAR call where they roll back and forward frame by frame to see whether their hand is touching the ground when the ball hits it so it’s not handball, or it’s a millimetre above the ground and is handball). It’s so excessively complicated that there’s no way your average park football player is going to understand it and no way park football referees are going to be able to apply it consistently. They’ve got a hard enough job as it is without having to be a California lawyer and figure out whether there’s an r in the month or a retrograde moon for it to be handball. If there’s so many terms and conditions you’re never going to convince a player that the decision is correct.
  20. 1 point
    Cynth

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    Happy birthday Wendy!!
  21. 1 point
    MathyouWSW

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    Happy birthday, Wendy!
  22. 1 point
    Paul01

    The Refereeing Thread

    What higher pay? My association is still paying the same community fees as recommended in the Football NSW circular. We have better coverage simply because of a reduction of teams. As to quality, we have some youngsters in the Football NSW RDP program. They usually do NPL Youth games on Saturday so we don't get them for Saturday games which are u12 to u15s + u16 boys (all divisions), so we lose them for youth games. They usually do Sundays for u16 girls, u17 boys, intermediate men and women, all age men/women + o35s. At the moment, we have lot of the younger referees unavailable due to exams so coverage is reduced.
  23. 1 point
    Neverbloom

    Mental Health Thread 2

    the first cancellation was because the therapist had a family emergency, had no issue with that but the 2nd appointment they just ****ed up but yay at least i got an appointment in mid October(till they randomly cancel that one too) and now the therapist i feel comfortable with and is local is not taking new clients so they ****ed up in 2 different ways
  24. 1 point
    TwoLeftFoots

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Its a shame that the players are forced to benefits. Now is exactly the time to put the extra cash in and look after the players. Theres a reason why higher quality players don't want to come here.
  25. 1 point
    wswnick

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Membership email has come through. Auto-renews on 1st October and club are discounting costs by 10%. Would rather they took full price and paid the players....
  26. 1 point
    Apparently it's "not Wendy's" now.
  27. 1 point
    Carns

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Things will get much messier over the next few weeks/months and the league will look very different next year (and probably for the foreseeable future). WSW have been preparing us for the mediocrity to come with the tripe served up over the last few years, I wonder how far we'll sink?
  28. 1 point
    Davo

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    Even the Mariners have kept paying the players in full, although if they are at the cap floor and don't have marquees you could argue that they've been paying 50% all season.
  29. 1 point
    Sithslayer1991

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    15 years.... 15 years to get this point and this is where we are at. If players we currently have aren't already looking overseas they most likely will
  30. 1 point
    mack

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/clubs-cut-player-wages-by-50-per-cent-as-a-league-war-escalates Western Sydney Wanderers billionaire boss Paul Lederer is understood to have placed his squad on JobKeeper allowances as a consequence of Professional Footballers Australia rejecting the arbitrary offer of 30 per cent wage cuts as part of a new CBA.
  31. 1 point
    Excellent....Sean Lock has some debate ideas that would grace this thread....what are your thoughts and opinions on Nazi isalnd?
  32. 1 point
    StringerBellend

    EPL & F.A Cup thread

    Tim Sherwood makes watching Optus sport painful he makes Robbie slater look intelligent “Carlo anelotti was lucky not to get sacked last year” yep Tim I’m sure Multi European champions league and countless domestic league wins Carlo really gives a **** about former Sacked by Tottenham and Aston villa manager of Swindon Town Tim thinks
  33. 1 point
    Smoggy

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    My old man has had a bad fall in the last few days Made a hell of a mess of his face. Hit his face as he went down and the bridge of his glasses took the first hit..glasses cut his face and the combination of the broken glasses parts and concrete made a hell of a mess of his face. A big tall man like me but the chemo has hit him hard over the last year..has lost a lot of strength. He couldn't get back up, my mum was with him but of course she wasn't strong enough to get him back up so she had to go and knock on someone's door for help and between them they got him up.... His pride is hurt more than pain I think. Making fun of it of course he said 'you should have seen the other guy' lol But I know he is embarrassed. He has a stick to use when he goes out walking..not a oldies stick but one of those ones a hiker uses..you get them from those outdoors shops. He won't use it though Only ever seen him as a big tall strong bloke all my life. To see him with his face like that is hard and a reminder that we all get bloody old eh As soon as this covid shyte is sorted I will be heading over.
  34. 1 point
    mack

    Football Media Discussion 2

    Streaming doesn't matter if the FFA/A-League doesn't have anything that can convert streams into paying customers once Foxtel cut us.
  35. 1 point
    StringerBellend

    Football Media Discussion 2

    I must have missed the bit about streaming being meaningless. the rise of streaming was killing foxtel prior to Covid. Covid has just finished them off and the likely the A League with it. Of course it’s salvageable but that means reconnecting with fans, playing games in right size stadiums, connecting the professional league to the grassroots etc all stuff that the league has failed to do while it sucked lazily on the foxtel teet problem is the FFA has 12 months to do something it’s failed to do in 12 years and now has to do it in middle of a global pandemic and the economic depression that comes with it the revolution has come and foxtel is up against the wall
  36. 1 point
    hughsey

    Football Media Discussion 2

    I couldn’t disagree more with the comments about streaming numbers meaning nothing in the real world. “Real world” is simply a reference to Fox Sports who have blatantly refused to even acknowledge streaming for the past decade and only now that it’s too late have had to panic create Kayo. They’ve thrown us under the bus, lowballed the NRL into a long term deal and with the way they’re tracking, I can’t imaging it’ll be long before they turn on AFL and cricket. This rhetoric that Fox Sports are the lifeblood of Australian sport is laughable, no one seems to be awake to the fact that they are gradually pushing blame onto our sporting codes to disguise their own mismanagement and internal shortcomings. Streaming is the future and anyone who denies that is kidding themselves. The rest of the world would be pissing themselves laughing reading a comment like that.
  37. 1 point
    StringerBellend

    Football Media Discussion 2

    Spot on The league is totally rooted COVID has accelerated the demise of failing business models, while accelerating others, not just football but everything else retail, higher ed and crucially pay tv We were on a slow (well medium pace) decline before Covid, along with foxtel who we had hitched are wagon too, now both are going full speed toward a cliff The league was built to be dependent on foxtel from the start and has been since at the whim of foxtel from expansion clubs to kick off schedules etc. Also are weird craving for mainstream acceptance hasn’t helped, it’s killed active support, and prevented us from forming a connection with the past (apart from the patronising once a year foxtel fascination with Cevapi) only two of the clubs have built any sort of infrastructure, when the franchises disappear they will go without a trace I don’t see the league in its current form lasting. maybe they should just merge the a league teams that survive with the top few NSL teams and go back to an NSL model without banging on like that south melbourne fan on twitter, What A League franchise are actual clubs that will continue once foxtel stops? Us? Sydney? Victory? Where as much as the FFA tried to kill them Syd Utd, Melb Croatia, etc are all still alive
  38. 1 point
    WHACKO

    Football Media Discussion 2

    Another article form the roar.com.au (worth a read) A-League enters death spiral Does the title sound dramatic? Or not dramatic enough? Let’s cut to the chase. The A-League (and Australian football in general) is in dire straights. Where does the blame lie? Again, let’s not beat around the bush. The game’s administrators, in the main. It stems from their lack of appreciation of football and its unique value proposition, their refusal to recognise football’s heritage, their dismantling of our youth system and the bewildering desire to destroy active support – one of the game’s huge draw cards. And of course there is the blatant disrespect for football fans, treating them like dollar signs (clubs here have to take some blame also). The suits at head office are paying the price of making TV money the centre of their strategy, and making what’s in the best interest of football a secondary consideration. A third team in both Sydney and Melbourne? Doesn’t make sense, does it? A Canberra or Wollongong team does. But not in the world of TV money. The administrators looked desperately for any positives. What’s that, I hear you say? Streaming numbers are up? Well in the real world that has little to no impact. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Major sponsors have walked, the Charles Perkins Academy for Indigenous footballers has shut its doors, and Foxtel (after seeing a 70 per cent decline in viewers over three seasons) has pulled the plug early. So desperate were the administration for any sort of good news, that Fox’s new revised and reduced TV deal was painted as some sort of victory. It wasn’t. It was a disaster. The ramifications are being felt now. Players are being asked to accept a 30 per cent pay cut, $20 million worth of talent is already gone and a potential mass exodus is to follow. The game is in such disarray that the transition of leadership at the top has been an ongoing saga. At the beginning of the season I wrote the A-League needed to turn its fortunes around now because the window of opportunity was fast closing. If you remember the head honchos at the time couldn’t even agree on a radio promotion campaign. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Then they had three seasons to desperately get it together. Now (with the revised TV deal) they have a single season. The window is almost closed. And so the A-League has entered its death spiral. I say this as someone with experience in dealing with companies who have entered this death spiral and trying to pull them out of it. It is not impossible. But it is damn difficult. The A-League will either collapse, a victim of poor administration and subsequent flagging interest, or it will survive as a cut-price B-League, getting by hand to mouth off any scraps that fall off the table in a broader economy already under stress. The latter is the best-case scenario, surviving the next three to four years while trying to get some fresh roots to sprout and take hold. It’s a big ask. The league is in a tail spin. The momentum is only going one way. So what can be done? Well, in a crisis, some see opportunity. It is no coincidence that the Canberra bid has re-emerged. They reason that a league desperate for money will now be more amenable to their cause. The cash injection from licences will be desperately needed. Also, dust off the old cobwebs and re-examine the findings of the old proposed APL by the players’ union. The A-League went with a “build it and they will come” mentality, playing out of large stadiums with exorbitant rents. Play out of smaller, football-specific venues and engage clubs in a long-term plan to build their own stadiums. This process should have started 15 years ago. Get rid of the metric bozos running the game. Get people who understand football in, and people with the right connections. Also – and this may be difficult because people love power – give CEO James Johnson more power to ram through desperately needed change. We seem to now have a man who understands football. I wish we had him three seasons ago. Sadly though his powers are curtailed with the new organisational structure that will come into play. He is pivotal to the game’s revival. The club owners – who for years were screaming for reform in order to invest – have their chance to put their money where their mouth is. And finally, engage the fans, not as dollar signs fulfilling metrics but as human beings, with emotion and passion. The A-League may not make it through this, but we need to give it every fighting chance to do so.
  39. 1 point
    mack

    WSW 18/19 & 19/20 Club Thread

    We should be grateful, it means Lederer has at least paid the electricity bill in the last few months.
  40. 1 point
    WHACKO

    Football Media Discussion 2

    Interesting Article (from the Roar.com.au) I'm not sure how much more of the A-League I can take One of my favourite memories of Sydney is of a hot and sweaty November show at the city’s legendary home of alternative music, the Annandale Hotel. It was the first Aussie tour of Californian punk middleweights Ignite and despite it being a Thursday night, the venue was packed and the punters were spilling out into the streets and milling around at Stanmore Maccas as they often did whenever an international band came to town. Early on in their set Ignite launched into ‘Embrace’ off their 1996 EP Past Our Means, at which point a popular scene kid named Dan Bombings leapt from the front row and with split-second timing, grabbed the mic off singer Zoli Teglas. “I try and try… to stay positive!” screamed Bombings, as a less-than-impressed Teglas – singing a song about scene unity – attempted to wrestle back control of the microphone. I look back on the memories of that show – the sticky floor, the surging crowd, the fans lining up to sing songs of protest with a ticket from Resist Records in one hand and a Big Mac in the other – and I can’t help but smile. But that was 16 years ago. I have no idea if the Sydney punk scene still exists because I left the city more than a decade ago. Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to the A-League Along with a ticket to see Ignite, one of the other things I no doubt bought in late 2004 was a season ticket to what was then my local A-League club. And with the exception of a year or two when I lived in Japan, my household has been home to multiple A-League club memberships ever since. This year we had three. But this season, more than any other, has tested my resolve. It’s made me question my commitment to a league that plenty of others were happy to wipe their hands of long ago. It’s not just one thing, it’s lots of things. It’s Simon Hill leaving Fox Sports. It’s the Central Coast Mariners potentially leaving Gosford. It’s the Queensland state government rolling out the red carpet and allowing AFL executives to quarantine-as-they-please, while Brisbane Roar players and staff suffer in locked-away 14-day silence. It’s Fox Sports overpaying for the Big Bash League and exclusive cricket content, panicking after adding almost no new subscribers, then making the A-League the scapegoat for it. It’s expansion club Macarthur FC charging active supporters $440 for a season ticket. It’s the VAR. And increasingly it’s the rational discourse, or lack thereof, on social media. What’s the old proverb? Repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it’s true? It’s hard enough to convince anyone else the A-League is decent quality without another “peak A-League” meme every time someone skies the ball into Row Q. Just like it’s hard to convince some of the fans who revel in this side of internet culture that their determination to pay as little as possible to consume their football content is one reason the A-League is haemorrhaging cash. But writing as much doesn’t win over any new fans. Sometimes being the football lover who tries to take a different look at things brings nothing but brickbats and lawsuits. Just ask Bonita Mersiades. The A-League was once fresh and exciting and new. But that was 16 years ago. And so a week out from Sydney FC’s latest grand final win, I can’t pretend I’m not relieved the season is finally over. There’s a tattoo on the back of my calf, which most people think is sports-related, but which is actually the album cover of Swiss punk band The Vanilla Muffins’ 2003 classic The Drug Is Football. For me, the drug will always be football. But as the A-League faces an uncertain future, it’s time for me to take some time off. I hope it will be back – next December or February or whenever. And I hope I will too.
  41. 1 point
    SomeGuy1977

    Jokes

    Dude 1: Hey bro Dude 2: Yeah bro? Dude 1: Can you pass me that pamphlet? Dude 2: Brochure
  42. 1 point
    sonar

    Jokes

    Is that the same horse that got a hit on the head by a ducthman...mayo neighs got hollandazed......
  43. 1 point
    Kitto

    Jokes

    I bought a horse and named it Mayo. Sometimes, Mayo neighs.
  44. 1 point
    Wanderboy

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    That reminds me of a couple of years ago when I took the missus and kids to the Sydney Tower buffet for lunch. Great feed on a beautiful day. Much fun and an amazingly enjoyable meal was had. On the way down in the lift with just the 4 of us, I asked my daughter to pull my finger and I ripped off the biggest fart imaginable. It was full of all of my lunch - crocodile sausages, prawns, curries, various cheeses, desserts, beer, etc... It was a proud moment. The kids eyes were watering. The crowning glory was that when we alighted at the bottom from the gas chamber, there were other guests that walked straight in after us to go up for lunch. I'm sure they would have either baulked at eating much, or just got back into the next lift going down and headed home.
  45. 1 point
    Smoggy

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    Got stuck in a ******* lift with the wife Had two bottles of wine with us mind so 1 each. Was thankfully only 10mins though. ‘If you fart I am going to whack you’ was the wife’s main contribution to the situation. ******* mind reader.
  46. 1 point
    MathyouWSW

    What Really Grinds My Gears 5

    WRGMG...Working from home, I'm not really coping with it at all. On Monday, my work ask me to take the work phone to my home, plus one of these 'dongle' things to setup the work phone to my home modem and connect it to the laptop. What's annoying is my room is all the way down to the hallway so here's this 10 metre cable down the hallway and into the home modem so all day while working, I'm worried my parents are going to trip over it. I really need a new job...but with the current situation we're in, it's quite difficult to find a new job...damn you, covid.
  47. 1 point
    StringerBellend

    Perth Glory

    I applaud the players who came back to finish the season, but I don’t blame any of those that didn’t where their employers stopped paying them It’s not up to the players to carry a financially failing league model in a crisis Especially given the “clubs” aren’t clubs they are franchise businesses owned by billionaires and millionares. I’d happily donate to a community club but why should I donate to Tony Sage? (Not that I am Castro obviously but you get the idea) He’s got very right to tell Tony Sage to stick it
  48. 1 point
    Carns

    Perth Glory

    Castro's decision is a **** move towards his teammates. But Glory dropped all the players as quick as they could. And Sage is a billionaire (FYI I felt the same about WSW/Lederer when they did the same). I don't work for free, and wouldn't be keen to work for 10% of my wage (as an example). Castro would be in his last few years as a player, has a family and not much earning potential (relatively speaking) when he retires. Schwegler was playing his last games as a professional footballer. His decision is as much about finishing a season for himself as it was for his team mates (and I applaud him for his sacrifice and commitment).
  49. 1 point
    JackDoff

    Condolences (RIP)

    RIP Poppy from Seinfeld only just found out he died beginning of this month
  50. 1 point
    Midfielder

    Music Thread 4

    Aussie Classic and what a set of pipes... best version of Help by anyone
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