Dual Errors Hand Roar Three Points

Round 17 comparison (from Ultimate ALeague)

Season 14/15

W 3 D 5 L 9 GF 18 GA 24

Season 16/17

W 3 D 9 L 5 GF 20 GA 26

14-15

R17 - 3W 5D 9L -6GD 14P

R27 - 4W 6D 17L -15GD 18P  

16-17

R17 - 3W 9D 5L -6GD 18P

Same wins, 4 more draws, 4 less losses.

And we had ACL that year which meant massive amounts of travelling. Still we have beaten adelaide, the mariners and the jets (minus their 3 best players ) this season. So mustn't grumble.

For me this is worse than that year when we battled for the spoon. We were 2nd last year and could have built on it but went for the cut price option.

Really impressed with Baccus tonight had his best game yet great defensive work rate and played some great balls forward with a near 100% accuracy .

He has got good pace and looks to play quick passes looking forward to seeing him progress further .

We got what we deserved tonight. It baffles me no end how many times players give away stupid yellow cards in the A-league. Do players know how to jockey, Neville's opponent was going no where pinned near the sideline.

I know we were a man down but how does Holman get acres of space in front of him with no one closing down. Vedran should have caught it but that's the way it goes.

People need to be held to account for this......enough is enough.

BTW Dimas laughing and a joking seconds after fulltime? F***. Right. Off

at least we are not liverpool i guess

People need to be held to account for this......enough is enough.

 

BTW Dimas laughing and a joking seconds after fulltime? F***. Right. Off

that should hit every player hard the fact that he was laughing and joking seconds after is not great though that has been Dimas all season

People need to be held to account for this......enough is enough.

 

BTW Dimas laughing and a joking seconds after fulltime? F***. Right. Off

Yeah I noticed that too.

We had a conversation with our hosts here in Brisbane, a Roar fan. He voiced his surprise how much we were forced to defend when the Roar turned up the volume in the second half, how little came from us.

We were musing how many of our senior players demonstrate that they are playing for Wanderers. We thought of Santa, Nichols, maybe Cornflakes. Not enough.

It looks like with all these squad changes we lost our identity.

The goals conceded where the typical S5 produce. If you don't have goal scorers, how are you meant to win a game if the defence keeps handing out gifts?

But really, the Roar should have finished us off before the red card.

Another typically frustrating performance. There are times when we play better football than we've ever played, and then times when we do something stupid. Our biggest problem now is that we're playing catch up, so we're increasingly nervous during the end of games because there is so much at stake.

Can't agree with Nico not starting. We only have 10 games left. I get that if he comes on later the defence is tired etc, but there are too many variables. For example today, Neville gets sent off which means that Nico only had about 10 mins with 11 v 11. That's a waste of the best player in the league.

I still think that with a good striker there's a good a-league squad there, without the need to do a major overhaul. Despite the results, they've shown promise this year. Before the game yesterday I watched our first goal against Adelaide in Round 2. That is one of the best goals we've ever scored...the potential has always been there.

Not really fussed about Dimas being up till 1am, but he has been poor this season. Gives away the ball too much, which with our style of play is suicide. It's frustrating because teams are doing **** all against us and still getting chances because we give the ball to them.

In days of yore a famous Coach called Billy Shakespeare could see the writing on the wall and said to his captain Prospero....

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

Jumpei really should have scored when Scott gave him a great chance however it was good defending

Nice post lloydy.

I only have two things to add.

Clisby has been good yes, but he's been at fault for a few goals. He has been overpowered when not using his body well for headers at least twice, and he's been caught out of position a few times, one or two of which I think led to goals. And not out of position as in marauding upfield, but just taking up bad spots and letting players get in.

The other thing is that I'm pretty sure Popa went on record saying that he didn't want all those players to leave this season, and that Bridge was one he would have liked to keep. I think Bridge and NTS wanted big paydays.

Anyway, it's crazy that people can turn around and lose their **** about Popa or the club because we lost in injury time to a team that is one of the toughest to beat at home, and both goals were errors.

Yes Fans were bloody awesome !

Popa saying we deserved something out of the game, "a point if not 3" is somewhat delusional. Yes we hit the bar but they looked more dangerous than us and Mclaren missed a sitter. They seemed to have more threat, more pace coming forward.

We never had more than 2 visa players on the pitch at anytime. We are a team of squaddies and the table doesn't lie.

Yes Fans were bloody awesome !

Welcome to the forums David!

Nice post lloydy.

 

I only have two things to add.

 

Clisby has been good yes, but he's been at fault for a few goals. He has been overpowered when not using his body well for headers at least twice, and he's been caught out of position a few times, one or two of which I think led to goals. And not out of position as in marauding upfield, but just taking up bad spots and letting players get in.

 

The other thing is that I'm pretty sure Popa went on record saying that he didn't want all those players to leave this season, and that Bridge was one he would have liked to keep. I think Bridge and NTS wanted big paydays.

 

Anyway, it's crazy that people can turn around and lose their **** about Popa or the club because we lost in injury time to a team that is one of the toughest to beat at home, and both goals were errors.

yeah point taken on clisby - when you think back he has been responsible for a few directly and he was part of the 'run back to the 6 yard box but not mark anyone' defending that we have been guilty of - especially early on in the season.

on popa - it depends if you take the micro or the macro view. on this game - he had us set up well and the game plan was pretty effective, yes nico benched was a surprise but jumpei scored so I guess it worked to a certain degree and then individual errors cost us but if you take the broader view the buck has to stop with popa for borda, bruno, jumpei, no9 debacle, lack of quality wide players, goalkeeping shambles etc etc

also the away support was immense. loud and clear throughout the coverage and even seemed to outnumber the den who are an absolute embarrassment. if there was a scoreboard for support that was 10-0.

 

 

Nice post lloydy.

 

I only have two things to add.

 

Clisby has been good yes, but he's been at fault for a few goals. He has been overpowered when not using his body well for headers at least twice, and he's been caught out of position a few times, one or two of which I think led to goals. And not out of position as in marauding upfield, but just taking up bad spots and letting players get in.

 

The other thing is that I'm pretty sure Popa went on record saying that he didn't want all those players to leave this season, and that Bridge was one he would have liked to keep. I think Bridge and NTS wanted big paydays.

 

Anyway, it's crazy that people can turn around and lose their **** about Popa or the club because we lost in injury time to a team that is one of the toughest to beat at home, and both goals were errors.

the den who are an absolute embarrassment. if there was a scoreboard for support that was 10-0.

But but but they did the poznan...

Popa saying we deserved something out of the game, "a point if not 3" is somewhat delusional. Yes we hit the bar but they looked more dangerous than us and Mclaren missed a sitter. They seemed to have more threat, more pace coming forward.

We never had more than 2 visa players on the pitch at anytime. We are a team of squaddies and the table doesn't lie.

We have never been a dominant team who others fear. They have probably just respected our competitiveness. That's where we are still at right now. So Popa can always say "we should have got something out of the game", and he's not necessarily wrong.

Lloydy,

Add Jamo, Alberto, Andreu and Castelen to the list of leaders who left.

We are just a shadow.

on popa - it depends if you take the micro or the macro view. on this game - he had us set up well and the game plan was pretty effective, yes nico benched was a surprise but jumpei scored so I guess it worked to a certain degree and then individual errors cost us but if you take the broader view the buck has to stop with popa for borda, bruno, jumpei, no9 debacle, lack of quality wide players, goalkeeping shambles etc etc

Yeah for sure. I guess I was just saying that we're not much different from last week. It's like Steve Waugh used to say - you're not as good as people say you are when you win, and you're not as bad as people say you are when you lose.

I think the leadership knows they have screwed up, and they'll look to fix it.

Lloydy,

 

Add Jamo, Alberto, Andreu and Castelen to the list of leaders who left.

 

We are just a shadow.

Without really being able to judge this fairly as it's hard for us to see all the qualities needed of a leader, I don't think Andreu or Castelen were leaders. Good players, but I didn't see them showing a whole lot of leadership.

At the start of the year we were congratulating Dimas on the captaincy and saw him as a leader. It's clear that we need better ones/more.

People need to be held to account for this......enough is enough.

 

BTW Dimas laughing and a joking seconds after fulltime? F***. Right. Off

 Dimas laughing and a joking seconds after fulltime? F***. Right. Off

...........and then janjetovic can't catch an absolutely routine shot from distance under no pressure with clear sight of the ball. Its under 12's stuff and its been happening all season. wonder what he will post on social media about that one?...............

Agree with most of what you said Lloydy, but I don't know about that janjetovic goal. It was hit with some force, he got his hands to it, and it kept travelling towards the goal. I don't know, not an expert on keepers by any means. It looked like just one of those unfortunate moments. 

As to the match, not sure what to make of it really, other than we seem to be stuck in groundhog day. The point about groundhog day is that if you keep making the same choices, you will get the same results. It takes a change of mentality to make different choices. I apply this to the club at large. From our approach to squad development, (both our scouting process and our working of the salary cap), Popa's on the field selection (I don't understand why Nico wasn't started - you play your best team from the start, if you don't you'll be chasing the game and running out of time for good player to make an impact on the field), to the choices the players make on the field, on the ball. So many passes to nowhere. Either its possession where we lose the damn ball after ten passes, or we in a good position, and there's a lack of vision/lack of focus and the pass goes astray, or straight to the opposition. That kind of thing changes games. It loses games. 

I don't know anymore, we're floundering, with intermittent, random moments of great play. But the bad is outweighing the good, hence our position on the table.

Maybe feel better about it later. But from the blow of the whistle last night the usual malady (whatever that is, IDK) was there. The team from last week that won a crucial 3 points was missing once again. Why?

14-15

R17 - 3W 5D 9L -6GD 14P

R27 - 4W 6D 17L -15GD 18P  

 

16-17

R17 - 3W 9D 5L -6GD 18P

 

Same wins, 4 more draws, 4 less losses.

So no better at winning, but better at not losing. I stand by what I said then. **** season, and frustrating as hell, but season 3 felt like we were being marched to the gallows each week.

 

 

Nice post lloydy.

 

I only have two things to add.

 

Clisby has been good yes, but he's been at fault for a few goals. He has been overpowered when not using his body well for headers at least twice, and he's been caught out of position a few times, one or two of which I think led to goals. And not out of position as in marauding upfield, but just taking up bad spots and letting players get in.

 

The other thing is that I'm pretty sure Popa went on record saying that he didn't want all those players to leave this season, and that Bridge was one he would have liked to keep. I think Bridge and NTS wanted big paydays.

 

Anyway, it's crazy that people can turn around and lose their **** about Popa or the club because we lost in injury time to a team that is one of the toughest to beat at home, and both goals were errors.

the den who are an absolute embarrassment. if there was a scoreboard for support that was 10-0.

But but but they did the poznan...

 

Twice !!

In terms of Janjetovic it seemed to be that he was too far off his line for whatever reason. But after 3.5 games and a mistake finally happens, he was always going to cop it from those who want Redmayne. Reality is Redmayne makes basic errors every game these days and struggles to catch basic crosses or communicate with his defenders. We are still better off in the long run.

I don't think we should tinker too much next season. Just add a few better marquees to replace the ones who haven't performed. This squad will play better together next season once they start knowing each other's games even more.

Well we certainly witnessed Kalacs influence in that 2nd goal........

In terms of Janjetovic it seemed to be that he was too far off his line for whatever reason. But after 3.5 games and a mistake finally happens, he was always going to cop it from those who want Redmayne. Reality is Redmayne makes basic errors every game these days and struggles to catch basic crosses or communicate with his defenders. We are still better off in the long run.

I don't think we should tinker too much next season. Just add a few better marquees to replace the ones who haven't performed. This squad will play better together next season once they start knowing each other's games even more.

And that's where we have to show solidarity in building upon positive foundations. Look at Sydney last year, they were overall poor but built upon the positives. Now look at them.

Another clean out and I'm going to blow my ******* brains out.