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  1. 28 points
    No it wasnt the right call for a lot of reasons, here's a few. Firstly Beatth rules a DIRECT free kick (his arm clearly gives the foul signal) which means he has not given an offside decision but a foul. Second when he changes his mind at the end of the game and said it is offside, the offside rule uses the word proximity, Sotirio is never preventing Zullo from getting there for two reasons, firstly because Zullo goes down of his own accord quicker than a two bob hooker and secondly he was never going to get to boy crossing the ball, therefore cannot be offside due to being outside the proximity. Thirdly and probably most importantly whether it is a foul or offside it really doesn't matter, it is VAR, was it an OBVIOUS error, well from the reactions from everyone debating it I would say it is not an obvious anything. So Beath got it wrong, at the time, on review and after the game so not once, not twice, but three times.
  2. 27 points

    Unhappy New Year

    Well that was utter ****. I’m not even going to start with the on field stuff. However I’d like to set the record straight about some of the off field stuff I saw. I sit about 10 metres to the right of the tunnel behind the away bench so I was pretty much in the middle of what happened. I clearly heard and saw everything that happened as the players walked off. Three or four RBB members came over and stood between several police officers and security guards at the tunnel. They were a little bit intimidating however the worst they yelled was “fire the **** up” and “show some ******* passion”. While I don’t necessarily agree with what they did, to hear they’ve been banned is ridiculous. There was no violence and it was simply loud yelling. There were dozens of other members yelling the exact same things from their seats nearby. Apparently there was also some talk that the police accused them of knocking over children during the incident. This is completely untrue. If someone would like me to write a stat dec in their defence or contact the club with what I saw, I’m happy to do so on their behalf. Hope common sense prevails but I don’t see it happening.
  3. 25 points
    It's simple. No more away games, bare minimum commitment to home games. No more focus on other clubs or the A-League in general. Tell everyone why and make sure the feedback goes back to the clubs and the FFA. Losing a game because you are outplayed is part of the deal with football...with any sport. But having the soul ripped out of you time and time again because of the consistently anti-football measures in effect on and off the pitch is killing my love of the game & my care factor for the A-League. Always Red & Black Barely caring now about the league and those associated with the sport outside my club.
  4. 24 points
    1. Get off Majok's back. Those calling him a 'poor man's Sotirio' are blind or stupid. Yes first touch was noticeably poor on occasions, but his pass selection and movement is top-notch. Still a kid, already better than Jaush and will improve with the experience. 2. Anti-Babbel brigade need to understand what a manager's role is. He has this team playing beautiful football that is a joy to watch. Mistakes made in previous weeks ARE being corrected the following week and we are showing continual improvement throughout 'the process'. Results WILL follow even with all the challenges of inheriting a young team. 3. I thought stalwarts Vedran and Ori were off last night while the oft-flaky Risdon was MotM. We need to get it together / perform as a whole and we will destroy oppositions. 4. Not long to go in the worst stadium on the planet. EDIT: 5. RBB was the best in a long time last night. Loud and proud at a false home deserves some real credit. Keep it up legends.
  5. 23 points
    Those in charge of Football Federation Australia must follow the VAR out the door after another display of the VAR and Australia's inept referees cheating the Wanderers, snuffing out a potential comeback in what should have been a classic Sydney Derby. Sydney FC scored an early goal just 4 minutes into the match. Adam Le Fondre standing in an offside position at a free kick, hung around after a half-clearance, the ball fell to him after a shot back in. Vedran Janjetovic smothered his initial shot but another piece of luck had him smack the rebound into an empty net. Replays showed that not only was Le Fondre offside at the free kick (but according to the VAR, somehow not interfering with play), but that Mahazi had been interfered with by an offside Brosque. The score was 1-0, and the VAR did nothing. After the break the Wanderers were two behind having gifted their opponents a golden chance to score. On the edge of their own area, Sotirio played a hospital ball to Josh Risdon, and instead of trying to clear, he played a sideways pass intended for Mahazi that was intercepted by Ninkovic, and he pounced to play through Brosque and his first time strike beat Janjetovic at the far post. Despite going two behind, the Wanderers did show some of the vaunted mentality Markus Babbel has been trying to instill in his charges, but when they finally converted one of their chances to score, it was cruelly and idiotically over-turned by the inept Chris Beath with an assist from the VAR. Baumjohann and Risdon worked down the right flank, the Risdon cross made it's way to the other end of the area where Roly Bonevacia smashed an 18 yard first time rocket past Andrew Redmayne. With no real protests from the home side, the VAR intervened to take away the goal. Chris Beath decided that Michael Zullo had been fouled by Jaushua Sotirio in the lead up to the cross. While Sotirio was in an offside position, Zullo's choice to dive into Sotirio while meters away from the ball was rewarded with Beath over-turning the decision by declaring Sotirio had fouled the SFC defender. in the aftermath Markus Babbel exploded at the fourth official, remonstrating to show his disgust at the call. He was awarded the A-League's first "Coach Red Card" by Beath. Babbel then walked around the long boundary of the Sydney Cricket Ground, a route that took him in front of the RBB who roared their approval. The failure was compounded in the post-game with Beath being interviewed and stating that the decision was actually offside, even though vision showed clearly that his decision was that it was a foul. Additionally, his interview stated that the linesman who was as close to Sotirio as Zullo was to Risdon, had completely missed the offside/foul and that the decision was solely made by VAR and himself. It was another display of referees who aren't good enough to be officiating our most important football games. Enough is enough. This is not just the VAR. Although it needs to be cancelled immediately. The VAR failed from the moment it was introduced. Bad decisions have been made since Wellington Phoenix were robbed against Sydney FC in Round 26 in 2016/17. Perth Glory were robbed in the Semi-Final in that season. The technology failed Newcastle Jets in the Grand Final last. It failed to detect Bruno Fornaroli diving in the recent Melbourne Derby. It tonight secured another game for Sydney FC. Offsides are a lottery. Tonight WSW have a goal taken away for offside. Last year Adelaide when playing against us had a clear offside goal investigated by the VAR be allowed to stand. The Wanderers were cruelled against Perth Glory when sideline cameras failed to be in the right decision for an obvious offside, leading to a red card against us. It ignores certain laws like encroachment at penalties, and offsides against players standing offside from free kicks. When looking at holding in the penalty area from set pieces the VAR is seemingly over intended to confirm whatever decision was made on the field. When a decision isn't made on the pitch by the referee, the basic law against holding is ignored by the VAR. The level of intervention around forceful tackles once saw the Mariners reduced by two players from VAR decisions, while other tackles that could break legs are ignored in other games. This is the result of a long held refusal by the FFA to enforce basic standards of officiating skill. We have seen officials give baffling offsides against players standing behind the ball being played. We have seen offsides given from a throw in. There is zero consistency in the application of offside. There is zero consistency in the application of handball. Certain teams received baffling leniency when playing tactics that deliberately disrupt their opposition with professional fouls in the midfield. The time for incremental change is over. Now that the FFA Governance saga is over, I call on whoever makes up the new FFA Board to immediately sack FFA Chief Executive David Gallop, Head of the A-League Greg O'Rourke, FFA Referees boss Ben Wilson, and A-League referees Chris Beath, Jarred Gillett, Kurt Ams, Peter Green and Shaun Evans. The FFA/A-League positions must be filled with people passionate about football. The VAR must be immediately cancelled and never return to Australian football. Get in touch with the football associations in German, England, Japan and Holland. Ask for the phone numbers of some consistent referees, who might be inclined to spend 6 months in the Australian summer. Bring them over. The current people in charge of Football Federation Australia have lost the trust of the football community. The new FFA Board must take the chance to rebuild the foundation of our sport in a positive, intelligent matter to take the sport forward once again. We risk turning the A-League into a joke, and having it be abandoned to the ruin of all the good work done by the players, clubs and supporters up to now. If the FFA fail to rectify the situation, a repeat of the ban list fan boycott is on the cards, and was called for by Mark Bosnich in the Fox Sports post-game show. I would wholeheartedly approve of that action. View full article
  6. 22 points
    The difference is, Gombau was brought in because of his apparent youth credentials yet he not once went to a NYL training session nor could he name 1 youth player (legend tells he called a youth player by a wrong name once). Whereas its been widely reported that Babbel and the rest of the coaching staff all through the youth setup and academy are working together for a clear vision, especially once the facilities open in a few months. The club never wanted Gombau. He was only signed because no one else was available. Also, whenever we lost, he kept saying stuff like "we played well" whereas Babbel is p155ed big time every time we lose. This shows the difference in their approach. Gombau had Ikon to cover for him and create chances for the likes of Riera to score. Our squad is meh this season. We are struggling big time in the midfield and its an area that must be addressed either in January or the off season. Babbel was signed for 3 years with a clear vision for the club. They will give him time and a recruiting off season to really judge him. There's a difference in selecting your long term coach and giving him time to build a squad than taking whichever coach was available and allowing him to destroy the entire setup from u12s up because he had nfi and simply didn't care. The entire season we constantly heard rumours of discontent, Riera hating on Gombau, Bridge not buying into it and every other player thinking Gombau was useless. Not once this season has Babbel been labelled "under pressure" and not once have you heard of discontent from the players. That is a massive difference and another huge reason why the club isn't getting rid of Babbel. edit: Also, you could argue only the MV is the one where we completely got outplayed. Every other game has been a contest where small margins and individual errors have been our undoing. Its a far cry to what we're seeing at teams like Brisbane and CCM where they just look lost.
  7. 22 points

    Windswept Wellington Blown Away

    lel at Riera hate. Its the same stupid argument that Viduka was getting heaped crap on for the Socceroos. Riera is a workhorse on and off the ball. He probably has more defensive headers than our entire backline combined. He links up with those around him, holds the ball up for the wingers and wins most long ball challenges. Just because he hasn't scored in open play, it doesn't mean he is a massive part of this team. He's only had a couple of clear cut chances. The rest of the service he's been getting has been rather average. If people are seriously $h1tting on Riera, they can GTFO and go back to playing FIFA where every player needs to be fast and sprints forward all the time.
  8. 22 points
    Mixed emotions tonight. We were certainly poor, with touches of good or very good. It just beggars belief that Sotirio is a starter. Give me Kamau any day. I just cannot see one thing that says Sotirio is even good enough for A-League level. He works hard....fine, but he let's himself down in every other department on the field. I heard him interviewed on the radio on Friday. He doesn't come across as very bright, and that is the way he plays the game. Add to that poor decision making and poor basic skills, and you have a player hardly even worthy of a bench spot. I'm sick already of poor defensive decisions being responsible for leaking goals. Tonight's 2nd for ESFC was just shocking. Just kick the shite out of it. As for the VAR, I'm just lost for words. Pretty much everything has already been said but I'll just add one thing. The clear difference between our sport and almost all others is the excitement generated by a goal, as they are so hard to come by. It's not like the cheer-a-minute AFL (which I despise as a sport and culture), where you get to clap every few minutes, evening when you ******* miss. I follow and have attended a lot of different sports, yet there is nothing like the excitement generated by a football goal. It is the best feeling ever. What the VAR is doing, (or more importantly, the poor interpretations/decisions from the referees) is taking that away. It was never more evident than tonight. Young Wanderboy and I went crazy when Roly scored tonight. We then went through several minutes of angst and disbelief that the goal was even being questioned. Then, (as we all were) we were in disbelief when it was disallowed. But what made the whole shambles stand out to me was a few minutes later, I looked over at my son and he had tears streaming down his face. This is how much tonight meant to him, being a derby, and how a decision like last night's is destroying the fabric of what's made this game great. The spontaneity of excitement is being ripped from the game. I have no problem with the VAR in principle. It is the extraordinarily poor standard of referees in the A-League, and their inability to constantly make correct decisions that is killing our game. In the end, I had a great night at a game of football last night with my son. The whole derby day experience was fun. A meal in Parramatta beforehand, the train trip in on the RBB train, the march, etc... but we left deflated, due to the officiating. Sure, the Wanderers were quite poor, but we were always in that game, and could very easily have won it. Ultimately, that was taken out of our hands. As I said...…...mixed emotions.
  9. 22 points
  10. 21 points

    Vedran Hands Sydney FC Derby Win

    Had enough...... Got to seven hills station. No trains Drove like a lunatic to Lidcombe Got on Lidcombe to SOP train No Driver..couldn't get there due to storm sat at Lidcombe for 30 mins Saw storm coming over..thought stuff this got off train went to Dooleys Then found out game delayed.by this time had ordered food..long wait.game started. Watched the debacle unfold on TV. Stated to drive home. Going thru poorly lit street in Auburn drove over fallen tree branch.punctered tyre bucked wheel. Changed wheel eventually got home totally demoralized.. Not sure I can face anymore of this crap this season might just stay at home.. And if anybody criticizes me here with the old " well don't bother showing up next season when we move back to Parra" crap they can get forked...too I've been to every derby..lots of away games. Only missed a handful of games since club came into existence due to illness. We deserve better than this sh@te week after week and now season after season..big club my ass . if the club are deluded enough to think that moving back to New stadium will be enough to pacify us but continue to put together mediocre squads is enough they grossly underestimate us IMO. Sure the whole game day thing New stadium will be great. But ultimately I go to be entertained by watching my team play consistent competitive football not rubbish every week. The novelty of the new stadium will wear off pretty quickly if we don't field better teams, might have best purpose built stadium in A League with sub par 10k crowds every week Could be a watershed season for the club next season..time will tell Good morning and enjoy your sunday..
  11. 21 points
    Played a false 10 for most of the game, drew out the Nix cbs in the process which created the space for treejack in the box. Was travelling up and down the goal lines, attacking, defending, holding the ball, distributing it. Considering the result and the performance the game plan worked. That'll do me just fine.
  12. 21 points
    Yeah we have been totally falling apart when we go behind for a while now. Mental resilience can obviously come from within, it can be ingrained in the DNA of a place, and it can be learnt or improved upon through experience. It also comes from knowing your role, trusting the guy next to you and trusting that if you stick to your guns when things go wrong you will come through it. We have young guys in the middle of the pitch who haven’t learnt how to deal different situations, and we’ve also had four coaches in one year. Even though the appointment of Corica looks like a cheap, easy appointment, he can stay with the same structures that they have been using successfully and that the players know so well. Their back 7 has only had one change, and that was bringing in a Dutch CB. So as far as resilience goes, those guys all know their roles. When things start to go wrong, or when they are under the pump, they all know what to do. Our guys, because of their inexperience and the instability they have faced, don’t know what to do. Our midfield in particular, can’t tell when to put a foot on the ball, speed the play up, kick someone, needle someone in back play to put them off etc. They’re a bit lost. Also, when we got behind, a few of our players started trying to do things on their own that they don’t normally do, like beating a man or trying passes they don’t normally. This is a sign that they don’t trust the team or the tactics. It’s also not uncommon in a team with a new coach because players want to win and so start doing their own thing as they have no norms to fall back on. When the smurfs get behind, they all just fall into the roles they know so well. Whilst it wasn’t an enjoyable experience, last night was a really good opportunity for the coach to help his players grow, to teach them about how to react in certain situations. But mostly, we need experience in the centre of midfield. Without it, this will be a season of growing pains.
  13. 21 points

    Squad Development 2018/19 Part 1

    “Hey, international player, do you want to come and work for ... Steve Corica?” ”Hey international player, do you want to come and work for Markus Babbel?”
  14. 21 points
    He's Bavarian. And he used to be married to a girl from my home town. I remember him playing for Bayern and winning the Euro in 1996 with Germany. He was part of the side that knocked Cryff's Braca out of the UEFA semi in 1995. He's more accomplished as both coach and players as Kurz. Top knotch coach, top knotch guy. Babbel in the HAL is something else. I am very very happy. Unfortunately he won't know what hit him once he experiences Gillet et al, but he is bound to give them an ear full.
  15. 21 points

    Toilet Seat Playoffs

    Well would you believe it.........Sydney fans all over social media today decrying the finals system !! Suck it up princesses.
  16. 20 points

    A letter from the Chairman

    You'd be surprised the amount of WSW fans are completely unaware of the academy and HQ developments that are about to open and (hopefully) pay dividends to us for the foreseeable future.
  17. 20 points
    Oh FFS, I can't stand the complaining Everyone got shafted in this move. Red moved grandstands, Black moved to the ends and everyone else moved elsewhere to accommodate this. No category gets any preferential treatment over another. I agree with Taurus' comment. Everyone knew this was happening and knew what the plans looked like (if you bothered to research). I upgraded to Red this season knowing that if I wanted good seats, I would have to pay for it. Don't blame others for your inability to research and inquire about what was going to happen. If you're a foundation and red member, you will be rewarded for your attendance and financial loyalty. I'm sorry but if you don't want to pay the premium, you will get seats commensurate with what you are willing pay. Also, I think people are forgetting that the stadium will be bigger and have a better layout. People are imagining their new seats at the old stadium. Even on the ends, you will probably have a better view than at the old Parra or Spotless. With the new rake, you will be basically sitting on top of the field. At the Northern and Southern ends, the top bays will have a great view up high. Plus all the bays will be a lot bigger with more seats. And for all those people complaining about the sun - suck it up princesses. I spent seasons getting roasted, now everyone can enjoy the pain together. If you don't want the sun in your eyes, buy on the ends or pay the premium price for the few seats in the Western Stand. I dislike people who think the club owes them something more than what they deserve. If you are unhappy with the changes, feel free to not renew. You go to games to support your team, not to bitch about your view. I know that even if I had the shittiest seat in the new WSS, it will still be better than what I have at ANZ and Spotless now.
  18. 20 points

    VAR & FFA Must Go After Derby Disgrace

    Bozza at Foxsports: "this game is going to go under"; WSW web page: "controversy"; A-League web site: "what happened? what controversy?". Hmmm. But Bozza, you are a bit late to the party, really. S3: red card against Saba for hitting the ball; S4 Sotirio goal disallowed; S5 Zullo handball in the box missed by Beath; S6 Carney is awarded a dubious penalty; S7 Roly goal disallowed and Treejack penalty not given. Hmmm. My suggestion: FFA deduct the three points by default and award them to Smurfs; Smurf fans watch a re-run of above mentioned highlights with life expert commentary from Robbie Slater; WSW have a training session in Blacktown, and the WSW fans stay home instead of yet again being used as backdrop for the annual FFA sponsored ESFC show. Also, how did Grant manage to say on the pitch? Oh, I forgot, Beath and the VAR experts. Hmmm. From the press conference https://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/video/full-press-conference-markus-babbel-0 Q: "Does communication have to be better with VAR?" MB: (frowns) "No, not the communication, they have to watch on the television what's going on. This is the only problem what I saw, not the communication. [...] This is football. I was thinking I come to Australia they all [unaudible] rough, but at the moment we play basketball. If someone gets touched here they only need to scream and there is a free kick. It makes me mad. Maybe I am old fashioned, but this is not my game at the moment. [...] The boys in the box have to make better decisions." Hahaha. You tell them Markus. And no, there was nothing wrong with your body language. Not at all. Welcome to the HAL, Markus.
  19. 20 points
    I’m just here to say I love Markus Babbel and I love Mark Bosnich
  20. 20 points
    WSW have been invited to play in an u17's tournament in China, against clubs from other conferences including Benfica & AC Milan. Tournament will take place in mid August & will necessitate our u18's NPL2 game v's Bankstown Berries on the 18th, being rescheduled. Participation in the tournament will be financially lucrative for our club, as we'll receive an appearance fee & all expenses are covered by the hosts.
  21. 20 points
    That's because there hasn't been a Wanderers home game in a while.
  22. 19 points

    Vedran Hands Sydney FC Derby Win

    I think had this match occurred in isolation, the mood would be less dour. The boys were clearly on top. Working hard and showing good 'mentality'. Even after the send off, they had it under control. ESFC made nothing in open play and a typical clodhopping Sotirio moment let a shot on goal deflect onto Brosque's foot. But to say the boys didn't work hard or try is rubbish. To say Babbel threw it away with the ABJ sub, equally so. I get the debate, but there us no certainty ABJ would have helped us keep out the goals OR fashion the 3 (or more, knowing us) chances we needed to take something from the match. I understand that the match is part of a long line of disappointment. Since the GF loss to Adelaide, without a home, we've been hard to support. At the same time smurfs have been nearly unstoppable. Last night should have been the one to change that, but a brain explosion from a member of a playing group who feel the immense pressure got in the way. Under Babbel, we'll turn the corner. It's already apparent if you look at the right things, and his two visa recruits have been stronger than any non-marquee visa pair we've picked up. I don't think going home fixes our problems, but we aren't as far away as it feels.
  23. 19 points
    well deserved for o'doherty. i thought he made a difference when he came on in the derby and he has been very good today with and without the ball.
  24. 19 points
    i have hated VAR from the start. 2 biggest reasons.... 1. Undermines the authority and confidence of the onground officials. last night 's incident occurred 5 metres from the AR & 10 from the centre ref. If they can't see a foul/offside in real time then it's play on and we all live with decisions right or wrong. 2. It makes you look and feel like an idiot as a fan. You celebrate and jump around when the ball hits the net. Then you stand around for five minutes then you are told it wasn't a goal. It's not football. as a ref myself (at much lower level of course) - I hate the VAR. as a fan at the ground I REALLY hate the VAR. even when implemented 'well' as at the world cup I still don't want it.
  25. 19 points

    Squad Development 2018/19 Part 1

    oh no. bridge. and sotirio. oh no. please. popa. don't take them.
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