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    Wanderers midfielder Andreu Guerao Mayoral scored a brace in Adelaide, unfortunately for his new club however, the first was into the back of his own net.

     

    Andreu scored at the same end, one in each half, the first as a result of a Tarek Elrich run down the left flank. The Australian international fullback's cutback deflected off the head of Mayoral, leaving Andrew Redmayne no chance to make a save.

     

    Once again a failure to apply a finish or killer final ball kept the Wanderers supporters on edge, as Piovaccari, Castelen and Sotirio in particular butchered spectacular chances to provide either a goal or an assist, Sotitio with the worst of the lot when he blazed over from point blank range when he should have been able to score or set up a team-mate to do so.

     

    Defensively the Wanderers were much improved on their loss to Brisbane, giving Adelaide little time or space to work with. Craig Goodwin had the shot of the night for Adelaide, a smashing long range effort that Andrew Redmayne produced a miracle save against, turning the ball onto the crossbar with his fingertips. The save kept his side in the contest before they put the game back on level terms.

     

    The stirring second half comeback was sealed after Andreu pounced on pass from Tarek Elrich deep inside the Red's penalty area that didn't even make it out of the box before being intercepted. The Spanish midfielder skipped easily past a forlorn challenge before he blasted a shot that Adelaide keeper John Hall wasn't able to keep out..


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    Saba could get a start in the ALeague tomorrow..

    look at his twitter account, he always tweets that he's watching our games from his computer, 

    I wonder if we can get him for using illegal online live streams?

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    No sir I don't agree with you sorry the a league is so underestimated it's sickening

    That is why players from the Spanish second tier can come here and be so dominant.

     

    And we've seen how many A-League stars head overseas and have trouble imposing themselves for a first team spot in their first season abroad.

     

    I suppose I can understand your viewpoint if you buy into the media stunts of pre season friendly games involving teams like Chelsea or Tottenham.

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    Saba looked so happy to be here he was an absolute maggot at best

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    Okay, now that the dust has settled and we've had umpteen posts that are as grammatically cohesive as a William S Burroughs poem, some thoughts.

     

    Much improved performance defensively from last week, and whilst Hamill was still tentative NTS did far better, whlst Jamo and Neville on left and right worked their ringholes out. The man at the very back, i.e. the much maligned Redders) was beaten by a horrid own goal deflection, and was rarely otherwise challenged. Good releases helped his rep, but it was that save off Goodwin that was pure class.

     

    The midfield was strong, though I'm still not 100% sold on Dimas. Having said that, as said elsewhere he and Andreu provided plenty of security in the back third, with a far better understanding of how to transition through the middle third. In the newer possession based system of El Popa they are doing what Poljak and La Rocca couldn't last season.

     

     

    The front third, with Mitch, Castelen, Fed & Sotirio was like a milf in a school uniform...promised much and could've delivered but on closer inspection flattered to deceive. Mitch is a fooking engine..he just runs and runs and runs and fooking runs...and does look smarter on the ball than Takahagi did last season. Romeo...well, he just kept over-cooking it. I don't know all the ins and outs of his decision making, and I honestly don't think he's selfish. Maybe he just runs on his own (very much deserved) self-confidence to not just the logical end, but than one step or one kick too far.

     

    As for Piovaccari and Sotirio...Pio needs to start looking like he will score, not just might. And as for Jaushua, as soon as Fathead and Golgol are fit again, or Dario is expected to run the centre or left, well it'll be back to the NYL lads with JS.

     

    One thing that shitted me at times; those short/tikki-takka corners we took. Seriously...WTF?!

     

    In summary, the reboot of Atletico Toongabbie continues apace. Lots to like, some to hate. Onwards & upwards amigos!

     

    Sotiro cannot continue as a starter.......we should've just kept Kubi if thats the case - you cant tell me Fathead would've not buried that open shot

     

    Still giving Fred a chance - but Santa wouldve run his arse off, Mitch...Jamo machines....the guys who were off last week improved and thats all you can hope...Andreu is quality - the own goal was just one of those things...

     

    Castelan so needs to work on his distribution...that extra touch to many is killing me

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    U got to be kidding me federico was the reason we played so **** at times he's an absolute ******* pelican of a marquee

    Sotirio was class every wsw player was awesome expect for federico he was tits on a bull

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    Completely agree with Torcida about Romeo. He needs to put his head up and pass the ball or shoot faarken otherwise he ends up taking one touch too many and everything he's done up to that point is in vein.

     

    Sotirio achieved Kubi 2.0 status tonight, never have rated him, never will, he's just not cut out for the aleague. He's run his course.

     

    Overall I thought we were the better team and deserved to win. We just don't seem to be having much luck, the rub of the green just isn't going our way. I'm pleased we got that point because we deserved that at the very least.

     

    Adelaide are lucky they've got that young keeper in goals to hold the fort adequately while galekovic is away otherwise they'd be 0/2. Wtf is going on with their crowds too? Is there some sort of protest going on? I know the weathers been average the past two weeks for people but **** me thats really concerning how low their crowds have been for the start of a new season...

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    The guy needs to run!!!!

    The only man that needs bagging is federico what's wrong with u people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Did u guys watch the game he's so farking lazy with the ball I wanted to spew every time he was offside every time he was to damn slow We ain't got no time for that

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    I've said it before but I really don't think Sotirio will develop beyond an A-League player. I think in all the games I've seen him involved in, he's managed 1 goal and 1 assist.

     

    He made a few good runs and correct decisions in the first half, but as the game wore on, he offered nothing more. Asides from that sitter he missed, he doesn't seem able to cope when involved in an attacking overload and gets pressured into releasing the ball cheaply when he can't knock it past an opponent.

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    Okay, now that the dust has settled and we've had umpteen posts that are as grammatically cohesive as a William S Burroughs poem, some thoughts.

     

    Much improved performance defensively from last week, and whilst Hamill was still tentative NTS did far better, whlst Jamo and Neville on left and right worked their ringholes out. The man at the very back, i.e. the much maligned Redders) was beaten by a horrid own goal deflection, and was rarely otherwise challenged. Good releases helped his rep, but it was that save off Goodwin that was pure class.

     

    The midfield was strong, though I'm still not 100% sold on Dimas. Having said that, as said elsewhere he and Andreu provided plenty of security in the back third, with a far better understanding of how to transition through the middle third. In the newer possession based system of El Popa they are doing what Poljak and La Rocca couldn't last season.

     

     

    The front third, with Mitch, Castelen, Fed & Sotirio was like a milf in a school uniform...promised much and could've delivered but on closer inspection flattered to deceive. Mitch is a fooking engine..he just runs and runs and runs and fooking runs...and does look smarter on the ball than Takahagi did last season. Romeo...well, he just kept over-cooking it. I don't know all the ins and outs of his decision making, and I honestly don't think he's selfish. Maybe he just runs on his own (very much deserved) self-confidence to not just the logical end, but than one step or one kick too far.

     

    As for Piovaccari and Sotirio...Pio needs to start looking like he will score, not just might. And as for Jaushua, as soon as Fathead and Golgol are fit again, or Dario is expected to run the centre or left, well it'll be back to the NYL lads with JS.

     

    One thing that shitted me at times; those short/tikki-takka corners we took. Seriously...WTF?!

     

    In summary, the reboot of Atletico Toongabbie continues apace. Lots to like, some to hate. Onwards & upwards amigos!

     

    Sotiro cannot continue as a starter.......we should've just kept Kubi if thats the case - you cant tell me Fathead would've not buried that open shot

     

    Still giving Fred a chance - but Santa wouldve run his arse off, Mitch...Jamo machines....the guys who were off last week improved and thats all you can hope...Andreu is quality - the own goal was just one of those things...

     

    Castelan so needs to work on his distribution...that extra touch to many is killing me

     

    Overall I didn't think it was a good performance , thankfully Adelaide were useless. First half was promising but second half we appeared to be running around like headless chooks at times. Structure fell apart.

     

    Redmayne made one top save and looked more confident this week , but the  test will come when he is put under real pressure.

     

    The defence looked vulnerable , not compact at all and had more holes than a string bag. Teams that play through balls between the defenders will skin us and score heaps. Neville is likely a statue when players run at him. Jamo has to be careful not to be caught out of position as under this new system there is no cover, Hamill well , he makes me nervous every time the ball gets near him.

     

    The midfield looked promising.

     

    In attack Sotirio's finishing is a joke and there is a lack of positioning and creation of space for Pio. Castelen played well but needs to building a combination and understanding with Pio. 

     

    The other concern is the pathetic lack of depth in the squad especially in the striker position. Sure we have injuries at the moment but we always will. With 3 yellow cards tonight there also be suspensions to further test the depth.

     

    I think the team would improve if we played more defensively and on the break.

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    One thing that shitted me at times; those short/tikki-takka corners we took. Seriously...WTF?!

     

     

    This bothers me also. Short corners are largely ineffective unless taken quickly and used sparingly.

     

    Jamieson can whip in a cross with a bit of bend. Piovaccari offers physical presence. Andreu has the technique to shoot from the edge of the box. Why not just whip one into the right area and hope for the best?

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    sotirio reminds a little of bernie-in-a-beanie a couple of years ago. Final pass or Shot Very poor.

    However he is still a teenager and ibini improved into his early twenties.

    sotirio still has time on his side but at this moment in time he shouldn't be a starter when we have everyone fit

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    Its still too early in the season to judge Piovaccari. Its only been two A-league games proper. Its a new league, a new style of play in a new team, little or no english in pretty hot conditions for a player who is used to playing in cooler temperatures. He is getting absolutely no service and he got nothing today. Either that final ball was strayed or Castellan went on his own. For what its worth the striker position is possibly the hardest position in the team to fill. Not easy finding a striker who can bag 10+ A league goals a season. 

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    Overall I didn't think it was a good performance , thankfully Adelaide were useless. First half was promising but second half we appeared to be running around like headless chooks at times. Structure fell apart.

     

    Redmayne made one top save and looked more confident this week , but the test will come when he is put under real pressure.

     

    The defence looked vulnerable , not compact at all and had more holes than a string bag. Teams that play through balls between the defenders will skin us and score heaps. Neville is likely a statue when players run at him. Jamo has to be careful not to be caught out of position as under this new system there is no cover, Hamill well , he makes me nervous every time the ball gets near him.

     

    The midfield looked promising.

     

    In attack Sotirio's finishing is a joke and there is a lack of positioning and creation of space for Pio. Castelen played well but needs to building a combination and understanding with Pio.

     

    The other concern is the pathetic lack of depth in the squad especially in the striker position. Sure we have injuries at the moment but we always will. With 3 yellow cards tonight there also be suspensions to further test the depth.

     

    I think the team would improve if we played more defensively and on the break.

    I will agree that Adelaide have looked out of sorts this round and last round. Too many stray passes. Little cohesion. Yet, they still had the key players to enable them to employ frustrating tactics - "tranquillo" - playing keep ball at the back with lots of sideways passing. Occasionally, the Wanderers players would press more aggressively as the frustration grew, opening up spaces behind the fullbacks. Adelaide played intelligently and patiently enough to wait for those openings. I thought we defended diligently overall.

     

    The stoppers made some wayward passes again tonight, though they often tried to play through Dimas or Andreu rather than more ambitious long balls. I thought that was a plus. I'm guessing their passing percentages would have been up tonight as a result.

     

    The team looked hugely improved on attacking transitions tonight. Pio was largely invisible though Castelen's influence and Nichols' energy, determination and off the ball movement was impressive.

     

    We can realistically win next week and it was almost entirely our inefficacy that prevented us picking up 3 points today.

     

    Its still too early in the season to judge Piovaccari. Its only been two A-league games proper. Its a new league, a new style of play in a new team, little or no english in pretty hot conditions for a player who is used to playing in cooler temperatures. He is getting absolutely no service and he got nothing today. Either that final ball was strayed or Castellan went on his own. For what its worth the striker position is possibly the hardest position in the team to fill. Not easy finding a striker who can bag 10+ A league goals a season.

     

    When you're prepared to pay $750k a season, you could build a shortlist of at least a dozen off-contract targets.

     

    He needs to improve. He had less involvement tonight than against Brisbane. A striker of his quality should be able to fashion at least one shot on goal in 90 minutes of play. I think the key is building an understanding with Castelen. Those two are not on the same wavelength though could form the most lethal combination in A-League history if they were.

     

    I still think his record speaks for itself. Putting Vidosic on the left will start to open some more space.

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    just watched the game, maybe I watched a different game but I thought Scott Neville was pretty solid tonight, impressed me.

     

    Pio had good & bad moments, his through ball for Sotirio was mint, just wish he would chase & pressure defenders more.

     

    I think we are missing Santa as a sub with his pressure on defenders, we looked flat m in the 2nd half with our pressure just before we scored. but in saying that we cant keep pressuring non stop for 90 mins.

     

    Nicholls is impressing me more every game, he just does not stop running :)

     

    a well earned point, although I felt we deserved 3.

     

    bring on the smurf ****s

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    Okay, now that the dust has settled and we've had umpteen posts that are as grammatically cohesive as a William S Burroughs poem, some thoughts.

     

    Much improved performance defensively from last week, and whilst Hamill was still tentative NTS did far better, whlst Jamo and Neville on left and right worked their ringholes out. The man at the very back, i.e. the much maligned Redders) was beaten by a horrid own goal deflection, and was rarely otherwise challenged. Good releases helped his rep, but it was that save off Goodwin that was pure class.

     

    The midfield was strong, though I'm still not 100% sold on Dimas. Having said that, as said elsewhere he and Andreu provided plenty of security in the back third, with a far better understanding of how to transition through the middle third. In the newer possession based system of El Popa they are doing what Poljak and La Rocca couldn't last season.

     

     

    The front third, with Mitch, Castelen, Fed & Sotirio was like a milf in a school uniform...promised much and could've delivered but on closer inspection flattered to deceive. Mitch is a fooking engine..he just runs and runs and runs and fooking runs...and does look smarter on the ball than Takahagi did last season. Romeo...well, he just kept over-cooking it. I don't know all the ins and outs of his decision making, and I honestly don't think he's selfish. Maybe he just runs on his own (very much deserved) self-confidence to not just the logical end, but than one step or one kick too far.

     

    As for Piovaccari and Sotirio...Pio needs to start looking like he will score, not just might. And as for Jaushua, as soon as Fathead and Golgol are fit again, or Dario is expected to run the centre or left, well it'll be back to the NYL lads with JS.

     

    One thing that shitted me at times; those short/tikki-takka corners we took. Seriously...WTF?!

     

    In summary, the reboot of Atletico Toongabbie continues apace. Lots to like, some to hate. Onwards & upwards amigos!

     

    Sotiro cannot continue as a starter.......we should've just kept Kubi if thats the case - you cant tell me Fathead would've not buried that open shot

     

    Still giving Fred a chance - but Santa wouldve run his arse off, Mitch...Jamo machines....the guys who were off last week improved and thats all you can hope...Andreu is quality - the own goal was just one of those things...

     

    Castelan so needs to work on his distribution...that extra touch to many is killing me

     

    Overall I didn't think it was a good performance , thankfully Adelaide were useless. First half was promising but second half we appeared to be running around like headless chooks at times. Structure fell apart.

     

    Redmayne made one top save and looked more confident this week , but the  test will come when he is put under real pressure.

     

    The defence looked vulnerable , not compact at all and had more holes than a string bag. Teams that play through balls between the defenders will skin us and score heaps. Neville is likely a statue when players run at him. Jamo has to be careful not to be caught out of position as under this new system there is no cover, Hamill well , he makes me nervous every time the ball gets near him.

     

    The midfield looked promising.

     

    In attack Sotirio's finishing is a joke and there is a lack of positioning and creation of space for Pio. Castelen played well but needs to building a combination and understanding with Pio. 

     

    The other concern is the pathetic lack of depth in the squad especially in the striker position. Sure we have injuries at the moment but we always will. With 3 yellow cards tonight there also be suspensions to further test the depth.

     

    I think the team would improve if we played more defensively and on the break.

     

     

    :crap:

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    I think we are missing Santa as a sub with his pressure on defenders, we looked flat m in the 2nd half with our pressure just before we scored. but in saying that we cant keep pressuring non stop for 90 mins.

     

    Nicholls is impressing me more every game, he just does not stop running :)

     

     

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Nichols has ever worked quite this hard before. His attitude was the most pleasing part of the point earned tonight. The way he put his head down and continued to work, despite the early setback. The way he chased down loose balls and came up with slide tackles to win the ball. The way continued to make runs off the ball right until the final whistle.

     

    Nichols will feature for the Socceroos this year. Popa has already achieved much with him just 2 rounds into the season.

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    Redmayne takes too long to distribute sometimes.

     

    Castelen needs to execute the final ball a little quicker and with some more decisiveness. Other than that, he's a class act.

     

    Own goal was unfortunate. Would've been good to come away with all 3 but none of that matters now. It's derby week! Love it.

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    At times towards the end of the game, I think Redmaynes distribution could have been a bit quicker, but you have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is waiting for the team to get ready.

     

    If an option is open, I would prefer Redmayne to throw the ball. His distribution isn't the best, and it allows the team to further work on playing it out of the back.

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    Difficult having the derby this weekend I think the ream needed another hitout without thehype it will put on them vidosic has to start soitiro has to be persisted with but maybe not a starter. We dont have much depth that will take longer.

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    Completely agree with Torcida about Romeo. He needs to put his head up and pass the ball or shoot faarken otherwise he ends up taking one touch too many and everything he's done up to that point is in vein.

     

    Sotirio achieved Kubi 2.0 status tonight, never have rated him, never will, he's just not cut out for the aleague. He's run his course.

     

    Overall I thought we were the better team and deserved to win. We just don't seem to be having much luck, the rub of the green just isn't going our way. I'm pleased we got that point because we deserved that at the very least.

     

    Adelaide are lucky they've got that young keeper in goals to hold the fort adequately while galekovic is away otherwise they'd be 0/2. Wtf is going on with their crowds too? Is there some sort of protest going on? I know the weathers been average the past two weeks for people but **** me thats really concerning how low their crowds have been for the start of a new season...

     

    I agree that Romeo needs to get his head up and make quicker / better decisions, but I disagree with Torc on dropping him from the side.

     

    Having a player who can run  at pace and genuinely beat 2 or 3 people is fantastic to have, he almost does the hard work and gets us in the good positions.

     

    If you dropped a player like Romeo you would soon be shouting about lack of creativity around the box. I remember in season 1 when Hersi was out we looked lost up front and didn't know how to play the ball forward / switch it, that was one of the reasons we lost the season 1 GF. Romeo for me has a similar impact. Yes he is frustrating as ***** but I would put him in the starting 11 every time if fit, he would be one of the first names on my team sheet. I love watching his runs, they get you up and sitting on the edge of your seat.... and then yes you get the frustration. Lets see how he does with someone like Santa back in the side as not many people appreciate how Santa can pull defenders out of position and create space around the box, Santa might be the nuisance around the box that Romeo needs to give him that extra second to make a good decision.

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    I don't get to watch the WSW live on TV much. Yesterday was a reminder that "watching" a game in the active area is much more relaxing than sitting on the couch, all tensed up, tearing pieces out of the arm rest.

     

    I had to think of our last game (?) in Adelaide were the Reds had a felt 89% possession. Yesterday was a very different cattle of fish. It becomes clearer why La Rocca and Poljak are now elsewhere. Looking forward to Alberto, Bridgey, and Santa joining the fun.

     

    Castelen: apart from his Appiah-like decision making yesterday he was a bomb. High running rate, always there, always threatening. Not a bad performance from a former long term invalid.

     

    Sotirio is like Appiah: a Ferrari without a steering wheel.

     

    Pioviccari hasn't arrived yet, like Janko same time last year.

     

    All the others were sh1t. Dreadful recruiting. Popa out.

     

    Edit: in the post march Vidosic interview a Reds supporter was making a visible grand exit with a smokie. Didn't see him flattened by riot police.

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    sotirio reminds a little of bernie-in-a-beanie a couple of years ago. Final pass or Shot Very poor.

    However he is still a teenager and ibini improved into his early twenties.

    sotirio still has time on his side but at this moment in time he shouldn't be a starter when we have everyone fit

    He has the vision of Andrea Boccelli. If he doesn't have it now, he won't develop it.

     

    Fed is pants. Looks like a lazy sod.

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    Castelen is the jewel in our crown. Unique quality that lights the field up. Mitch and Jamo - super charged pistons and Dario the marquee to take us to the next level. I wanted nothing less than a win but the draw felt good enough given the way we closed it out and chances created. Proud of the fifty or so of us that traveled many of which do not post and travel constantly backing this team without fanfare. Unsung heroes so unlike some of the keyboard warriors and finger tip Actives.

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    Yeah, it was frustrating but signs are promising. We are one or two touches away from clicking. If that happens we're dangerous every week. Adelaide looked mediocre as does everyone else in the league at the moment, including Victory.

     

    Whether we get it together in time to make an impact this season is the question.

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    Just bumped into the team at Adelaide Airport. All very approachable. Told them 3 points is a must next week. They know.

    Also passing through the airport was Norm and his W-League squad on their way to their game against Adelaide tonight.

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    Just bumped into the team at Adelaide Airport. All very approachable. Told them 3 points is a must next week. They know.

    Also passing through the airport was Norm and his W-League squad on their way to their game against Adelaide tonight.

     

    That's the spirit.

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    I thought, despite the unfortunate own goal, Andreu was excellent last night. His vision and passing range is something that we were desperately lacking last season. That through ball past 3-4 Reds defenders to Castelen (who was offside) in the box, wow! :shok::woah:

     

    Nichols was again excellent, he's one of our most consistent performers so far, has made a huge improvement to the squad.

    Castelen frustrates. He's creating so many opportunities, and can be really effective, except too often he holds on to the ball for too long (when he should either pass or shoot). I'm hoping with more game time he'll start interacting more with the other attacking players, rather than always trying to do it all himself.

    Sotirio was as, if not more, frustrating than Castelen. I think he has more to offer than Appiah did, but he needs to work on his tactical sense, which may be easier said than done. And that sitter he completely shanked didn't help.

    Piovaccari, the jury is still out. Can definitely see a lot of quality but he isn't getting the required service yet. It's a combination of both him and his team mates not quite firing together, but I'm hoping we see the Pied Piper in the derby.

    Bring Bridge and Vidosic (and Alberto?) into the starting line up and we're looking pretty dangerous. It's great to be entertained whilst watching us play again.

    The big question is, with Bridge and Vidosic fit, who drops to the bench? Does Nichols retain the #10 (where he has performed really well), or drop deeper - pushing a Spaniard (Dimas?) to the bench?

     

    Will we ever see Popa start without two CM/DCM players?

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