Asian Debut Ends In Defeat

There's no point in crying....Iv'e just emptied my third box of tissues. I just heard a NSW Police bulletin about a missing Korean basketball player was last seen wandering around the Pirtek stadium area last night, goes by the name of "Lofty Peaks".

I'm not superstitious but did our back four all walk under a "black cat" yesterday?? 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl game.

Strong effort by the boys, but a few lapses cost us.

It was great to be there. I had similar feelings to our first ever a-league game - a 11k crowd, going into the unknown, a thunderstorm. Good times

What was best was the great crowd response at the end. Lots of cheers and applause - no booing as we sadly have seen a few times with the larger crowds this season. No, the 11k fans there last night love this club - this loss won't faze us

is it just my imagination or does most key moments in the wanderers history involve rain?

Across the board it seems the A-Leaguerers are thereabout's but not quite 'there' yet. Maybe the salary cap issue is as big a one as Man City could buy a title and several small Balkan states to boot. In the middle of 56 last night and very clear to me there was no pyro saw no pyro and inhaled no pyro. The dizzying heights of the ACL maybe making some people see things that are not actually there. Why such vivid imagination features prominently in our own match report is concerning. Will 35k buy the Mariners cannon and keep some of our own content?  

1-3 is a popular losing score for us. I thought we dominated the game but once again we couldn't turn these 5 minute tirades into goals. Someone needs to have a shot, particularly on a wet night, we look for the killer pass every time which basically turns out to be one touch too many and we're back to square 1. They had a handful of chances (mostly off our mistakes) and scored 3, we had half a million and scored 1. Our finishing needs some real working on.

That 8 foot BFG up front in the last 5 years has scored over 80 goals and played CB and CDM. Pretty handy. It appeared they build a lot of their structure around him, take him out and I reckon they'd be a different team

Just a thought...how would we have gone with a certain big lumbering bald sainted left boot wielding Croatian marksman up front instead of our sad mix of inept ground passes and aversion to shooting on goal except for the first minute of the game...

was thinking some thing similar Lol. 

Even though its only our second season the team needs a freshen up beyond Spira and Santa i reckon.

Last night they were too big, too strong and too smart. You don't mind loosing to a team like that but we didnt make it that hard for them really.

forgot to add

i thought $10 bucks for a program was a bit rich

 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

 

 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

 

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

 

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

Yes agree Polenz was off yesterday and made a few errors but this doesn't happen often, D'appuzzo didn't contribute to first two goals but he doesn't do enough to track back for defense and is vulnerable on counter attacks like 3rd goal pulling down the player after being beat giving away free kick leading up to goal. He gets caught out to much in my opinion weekly and if I were an opposition coach I would target him. I don't see him getting another contract for next season

LMC even my wife commented in the black shorts!

Overall the game was okay we created some really good chances NTS and Ono probaby should have found the net with their headers and Santa wth that one on one but great first time strike early on!

The 3 goals all come because of poor headed clearances for polenz, Spira and la rocca - ball has to go up and out not back in Spira and polenz case or low in case of la rocca

It was mentioned they would live off the second ball and they did every goal came from it

Would have rather got carved up 3 times and say yep Ulsan too good for us but that wasn't the case

That what is disappointing about the game

Still we can hold our heads high and take some confidence from it

Off field stuff no point on commenting about idiots will be idiots

Also fantastic tifo - hearing praise everywhere for it this morning!

Spira did not cause any of their goals, Polenz caused the first two by heading back into the middle of the goal box and the last was La Rocca being a bit unlucky with heading it back and hitting Polenz which then fell kindly to there player.

 

 

 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

 

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

Yes agree Polenz was off yesterday and made a few errors but this doesn't happen often, D'appuzzo didn't contribute to first two goals but he doesn't do enough to track back for defense and is vulnerable on counter attacks like 3rd goal pulling down the player after being beat giving away free kick leading up to goal. He gets caught out to much in my opinion weekly and if I were an opposition coach I would target him. I don't see him getting another contract for next season

 

I was not that upset at d'Apuzzo last night as from memory I only saw him out of position defensively once or twice. It may be more a problem that he contributed nothing offensively which he and Bridge were far better at all of 2012/13 than this season.

As for Jerome I've said it before and say it again; he wasn't match fit. He's had about 1.5 games in what...five-six weeks? If he was on his usual song he'd have coped no worries. 

The guy who arguably let us down (and I hate the idea of using that term) was NTS. He just couldn't put a foot right for most of the match. But he was hardly alone in the not good enough stakes. It was a crap night that is possibly the first really ordinary performance we've seen from our guys.

And not enough is being stressed about how good Ulsan are. The A-League and its standards are still not able to match those in the J and K Leagues, plus the money thrown at their clubs makes ESFC look like S-vagina-thorpe United. 

Let's enjoy the ride, hope it takes us further than we maybe expect or believe it may on last nights result, and remember that no matter the score we sing win or lose.

Haha.

Censorship of S****horpe

 

 

 

 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

 

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

Yes agree Polenz was off yesterday and made a few errors but this doesn't happen often, D'appuzzo didn't contribute to first two goals but he doesn't do enough to track back for defense and is vulnerable on counter attacks like 3rd goal pulling down the player after being beat giving away free kick leading up to goal. He gets caught out to much in my opinion weekly and if I were an opposition coach I would target him. I don't see him getting another contract for next season

 

 

I was not that upset at d'Apuzzo last night as from memory I only saw him out of position defensively once or twice. It may be more a problem that he contributed nothing offensively which he and Bridge were far better at all of 2012/13 than this season.

As for Jerome I've said it before and say it again; he wasn't match fit. He's had about 1.5 games in what...five-six weeks? If he was on his usual song he'd have coped no worries. 

The guy who arguably let us down (and I hate the idea of using that term) was NTS. He just couldn't put a foot right for most of the match. But he was hardly alone in the not good enough stakes. It was a crap night that is possibly the first really ordinary performance we've seen from our guys.

 

And not enough is being stressed about how good Ulsan are. The A-League and its standards are still not able to match those in the J and K Leagues, plus the money thrown at their clubs makes ESFC look like S****horpe United. 

 

Let's enjoy the ride, hope it takes us further than we maybe expect or believe it may on last nights result, and remember that no matter the score we sing win or lose.

 

Thanks Manfred you have just slighted one of my favourite teams and coupled them with "High Tea FC."

One of my favourite pieces of graffiti appeared on the underground in London many moons ago..."If Typhoo put the T in Britain who put the c***t in S****horpe" ya just don't see graffiti like that anymore.

There...that fixed the auto-censor

 

 

 

 

 

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

 

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

Yes agree Polenz was off yesterday and made a few errors but this doesn't happen often, D'appuzzo didn't contribute to first two goals but he doesn't do enough to track back for defense and is vulnerable on counter attacks like 3rd goal pulling down the player after being beat giving away free kick leading up to goal. He gets caught out to much in my opinion weekly and if I were an opposition coach I would target him. I don't see him getting another contract for next season

 

 

I was not that upset at d'Apuzzo last night as from memory I only saw him out of position defensively once or twice. It may be more a problem that he contributed nothing offensively which he and Bridge were far better at all of 2012/13 than this season.

As for Jerome I've said it before and say it again; he wasn't match fit. He's had about 1.5 games in what...five-six weeks? If he was on his usual song he'd have coped no worries. 

The guy who arguably let us down (and I hate the idea of using that term) was NTS. He just couldn't put a foot right for most of the match. But he was hardly alone in the not good enough stakes. It was a crap night that is possibly the first really ordinary performance we've seen from our guys.

 

And not enough is being stressed about how good Ulsan are. The A-League and its standards are still not able to match those in the J and K Leagues, plus the money thrown at their clubs makes ESFC look like S****horpe United. 

 

Let's enjoy the ride, hope it takes us further than we maybe expect or believe it may on last nights result, and remember that no matter the score we sing win or lose.

 

 

 

Thanks Manfred you have just slighted one of my favourite teams and coupled them with "High Tea FC."

 

One of my favourite pieces of graffiti appeared on the underground in London many moons ago..."If Typhoo put the T in Britain who put the c***t in S****horpe" ya just don't see graffiti like that anymore.

 

Don't bring Scunny into this, been to their ground a number of times as used to live not far away at one point. Interesting fact...Ian Beefy Botham used to play for them.

I was expecting a lot more play acting and time wasting once they equalised. Even more so when they went up.

But it wasn't that bad.

Go watch the SFC vs Shanghai game.

THAT was bad for time wasting.

This is so true, and we can be very grateful that the "play-acting" made very few appearances last night.  In past games I've been to (SFC and even last year's Mariners game) opposition players were being stretchered off the field throughout the games to an infuriating extent, only to get to the side line and jog back on.  Repeatedly ruined the flow of play. 

I hope it didn't mean that they felt so comfortable and not really threatened that they didn't need to resort to such tactics.

If anyone can torrent the game or has a link plz PM me.

I just checked on Polenz on the ultimatealeague web site and was surprised to see that he had only played 78 minutes in the last 8 weeks.  I knew he hadn't played much but not that little.  He is without doubt one of our best players when in form but its hardly surprising that he was a bit rusty last night.

What made me check him out is a thread started by the self appointed technical guru on 442 who wrote the opinion that we missed out big time in letting Elrich go as he is better going forward than Polenz ( and D'Appuzzo) and better at overlapping play.  I must say I am surprised by this opinion because my recollection of last season, when we had both players on our books, is that we lost out significantly in our attacking play when Polenz was not available.  

Thoughts please. 

I just checked on Polenz on the ultimatealeague web site and was surprised to see that he had only played 78 minutes in the last 8 weeks. I knew he hadn't played much but not that little. He is without doubt one of our best players when in form but its hardly surprising that he was a bit rusty last night.

 

What made me check him out is a thread started by the self appointed technical guru on 442 who wrote the opinion that we missed out big time in letting Elrich go as he is better going forward than Polenz ( and D'Appuzzo) and better at overlapping play. I must say I am surprised by this opinion because my recollection of last season, when we had both players on our books, is that we lost out significantly in our attacking play when Polenz was not available.

 

Thoughts please.

Polenz has barely played lately, has barely played at all with Hersi and that is where we killed it last year. Add dips in form and its not a great look.

Elrich has free reign in Adelaide. Simply, when he played for us he didn't perform fantastically.

Also... there is going forward and overlapping, and then there is doing it effectively.

Elrich has been OK this year but not great.

Can Elrich play LB?

we can do this. that game last night pumped me up. we scored and we know we can defend i think the next game the guys are going to be really hungry for it, i can see a second wind for the band wagon and when we make it big asia.

I agree,, it's all Manfred's fault.....

With regards to the game.. we can analyse the bejasus out of it which is good and as supporters who attend each game we are certainly entitled to. Just a couple of my own observations....No question that the goals conceded resulted from bad luck coupled with sloppy defence.

As mentioned previously I think their homework on us paid off, The Polenz - Hersi attack combination was nullified (which has been one of our main attack weapons against many an opposition)..yes, maybe Polenz was lacking in match fitness not sure? 

On the left side, both D'appuzo and Bridge very flat (like yesterdays stale beer ) poor linkage from midfield to both flanks. Just by the way I thought Spiro was easily our best player. No option now but to learn and improve.

We wore black shorts!

How happy do you think ATP is?

Don't bring Scunny into this, been to their ground a number of times as used to live not far away at one point. Interesting fact...Ian Beefy Botham used to play for them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree,, it's all Manfred's fault.....

 

With regards to the game.. we can analyse the bejasus out of it which is good and as supporters who attend each game we are certainly entitled to. Just a couple of my own observations....No question that the goals conceded resulted from bad luck coupled with sloppy defence.

As mentioned previously I think their homework on us paid off, The Polenz - Hersi attack combination was nullified (which has been one of our main attack weapons against many an opposition)..yes, maybe Polenz was lacking in match fitness not sure? 

 

On the left side, both D'appuzo and Bridge very flat (like yesterdays stale beer ) poor linkage from midfield to both flanks. Just by the way I thought Spiro was easily our best player. No option now but to learn and improve.

He puts the **** in S****horpe.

Can Elrich play LB?

umm maybe A-league doesn't do loan deals between clubs. So he has to stay in Adelaide 

The other two teams from our group

 

 

The other two teams from our group

Based on the walk out jackets our boys versus those these guys were wearing our team will freeze unless we have some new coats coming!!!

everyone missing a major factor (that's reoccurring), D'appuzzo getting lapped every time on the left, getting caught in possession and then being out of position. Silly fouls that lead to goals, im not sure if this guy is doing poppas accounts or something but how he gets a run each week baffles me. If I was an opposing manager my game plan would be attack attack attack the left.

 

Yes he was poor and is frustrating to watch and mentioned this in the other game thread, needs to be dropped as spends to much time trying to attack and not track back compared to Polenz who knows how to position himself on the other side. Teams will target him especially quality asian opponents, time to give cole or heff a go for next Acl

 

I love Polenz, but his defensive errors directly led to the first & second goal for Ulsan.

 

Please explain how D'appuzzo is at fault for these?

 

Yes agree Polenz was off yesterday and made a few errors but this doesn't happen often, D'appuzzo didn't contribute to first two goals but he doesn't do enough to track back for defense and is vulnerable on counter attacks like 3rd goal pulling down the player after being beat giving away free kick leading up to goal. He gets caught out to much in my opinion weekly and if I were an opposition coach I would target him. I don't see him getting another contract for next season

 

I was not that upset at d'Apuzzo last night as from memory I only saw him out of position defensively once or twice. It may be more a problem that he contributed nothing offensively which he and Bridge were far better at all of 2012/13 than this season.

As for Jerome I've said it before and say it again; he wasn't match fit. He's had about 1.5 games in what...five-six weeks? If he was on his usual song he'd have coped no worries. 

The guy who arguably let us down (and I hate the idea of using that term) was NTS. He just couldn't put a foot right for most of the match. But he was hardly alone in the not good enough stakes. It was a crap night that is possibly the first really ordinary performance we've seen from our guys.

 

And not enough is being stressed about how good Ulsan are. The A-League and its standards are still not able to match those in the J and K Leagues, plus the money thrown at their clubs makes ESFC look like S****horpe United. 

 

Let's enjoy the ride, hope it takes us further than we maybe expect or believe it may on last nights result, and remember that no matter the score we sing win or lose.

 

 

Thanks Manfred you have just slighted one of my favourite teams and coupled them with "High Tea FC."

 

One of my favourite pieces of graffiti appeared on the underground in London many moons ago..."If Typhoo put the T in Britain who put the c***t in S****horpe" ya just don't see graffiti like that anymore.

Don't bring Scunny into this, been to their ground a number of times as used to live not far away at one point. Interesting fact...Ian Beefy Botham used to play for them.

Kevin Keegan n Ray Clemence also turned out for S****horpe!

The away numbers looked impressive last night and came through well on the TV, good to see them all make the difficult and time consuming trip all the way from Eastwood. 

Wanderland might just have gained a whole lot of new recruits!