Defensive Error Hands Mariners Point

Tactical awareness and discipline is missing.

 

No doubt about it.

Watched from 416, directly above RBB. No organisation. 2 Wanderers players competing for the same loose ball, only for it to fall to a CCM player... Poor use of available space as the match went on.

Popa's current tactics remind me of Brendan Rogers when he was at Liverpool. Rogers had no ability to read the game, & consequently had no tactical awareness. He never changed formation to adapt to the game & made questionable, inappropriate substitutions at crucial stages of matches.

If we do not have the appropriate players for 4231 (which never changes, allowing opposing teams to see right through us & denying ourselves any advantage) then why not play 352 or 343? We may not have the required players for these formations, but we only need to score 1 more than the opposition for 3 points. FFS.

So people demanding earlier than 7 50, what is the perfect option? Is 7 30 okay or still too late for the kiddies? What if we move it to 6 40? Oh wait thats dinnertime, ruins the reservations. What about 5 30? Oh sun might be in our eyes. Are we ******* serious about complaining about a Saturday night scheduling? Have a listen to yourselves.

Disappointing performance.

Disappointing crowd.

Disappointing train situation. Parramatta station is a trek from Pirtek and further from Central, but it takes me longer to get home from SOP.

Disappointing what happened to Manfred. I'll let him elaborate.

RBB was fun though. My World did well considering half of the actives looked around like we were singing in Swahili

Cross floats in perfectly, keeper scrambling, defenders in all sorts. Fast approaching is Neville at the back stick, eyes on the prize, ready to pounce. What does he do? Takes every ounce of venom out of the chance and gently nods the ball into the Izzo's thankful arms hahaha I love that man, just peak Neville that was. What was he thinking...?

Cross floats in perfectly, keeper scrambling, defenders in all sorts. Fast approaching is Neville at the back stick, eyes on the prize, ready to pounce. What does he do? Takes every ounce of venom out of the chance and gently nods the ball into the Izzo's thankful arms hahaha I love that man, just peak Neville that was. What was he thinking...?

Yep remember seeing that and saying perfect safe back pass header to Redmayne.  " Oh wait that wasn't Redmayne but ***** Izzo the opposition keeper lol" 

So people demanding earlier than 7 50, what is the perfect option? Is 7 30 okay or still too late for the kiddies? What if we move it to 6 40? Oh wait thats dinnertime, ruins the reservations. What about 5 30? Oh sun might be in our eyes. Are we ******* serious about complaining about a Saturday night scheduling? Have a listen to yourselves.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not complaining about 1 home game bring at 7:50pm.

I am complaining about ALL our home games being at 7:50pm!!!

That's not family friendly, and will result in smaller crowds, even if we were 1st on the ladder.

I'd liked to have taken my 1 year old to the match tonight, but I had to leave him at home because it's just too late a finish.

Will have to wait till the 5pm game out at Campbelltown in January before that will happen.

Having said that, I think the Club needs to have another go at explaining how to release seats, because obviously that isn't happening enough again this season.

that was a ******* GWS crowd, not in atmosphere but in numbers

 

 

 

King Mitch should've had a hat trick.

Wasn't Redmaynes fault, and all the people booing at full time need to pipe down.

 

They pay their money, they are perfectly entitled to boo if they are unhappy at what their money has bought them.

If people want to boo I guess they can, I prefer it if people don't and isn't something I would do personally. Some odd decisions from Popa, wont have a pop at him as he has proved time after time that he gets it right eventually, but very frustrating times indeed.

The people booing are ridiculous like small brats chucking a tantrum when things don't go their way . In my experience they have the least football knowledge of anyone in the crowd and the least loyalty quite often turning up every 3rd or 4th game if we are not winning .

They usually become pathologically obsessed with bagging one player ( atm its redmayne but dino, d'appuzo, bridge , haliti , golec , ruka etc have copped it in the past ) .

I find that these people are kaarnts and I make it my mission to let them know during the game . **** off you negative pricks with your half glass empty attitudes . Just **** right off and die !

On a positive note when we have a bad performance we usually don't see them for a while .

"If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win."

Bill Shankly

(Apologies for the 2nd LFC reference in this thread.)

also the line up does not matter its always the same ****, get a bunch of chances and miss them and they score at the end

and why the **** did i have a bunch of central coast mariners fans near me?

Cornthwaite, more like Cornflake amirite?

 

Tactical awareness and discipline is missing.

 

No doubt about it.

Watched from 416, directly above RBB. No organisation. 2 Wanderers players competing for the same loose ball, only for it to fall to a CCM player... Poor use of available space as the match went on.

 

Popa's current tactics remind me of Brendan Rogers when he was at Liverpool. Rogers had no ability to read the game, & consequently had no tactical awareness. He never changed formation to adapt to the game & made questionable, inappropriate substitutions at crucial stages of matches.

 

If we do not have the appropriate players for 4231 (which never changes, allowing opposing teams to see right through us & denying ourselves any advantage) then why not play 352 or 343? We may not have the required players for these formations, but we only need to score 1 more than the opposition for 3 points. FFS.

 

a 3-5-2 would have been more plausible in this game to get on the front foot to win the game but Popa does not like to play a 2nd striker... he is too stubborn and believes his system still works regardless.

Arnie knows what game plan Popa has and thats why he has the wood on us for the last 3 seasons... teams are able to easily figure us out very easily as the game goes on. If you remember in S3 in the first derby, we were up 2-0, Arnie changes his tactics and the Smurfs were able to pull one back and they go on to win the game.

If we are down 2-0, Popa will use the same substitution, the same tactics and nothing changes.

 

 

Why 7.50pm start? A lot of supporters have little ones (kids).10pm finish is tough if you have to get them home and into bed.I bet you'll find the earlier games are better attended.

 

*Yawn* Just another crap excuse. 7 30 really going to change things? Just call us Goldilocks FC. Time for people to harden up and actually support our team. 12k on a Saturday night? ******* pathetic.

This is what I love about our Club and our Supporters - We get the biggest crowd of the 3 games played so far this weekend, and we're still not satisfied.

 

Seriously though, the Club needs to do a better job explaining to members how to pass on their tickets.

Especially after the stuff up with the round 1 Derby ticketing.

It's not going to happen.

People just are not going to give back or pass on tickets. The amount who will do it will be minimal.

The train situation around here is bullsh1t.

 

i had to wait over a ******* hour for a train, what a load of **** its ******* horrible trying to get back to the hawkesbury from ******* olympic park, they have 10 trains to ******* penrith to every 1 richmond train

- Not Redders fault tonight.

- We rely too much on Mitch. If he is off we seem to be.

- Our visa players are not that good. They make the difference in this league. Borda - meh. Bruno - well he may as well pack his bags now

- we were the better team but they missed a sitter and should have a penalty in the second half

- Crowd is a massive disappointment. Maybe they were all at Slipknot. How do we have 18k members and only 66% turn up on a Saturday evening. We have 7k more members than the Smurfs yet they got 3k more for the same game. Wonder if the club can tell who is not showing up. I'd love the know the reasons. Always some can't make it but a third... that's really, really bad..

i wish i went to slipknot instead

 

 

Tactical awareness and discipline is missing.

No doubt about it.

 

Watched from 416, directly above RBB. No organisation. 2 Wanderers players competing for the same loose ball, only for it to fall to a CCM player... Poor use of available space as the match went on.

Popa's current tactics remind me of Brendan Rogers when he was at Liverpool. Rogers had no ability to read the game, & consequently had no tactical awareness. He never changed formation to adapt to the game & made questionable, inappropriate substitutions at crucial stages of matches.

If we do not have the appropriate players for 4231 (which never changes, allowing opposing teams to see right through us & denying ourselves any advantage) then why not play 352 or 343? We may not have the required players for these formations, but we only need to score 1 more than the opposition for 3 points. FFS.

a 3-5-2 would have been more plausible in this game to get on the front foot to win the game but Popa does not like to play a 2nd striker... he is too stubborn and believes his system still works regardless.

 

Arnie knows what game plan Popa has and thats why he has the wood on us for the last 3 seasons... teams are able to easily figure us out very easily as the game goes on. If you remember in S3 in the first derby, we were up 2-0, Arnie changes his tactics and the Smurfs were able to pull one back and they go on to win the game.

 

If we are down 2-0, Popa will use the same substitution, the same tactics and nothing changes.

When Melling came on it looked like in attack he was trying Barcelona style to split the centre backs and let the left and right fullbacks both get further forward creating a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 in attack instead of only one of Clisby or Neville going forward in attack . But unfortunately unlike Barca Clisby and Neville can struggle with the decision to stay or go forward .

Saying that Popovic always makes the same substitutions is not really unusual as all coaches mostly make the same substitutions .Strikers come on for strikers midfielders for midfielders etc . Taking off a defender and putting on striker is what some people want but you rightfully only see that in the under 12's on a Saturday .

Bulut has been playing badly so he was dropped

Martinez has been good off the bench so he started .

You can't coach a player not to do a **** back pass or miss multiple shots at goals and lol to those that think we don't practice shooting at training and only do fitness work !

for me this was a lot less painful than against newcastle but this should have been 6 points in the bag, **** it we didnt deserve to beat Adelaide but we deserved to win against both newcastle and ccm

also with the kayne west song they need to bring back the vocals it had a lot less energy without them it doesnt work without the vocals

pre game was actually good despite the lawn bar being ****

we are not going to win our next 4 matches, mitch was garbage tonight and we didnt really have anyone who could come off the bench to score goals

FYI Dimas was boss & Baccus had a good game! Dimas my MOTM

It is gutting not being able to be clinical in front of goal that has hurt us as we created enough chances for 10 goals but I'm not that dispondent for the season ahead.

It was great football to watch but had it been 2-0 or 3-0 at half time it would have been a very different story. The issue with not putting the game to bed is that we keep on attacking leaving ourselves exposed at the back & the other team feel like they are in the game late into the game.

Once we get a comfortable lead it is about game management. What do I mean? We can control the game a bit better. Slow down the pace of the game & just look a bit more comfortable. Right now I felt at 1-0 we were desperate to score & even at 2-0 last week we just didn't feel comfortable. I feel this is because we are lacking confidence at the back & the new team is taking time to gel.

Frustrating yes but hopefully the boys are doing some shooting practice this week

I have to agree with Mack and others who argue that Redmayne should have gone out to try and claim the poor backpass with his hands.

His initial reading of it must have been that it would be a 50/50 and a keeper, contesting such a ball within his own area cannot afford to opt to go with his feet, particularly when he is more central.

From memory this incident originated from an unnecessary pass back from our left in the Mariner's half of the field. Once again, we put ourselves under pressure from a situation where we are attacking and in control.

That said, there were some good passages of play, though some players were off their game, particularly Mitch. Apart from his two misses, there was one moment when he burst down the left and saw Santa just beyond the line of the penalty spot - but played, what for him should have been his usual inch-perfect cross low and in the gap between keeper and Santa, back into the defenders.

With better finishing and a bit of luck (Jumpei hitting crossbar) we may have been well ahead by halftime, though we were lucky not to concede a couple in that second half.

So people demanding earlier than 7 50, what is the perfect option? Is 7 30 okay or still too late for the kiddies? What if we move it to 6 40? Oh wait thats dinnertime, ruins the reservations. What about 5 30? Oh sun might be in our eyes. Are we ******* serious about complaining about a Saturday night scheduling? Have a listen to yourselves.

well said nmh. excuses everywhere. i reckon we have about 8K that will show up regardless (or find a home for their tickets if they have something on) and then we have about 30K bandwagoners.

friday 7:30 - too hard to get there after work

saturday 5:00 - too hot and the cricket is on

saturday 7:45 - too late - think of the children!

sunday 5:00 - too hot and i'm hungover

sunday 7:00 - too late - think of the children!

 

 

Tactical awareness and discipline is missing.

No doubt about it.

 

Watched from 416, directly above RBB. No organisation. 2 Wanderers players competing for the same loose ball, only for it to fall to a CCM player... Poor use of available space as the match went on.

Popa's current tactics remind me of Brendan Rogers when he was at Liverpool. Rogers had no ability to read the game, & consequently had no tactical awareness. He never changed formation to adapt to the game & made questionable, inappropriate substitutions at crucial stages of matches.

If we do not have the appropriate players for 4231 (which never changes, allowing opposing teams to see right through us & denying ourselves any advantage) then why not play 352 or 343? We may not have the required players for these formations, but we only need to score 1 more than the opposition for 3 points. FFS.

a 3-5-2 would have been more plausible in this game to get on the front foot to win the game but Popa does not like to play a 2nd striker... he is too stubborn and believes his system still works regardless.

 

Arnie knows what game plan Popa has and thats why he has the wood on us for the last 3 seasons... teams are able to easily figure us out very easily as the game goes on. If you remember in S3 in the first derby, we were up 2-0, Arnie changes his tactics and the Smurfs were able to pull one back and they go on to win the game.

 

If we are down 2-0, Popa will use the same substitution, the same tactics and nothing changes.

Or in the words of Mike Bassett ' Ladies and Gentlemen, England will be playing 4-4 ******* 2' lol

Stop with the ******* paper planes! I thought that would have been left at parra. Those people can **** right off, they pay no attention to the game or contribute to the atmosphere.

The race to the bottom of the table is on it's way.

I said recently that, on paper, only Jets and CCM have worse starting 11s than us. Not only did we draw against them at home, they both realised that we are crap and went for us. The decline in the second half is alarming and we were lucky to not lose in the last 10 mins.

Just how bad are Cornflakes and Borda in comparison with Spira and Alberto? Castro and Keogh are likely to pick our defence apart next week.

Andreu is missing left right and centre.

Martinez, Jumpei, Bulut will score goals in people's imagination only while Bobo, Holosko, Brosque and Ninkovic win the games for the Smurfs.

Redmayne is oozing the opposite of confidence.

We will need a gk, a cb, a midfielder and a strong cf if we want to be competitive.

I think the situation with members not turning up is something that needs to be fixed ASAP. The fact that only a few single tickets were available leading up to the game and to end up with such a low crowd is ridiculous.

And I also don't buy this "too late for the kids" crap. On a Sunday I understand but on a Saturday night!!!!! 

 

 

 

 

Why 7.50pm start? A lot of supporters have little ones (kids).10pm finish is tough if you have to get them home and into bed.I bet you'll find the earlier games are better attended.

*Yawn* Just another crap excuse. 7 30 really going to change things? Just call us Goldilocks FC. Time for people to harden up and actually support our team. 12k on a Saturday night? ******* pathetic.

This is what I love about our Club and our Supporters - We get the biggest crowd of the 3 games played so far this weekend, and we're still not satisfied.

 

Seriously though, the Club needs to do a better job explaining to members how to pass on their tickets.

Especially after the stuff up with the round 1 Derby ticketing.

It's not going to happen.

 

People just are not going to give back or pass on tickets. The amount who will do it will be minimal.

This people won't do it unless they get a actual money back

I am not sure what everyone is expecting. This is still one of our better starts to the season. We are notoriously slow starters. I think it's partially due to blowing the team up after every season which just does my head in. I know there are reasons for it but out of all the A-league teams, we are easily the worst offenders. How I would kill to have players like Andreu and Alberto back in this side. They were little gems who you would do everything to keep them. I would like to think the club tried without penny pinching, not sure on that one. None of us are involved in contract negotiations so how would we know. Just as much as we could have won last night, we easily could have lost also, Connor Pains miss, Clisby with a clear hand ball in the box. Not giving up on the season just yet but it is only exacerbated by our ACL commitments.

I was also annoyed by our poor crowd showing ffs. How many of our members are squatting on tickets just to go to big games. At least when members in our group can't make it they all make an effort in getting tickets to a good home. It was a perfect night for football and just over 12k turned up. Is this part of our DNA now, it's a sad state of affairs.

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The race to the bottom of the table is on it's way.

 

I said recently that, on paper, only Jets and CCM have worse starting 11s than us. Not only did we draw against them at home, they both realised that we are crap and went for us. The decline in the second half is alarming and we were lucky to not lose in the last 10 mins.

Just how bad are Cornflakes and Borda in comparison with Spira and Alberto? Castro and Keogh are likely to pick our defence apart next week.

Andreu is missing left right and centre.

Martinez, Jumpei, Bulut will score goals in people's imagination only while Bobo, Holosko, Brosque and Ninkovic win the games for the Smurfs.

Redmayne is oozing the opposite of confidence.

 

We will need a gk, a cb, a midfielder and a strong cf if we want to be competitive.

Post of the season! I believe we are a 6th to 10th place side. There are much better balanced squads across the league compared to our one this season. One thing we are consistent at is dropping off in games.... nothing new here and has been happening since season 2.

The mariners were punching holes in us the same way the jets were during that second half. We **** around too much at the back and always try to play these tricky flicks around the 18 yard box.

During the warmup, i was watching the mariners taking shots at their keeper and they were hooking them wide and skying them into the RBB.... It is going to be a long season this year but what did we expect. I hate comparing but look at east sydney's defensive recruits compared to ours.... the clean sheets say it all really. The only time we looked decent was on a counter attack.