Sorry to those who have decided that Gombeu is going, but Bossi's article is crap.  Why do you guys buy into it, knowing for well he is a Sydney FC journalist.  Why do you think despite all his articles Fox never gets him on podcasts etc, because they know as well that he is basically a press release for Sydney FC (and they have a few of those already)

Cornthwait quote, totally out of context, same as Baccus.  He has no sources in Wanderers, the club does not trust him, the players don't trust him.  He has put his own spin on totally unrelated incidents to draw the conclusion that he wants.  That the Wanderers are hating the new guy, because he knows that when Gombau gets us firing (maybe not this year but next year and next season) when we once again take over Sydney FC, his bread and butter drys up.

Don't buy into anything he writes.  There will be changes, there will be hard times, but as someone already said what is worth doing is never easy.  The club won't sack Gombau, some players will go because they can't play his system.  I suspect he would like to push Rolly back deeper, I would be worried if I was Herd, as he isn't the type of player that Gombau likes.

And Jayko, stop it with the racist abuse of Spanish people, it is childish, wrong and quiet frankly has no place in our club

7 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

Sorry to those who have decided that Gombeu is going, but Bossi's article is crap.  Why do you guys buy into it, knowing for well he is a Sydney FC journalist.  Why do you think despite all his articles Fox never gets him on podcasts etc, because they know as well that he is basically a press release for Sydney FC (and they have a few of those already)

Cornthwait quote, totally out of context, same as Baccus.  He has no sources in Wanderers, the club does not trust him, the players don't trust him.  He has put his own spin on totally unrelated incidents to draw the conclusion that he wants.  That the Wanderers are hating the new guy, because he knows that when Gombau gets us firing (maybe not this year but next year and next season) when we once again take over Sydney FC, his bread and butter drys up.

Don't buy into anything he writes.  There will be changes, there will be hard times, but as someone already said what is worth doing is never easy.  The club won't sack Gombau, some players will go because they can't play his system.  I suspect he would like to push Rolly back deeper, I would be worried if I was Herd, as he isn't the type of player that Gombau likes.

And Jayko, stop it with the racist abuse of Spanish people, it is childish, wrong and quiet frankly has no place in our club

A lot of the comments here are just fans venting their frustrations over the poor team performances over last season and this. You have to remember that the club prior to Gombau taking charge has only had one coach....Popovic.

It's normal for fans of a club to disagree with one another on the merits of players,coaches adminstration,ownership,PR.....etc and it can be a little testy at times but the debate has been respectful and as far as I know, no fan here has handed back a membership,some may be getting close....lol

With respect to the Bossi, he does not have that many supporters here anyway. He knows and so do the $murfS hierachy that we will always have a bigger fan base than them due to the demographics of Western Sydney and it pisses them off. He is going to write and say anything to stick the boot in.

Club isn't getting rid of Gombau. Will destabilise the team more. They knew it would be a long process and the real proof will be next season.

Popa chose this team. And as mack said, we didn't exactly light up results prior to him leaving. The Perth win was more the players doing it out of solidarity after Popa jumped ship.

We treaded water under Foxe and now Gombau has come in and has to knock it all down and start from scratch. If the club didn't want this, they should have offered Milicic more money.

The WSW hierarchy, the ones who are supposedly putting the pressure on Gombau, are the ones to blame for this because they simply chose the wrong coach for this club. At this point in our club's history where we are losing fans because of home ground issues etc, there is no place for a coach who wants to implement "a long process". We are Western Sydney - we do not have patience! The hierarchy should have known this which shows that have know clue about what is good for the club!!

13 minutes ago, Zakman said:

The WSW hierarchy, the ones who are supposedly putting the pressure on Gombau, are the ones to blame for this because they simply chose the wrong coach for this club. At this point in our club's history where we are losing fans because of home ground issues etc, there is no place for a coach who wants to implement "a long process". We are Western Sydney - we do not have patience! The hierarchy should have known this which shows that have know clue about what is good for the club!!

True man. It’s just an overall ******* calamity that we’re just gonna have to ride out.

Eughhh.

31 minutes ago, Zakman said:

The WSW hierarchy, the ones who are supposedly putting the pressure on Gombau, are the ones to blame for this because they simply chose the wrong coach for this club. At this point in our club's history where we are losing fans because of home ground issues etc, there is no place for a coach who wants to implement "a long process". We are Western Sydney - we do not have patience! The hierarchy should have known this which shows that have know clue about what is good for the club!!

well look away if you don't like being told how it is.

1) Some of you would do well with learning some patience, all you generation Y's and Millennials would do well to understand this.  Good times are only good after going through BAD.

2) If we shed fans, then so be it, they were not the fans we want long term, because they will not stick when the bad times come (see 1)

3) If we shed fans  that's great, because those of us who started on day 1 and stuck with the team will be rewarded with better seats in the new Wanderland.

If you are unable to handle a loss like this, if you are unable to handle lean years, then you best bet is to either follow a different sport, or pick an EPL club that is the flavor of the year (I would suggest Manchester City, and then next year you can pick a different club when they are going better)

For the rest of you planning on sticking around, put your big boys pants on, knuckle down and lets show the club, the team and the coach that we are here and we support them.

3 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

well look away if you don't like being told how it is.

1) Some of you would do well with learning some patience, all you generation Y's and Millennials would do well to understand this.  Good times are only good after going through BAD.

2) If we shed fans, then so be it, they were not the fans we want long term, because they will not stick when the bad times come (see 1)

3) If we shed fans  that's great, because those of us who started on day 1 and stuck with the team will be rewarded with better seats in the new Wanderland.

If you are unable to handle a loss like this, if you are unable to handle lean years, then you best bet is to either follow a different sport, or pick an EPL club that is the flavor of the year (I would suggest Manchester City, and then next year you can pick a different club when they are going better)

For the rest of you planning on sticking around, put your big boys pants on, knuckle down and lets show the club, the team and the coach that we are here and we support them.

All true but it doesn't mean we can't  call out a poor decision when we see it.

In gombau I TRUST ✋😎

10 minutes ago, lloydy136 said:

All true but it doesn't mean we can't  call out a poor decision when we see it.

Don't disagree, but what is calling out bad decisions?  We do not know the machinations within the club, we do not know the thinking of the coach etc.  Gombau has put his hand up and said, yep I got it wrong.  Very rare for the coach to say that, often they blame players for not implementing the game plan, or the ref, or other things.  Gombau said he got it wrong and he is sorry to the fans.

Now do you think the fans that are baying for his blood or calling for players to be sacked, will they stand up and say they got it wrong, when we start to win under him?  I doubt they will.  Yes I know people are letting off steam, but they also have to be aware there are consequences for saying stuff, words have meaning.  How many people would vent like this 1 on 1 with the Coach or with any of the players?  

How is selecting Gombau a poor decision? How can one person make such a statement at this point in time?  To do so is at the very best stupid.  But words have meanings, and I can guarantee that the people that say things like that will never be held to account and will in fact forget they even said something like that in the future.  Because for too many people on social media etc, words don't have meaning.

17 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

well look away if you don't like being told how it is.

1) Some of you would do well with learning some patience, all you generation Y's and Millennials would do well to understand this.  Good times are only good after going through BAD.

2) If we shed fans, then so be it, they were not the fans we want long term, because they will not stick when the bad times come (see 1)

3) If we shed fans  that's great, because those of us who started on day 1 and stuck with the team will be rewarded with better seats in the new Wanderland.

If you are unable to handle a loss like this, if you are unable to handle lean years, then you best bet is to either follow a different sport, or pick an EPL club that is the flavor of the year (I would suggest Manchester City, and then next year you can pick a different club when they are going better)

For the rest of you planning on sticking around, put your big boys pants on, knuckle down and lets show the club, the team and the coach that we are here and we support them.

1 minute ago, Posthoc said:

Don't disagree, but what is calling out bad decisions?  We do not know the machinations within the club, we do not know the thinking of the coach etc.  Gombau has put his hand up and said, yep I got it wrong.  Very rare for the coach to say that, often they blame players for not implementing the game plan, or the ref, or other things.  Gombau said he got it wrong and he is sorry to the fans.

Now do you think the fans that are baying for his blood or calling for players to be sacked, will they stand up and say they got it wrong, when we start to win under him?  I doubt they will.  Yes I know people are letting off steam, but they also have to be aware there are consequences for saying stuff, words have meaning.  How many people would vent like this 1 on 1 with the Coach or with any of the players?  

How is selecting Gombau a poor decision? How can one person make such a statement at this point in time?  To do so is at the very best stupid.  But words have meanings, and I can guarantee that the people that say things like that will never be held to account and will in fact forget they even said something like that in the future.  Because for too many people on social media etc, words don't have meaning.

What I am saying is that, given his past coaching experience, Gombau is not a good fit for our club. Not that he is bad instead his style is more suited to a youth league or other developmental competition. Also, fans like you who stick through thick and thin probably would number around 5000, that's not enough to sustain a club.

And, I'm actually a Generation X so maybe I'm getting impatient in my old age!

26 minutes ago, 1988banana said:

In gombau I TRUST ✋😎

Really Banana? Not **** stirring like usual?  

Seriously though, how long are you prepared to give him?

2 hours ago, Posthoc said:

Sorry to those who have decided that Gombeu is going, but Bossi's article is crap.  Why do you guys buy into it, knowing for well he is a Sydney FC journalist.  Don't buy into anything he writes. 

The problem is there are plenty of home truths in the article. We all know who he is & the dribble he writes. The issue is that he has combined together player quotes, Unknown facts, proper observations of our playing style and where the club is at right now with the caveat that it includes his usual garbage.

Some of you have short memories. Remember start of the first season when not only could the team not win a game, but we couldn’t score a goal. 

I am Generstion X and I have patience. So this stuff about Gombau not fitting the club is rubbish. Especially when the players are as responsible as he is for the loss. Some of the players need to swallow a spoonful of cement. They could learn something out of all of this.

Anyway 4 or 5 games is way too short a time to make a clear judgement on whether we have the right coach. 

Yes really , we gave popa a chance in our 3rd season when we were sh1t and hanging on the bottom of the league , come to think of it , popa was changing the style of play that year , come the following year the new style worked out well , so why cant you pricks give gombau a chance , are we real madrid now fmd , let the bloke pick his own players when the time comes , he never went out and picked these players in the off season , popa did , our players are just lazy and dont wanna adjust to the new style of play , an you blokes are having a laugh thinkin it was gonna happen over night 

IN GOMBAU I TRUST ✋😎

LAZY PLAYERS , I DONT 🖕😎

2 hours ago, Zakman said:

The WSW hierarchy, the ones who are supposedly putting the pressure on Gombau, are the ones to blame for this because they simply chose the wrong coach for this club. At this point in our club's history where we are losing fans because of home ground issues etc, there is no place for a coach who wants to implement "a long process". We are Western Sydney - we do not have patience! The hierarchy should have known this which shows that have know clue about what is good for the club!!

bull$h1t.

people in Western Sydney have the patience to sit in traffic for up to 4 hours every day, they can wait for a coach to get his system right and get the right players

A wise man recently said.

Leicester City’s Claude Puel insists priority is winning – not style

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/27/leicester-city-claude-puel-manager

and this 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-media-watch-josep-gombau-under-pressure-after-wanderers-sydney-derby-loss/news-story/3df5ee4bb9f68e6261214322890da421

JOSEP Gombau is under increasing pressure following Western Sydney Wanderers’ capitulation in the Sydney Derby on Saturday.

Fox Sports football expert John Kosmina has revealed “there’s a rift building between the playing group and the coaches”, while fresh reports suggest the Wanderers board are already losing patience with their new coach.

Gombau, who has had five games in charge, is still winless and has lost the last three to leave the A-League powerhouses in ninth spot on the ladder.

The worrying downward spiral left Mark Bosnich describing the Derby demolition as the “darkest day” in the Wanderers’ glowing short history.

“They’ve appointed Josep Gombau to instil a new philosophy which is almost the antithesis to what Tony Popovic was doing and the team aren’t adapting to it.

“From a coaching perspective, having been in that situation having gone into a club midway through the season, you have to work with what you’ve got and you have to keep the wheels turning in the direction they were going. Then you tweak things.

“You can’t just come in and make a massive change because even though there’s no promotion and relegation, the Wanderers are a club that expects to perform. At the moment that looks like it’s a long way off.”

Kosmina added: “A number of players who have come to the club have two year deals because Tony Popovic was the one who brought them in. Now all of a sudden there’s something completely served up to them and they aren’t responding.

“[They] can’t only play one way, they need to be able to put effort in to adapting. It shouldn’t be that hard to find middle ground and they need to because it looks like there’s a rift, a division, building between the playing group and the coach.”

Fairfax Media reported on Sunday that the Derby result “did not go down well with the club’s hierarchy”, with the board already asking questions of the Spaniard’s approach – including formation, style and selection.

The report added: “Doubts have been raised about how the leadership within the team has responded to him.”

Controversially, Gombau chose youngsters Keanu Baccus and Lachlan Scott from the start, while veterans Michael Thwaite and Brendon Santalab sat on the pine. Spanish recruit Raul Llorente was benched in favour of Jack Clisby while fellow foreigner Alvaro Cejudo looked uncomfortable hugging the touching in Gombau’s system which requires extreme width.

Gombau defended his selection decision, saying he will continue to choose the team based on who is best able to perform to his style.

“I am at training and I make a team that I think can do the best job and follow what I am asking to do,” Gombau said. “We will put the style, the players will follow the style … that’s all.”

This article and the comments of Bozza and Kosmina show what’s stupid about what he did - he’s invited all this.

This isn’t about Millennials having no patience, it’s about leadership and bringing people along with you.

You’re not gonna get every muppet on social media to like you (I include myself in that description) but you gotta be smarter than what he showed.

If he picks his best back 4 and wins a tough derby he’s got a free ride for pretty much the rest of the season (at least until the next derby). And all for the cost of delaying his long-term project for a week.

Pretty silly.

Lmao at anyone thinking lederer is going to pay out Gombau 

did he pay out Pio? 

I cant believe everyone falling for bossi’s **** yeah new coach brings new drama only happened like a billion times before 

Kosmina stfu you hopeless f*** , what load of sh1t , where's all the sheep's 🐑     🔪😎

16 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said:

Lmao at anyone thinking lederer is going to pay out Gombau 

did he pay out Pio? 

I cant believe everyone falling for bossi’s **** yeah new coach brings new drama only happened like a billion times before 

In most companies when a new manager comes in and there is a conflict with the employees..... initially the ones that leave are the employees not the manager. 

If all the noise is true expect a few players to go but Josep will stay for a while anyway.

Rofl you guys are too much

gombau is **** loads better as a coach then popovic though you don’t try concept **** vs our rivals in the derby he’s inherited a lot of **** we haven’t had a real marquee since Shinji Ono and probley never will, it’s like popovic signed who ever his assistant said and didn’t scout at all

we’ve missed awesome players every year for what ever reason salary cap hoarding money for the money pile what ever so on any who

moving on

I don’t mean to be racist but I know my Europeans we need poms Germans Croatians  they can take and give hits without throwing fits with having dummy spits like others we need work horses not show pony’s 

cant wait till

January we may steal other clubs talent like the biggest club in the aleague is supposed not sign from the scrap bin

For once lol

Jamie Maclaren for marquee !!!!!!!!!!!!!! A real striker lol

5 minutes ago, JayZko said:

Jamie Maclaren for marquee !!!!!!!!!!!!!! A real striker lol

Dude I think we'd have more of a chance to get Malcolm Maclaren ...even though he's dead!  

Rofl he wants to play and be in a World Cup well this is his chance 

45 minutes ago, JayZko said:

Jamie Maclaren for marquee !!!!!!!!!!!!!! A real striker lol

We still need players that can get the ball to him.

I’m not saying sack Gombau (at least not yet anyway) but

- Saturday was unacceptable in a derby 

- I can’t think of any professional football league where it would be ok for a manager to have the set of results we have had and pass it off as a process or some philosophy crap

- You sort your defence out first before the fancy stuff 

- if he wants to get fans on side then competing in the derby is a must (See Large Sam and Rooney this morning) 

At the moment Gombau is a coming across as an Aldi own brand Brendan Rodgers 

Despite Posthocs somewhat condescending tone we have every right to vent about that effort and Gombau's part in it.

Just hope we get a decent turn out in Gosford.  These are the tough times when we fans have to show we aren't taking our ball and going home.

For all the esoteric posturing about style philosophy & formation culture you still finish the sentence with a 5 zip home Derby drubbing. Facts are stubborn things. I welcome the New Year after our season ends by Xmas because losing 3 points due to over exuberant fans will also amount to zip. As Chairman Gorman once said You can't build a club based on on-field results. 

21 hours ago, btron3000 said:

Something about a flare rebellion you disagree with? Hahaha

The team looks to me like they are caught in a philosophy warp.  It is fine for Gombau to proclaim new philosophy and all that but you always work with what you have.  He earlier said he learned from Ange about changing things quickly.  Maybe that is telling because Ange copped flack and I don't think everyone believes he coached intelligently through the whole qualification - it became philosophy over performance and results.  I get the short term pain for long term gain thing but you work with the people you have, bring them along for the trip and help them grow into your new regime. Gombau has not shown much passion and a complete misunderstanding of the fan base.  We aren't everything but a club without fans isn't much of a club.  yes some of us will stay through thick and thin but stupid player choices in a derby doesn't instill anything in anyone.  Players who were building up and preparing for the derby are on the bench - does that rev them up and deflate them?  What does Santa feel when he is sitting on the bench watching Scott's effort?  i'm not sure what the young fellow is showing in training over and against Santa because he is a yard behind the pace and unsure of where to run and move.  Risdon is a back and looked much more solid there.  Clisby is solid but cannot cross.  The changes and expectations seem, to me, to be confusing and whilst Bossi article contained its share of crap, it also contained some grains of truth.  They looked lost and confused this week.  I confess that if I had to listen and try to interpret Gombau I would be more than confused.  This is the west and we expect something of our club, coach and team.  We don't expect a lot, just for them to understand our culture and work with it.  It isn't a great look for a coach to face the press conference with a straight face and say that he takes responsibility - not sorry and disappointed or anything else.  He expects that things will be bad before the philosophy is grasped and they play differently.  Can't say I have seen anything that has actually advanced our cause in the last few weeks.  I think he would be better served to build the philosophy over some time and work with the players and give them some confidence and nurture change.  I think several were shattered and there is a sense of being helpless and caught in the slipstream of change for changes sake.