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    Duke Wins Derby


    mack

    The first Sydney Derby at the Western Sydney Stadium has been won 1-0 by the home side as the Captain Mitch Duke fired in a magnificent flying header early in the first half then saw his side held on stoically through the remainder of the game to take the three points.

    As the Sydney Derby took on a 1v2 flavour for the first time the result was doubly important as it meant the Wanderers will now finish the round either 2 or 3 points clear of 2nd place. With an atmosphere to rival anywhere in Europe, Sydney FC had the better of the opening stages, Rhyan Grant fired in a cross to Adam Le Fondre that he glanced down to force a good save low by Daniel Lopar.

    In the 18th minute Sydney FC handed a right flank overload to the Wanderers and they were punished for it. Paulo Retre tried a ridiculous backheel attempting to get around Daniel Georgevski but the in-form fullback cut it off and after a Yeboah touch, he took the ball back and sent in a perfect cross into the box, Mitch Duke making a wonderful run toward the penalty spot, launching himself at the ball, making perfect contact to send the ball past Andrew Redmayne before he could get his hands up to block.

    The Sydney FC players reacted with their usual lack of grace, as Ryan McGowan and Grant got in a shoving match with Wanderers midfielder Nick Sullivan. Players from both sides streamed toward the confrontation, referee Alireza Faghani along with Duke helped to seperate the sides before Ryan McGowan and Sullivan were booked for the push & shove.

    On the half hour Daniel Lopar made another great save, this time at his near post when Milos Ninkovic tried a surprise toepoke shot. Shortly after Kosta Barbarouses butchered what looked to be a sure goal, as Ninkovic put him through on goal, only for the New Zealand international to fire wide. 

    Early in the second half Sydney FC thought they had the equaliser. From a corner in the 51st minute, Barbarouses with his back to goal managed to knock the ball down into the bottom corner post, the rebound saw the ball skitter across the goal-line without it being clear that the whole of the ball had crossed as per the laws of the game, and Lopar gratefully clutched it in his arms. The VAR declined to overturn the decision, with the linesman having the best angle within the entire ground.

    Sydney FC continued their petulant behaviour in the 54th minute, after a routine coming together between Pirmin Schwegler & Grant, the Sydney FC player decided to shove Schwegler to the turf in front of the Sydney FC technical area, their coach Steve Corica instigating another melee by deciding to get in the face of Schwegler. It did little to trouble the Wanderer as he smiled and walked away, Faghani who officiated the game at a level of high quality rarely seen in this country, again dished out a set of cards, one to each team.

    As time began to run out, Sydney FC started throwing everyone forward and in the 74th minute they once again thought they were going to score an equaliser. Ninkovic played Barbarouses in on goal again, a 1 on 1 with Daniel Lopar loomed and the Swiss stopper shut down the shooting angles then blocked the shot with his left foot. It was to be the last major action for the visitors, and with a gigantic roar of the 28,000 strong home crowd, the Wanderers took out the derby 1-0, going clear at the top of the table and picking up three wins from their first three games, for the first time in the club's history.

    The Wanderers face the Brisbane Roar in Round 4, on Saturday the 2nd of November, at the Western Sydney Stadium kick-off at 5:00pm.

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    21 minutes ago, matty said:

    Looking at the replays over and over, I think the Baccus VAR was a handball. I think we got lucky. I also think it's about time we got a call in a derby. I also think - **** off east sydney

    Based on what has come before, I think the refs at least here have decided that if the players hand/arm is pointing down that much, by the players side it will have to be obviously deliberate to be given. But if the hand is above shoulder height, maybe even chest height, you're gone. Might be time for the kits to have a little handloop on the sides for players to hold onto so they don't accidentally move their arms in the way of the ball.

    I figure it wouldn't have been overturned by VAR had it been given though.

    The other thoughts I had was maybe there was a push in the back on Baccus and that's why they didn't give it or it had hit him in the chest first, and the ways the new law is written it makes a ball hitting the rest of the body then the arm, "usually not an infringement". Either of those two things would have been enough to cancel out the handball.

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    4 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said:

    Well said Nova we didn’t have the greatest game but finally we have a team who knows how to work hard our grind it out 

    If you're replying to me, I'm not Nova hehe

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    His hand is ball his side, you can’t start penalising players for that 

    esfc didn’t deserve the rub of the green they have it far too long - shows the influence that have lost without brosque officiating that games! 

    Edited by GunnerWanderer

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    1 minute ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

    Lots of people claiming the Cove were louder than RBB on the TV, can anyone confirm.  I was kind of close to the cove end, but I could still hear the RBB pretty loudly.

    I was centre line and they were only louder a couple of times 

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    1 minute ago, mack said:

    Based on what has come before, I think the refs at least here have decided that if the players hand/arm is pointing down that much, by the players side it will have to be obviously deliberate to be given.

    I figure it wouldn't have been overturned by VAR had it been given though.

    The other thoughts I had was maybe there was a push in the back on Baccus and that's why they didn't give it or it had hit him in the chest first, and the ways the new law is written it makes a ball hitting the rest of the body then the arm, "usually not an infringement". Either of those two things would have been enough to cancel out the handball.

    Yep....that was down our end and the ball went from chest to arm which was basically by his side.......still, so good to see the VAR play nice for us for a change. :D The Iranian ref is a cracker. Great job...hope we get for a lot of games.

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    2 minutes ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

    Lots of people claiming the Cove were louder than RBB on the TV, can anyone confirm.  I was kind of close to the cove end, but I could still hear the RBB pretty loudly.

    lol who are these people, only time I heard the Cove was with around 15mins to go.

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    29 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    lol who are these people, only time I heard the Cove was with around 15mins to go.

    Last ten I heard them 3 or 4 times 

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    51 minutes ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

    Lots of people claiming the Cove were louder than RBB on the TV, can anyone confirm.  I was kind of close to the cove end, but I could still hear the RBB pretty loudly.

    Fox always put mics near the away fans to try even out the atmosphere.

    The Cove are all piss and wind no one will ever rate their efforts.

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    Amazing feeling this win. VAR decsisions meh we can go back down the years and point out all the decisions against us. Indeed i think the real reason we won was kosta Barbarouses. 3 chances especially the one in the first half it was harder not to score. If it was Brosque I feel would have been a different story.

    Great effort from our boys to win the match. Special mention to Schwegler and Duke stopped Grants effectiveness in 2nd half

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    3 hours ago, matty said:

    Looking at the replays over and over, I think the Baccus VAR was a handball. I think we got lucky. I also think it's about time we got a call in a derby. I also think - **** off east sydney

    VAR probably didn't rule on it, as BB was clearly pushed in the back prior to the ball striking his chest then arm, which appeared to be in a normal position.

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    A number of times over the last few years, when this issue of whether a ball has crossed the goal line and a goal possibly scored has arisen, I have contacted Fox Sports and pleaded with them to conduct a simple studio experiment - which you dear Forum member should perform right now…

    [Remember that the whole of the ball must have crossed the whole of the line…]

    Items needed: A football, a ruler and some commonsense.

    Place the ruler on the ground - the ruler represents the line.

    Place the ball in a position where you can see ‘grass’ between the ball and the line. This is easily seen from the line side of the ball, which is generally equivalent to the camera angle. From this angle you may seem sure that the ball has fully crossed the line.

    However, if you now look down or directly over the line there are a number of ball positions where parts of the ball in the air have not fully crossed over the line.

    Robbie Slater decided to prove at the end of the telecast that he knew better than VAR and that it was really a goal. He took a ball to the goal line and conducted the experiment - and was surprised to admit that you could see grass but that the ball was not across the line!

    So, he was wrong on his call and he is also wrong on his repeated (and stupid) claim that you have to raise your arms going up for a header. You do not have to. I played for 22 years and invariably won headers in defence and attack, but never raised my arms to endanger another player. I was well aware of the rules.

    Taurus is right about the sound, which is easier heard on TV thanks to broadcast microphones. Additionally, I think Schwegler was fortunate to not be carded earlier than he was, but the ref (and VAR) got every other decision right.

    Anyhow, it was a fantastic Derby and occasion, in which we were well outplayed, but with luck and a great keeper in Lopar, we survived to triumph. Bring on Brisbane!

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    2 hours ago, Taurus said:

    I'm seated with a group of 12 FM's in the 8th/9th row of the upper tier, in line with the penalty box at the southern end.

    Whilst it's a superb viewing stadium the acoustics leave a lot to be desired.

    It was noticeable at the CCM game with a crowd of 'only' 17k & a less than full RBB, that the noise being created by the active fans didn't reverberate like it did at Wanderland 1.0. 

    Tonight with a full house & a heaving RBB, we still heard very little of the noise being created by the RBB, other than the WDWSF call & responce, which we weren't even aware was happening, until we heard some muffled responces from those seated closer to half way.

    The cove on the other hand were loudish & clearly audible on the few occasions that they decided to make some noise. 

    My gut feeling is that without a solid roof structure, the noise only travels to approx half way, before it dissipates into the ether.  

     

    And there you have exactly what I've observed, and tried to say, a dozen times - both at the old stadium, and at this one.

    That's where I sat at the Leeds game, and found the same thing, where people said the RBB was loud, but I barely heard them.  :(

    Past half way, you really just don't hear a lot of the RBB. You cannot participate even in clapping in unison. THAT was actually even a problem midway to the half way line at the other end of the pitch.

    Last night the RBB was MASSIVE! Beyond Brilliant! So, for what they were pumping out last night not to have travelled much past the half way line before it "dissipated into the either" says it all.

    And that's why, if anyone, like me, dreams of a stadium wide anything, especially a walkout song (one that everyone can participate in past half way, and especially at the Southern end) it will have to go through the PA system. 

    It's as simple as that.

    Maybe people at that end don't care - but if they're to be included even once or twice in a game - say at walkout, and joining in the Woo Hoos for the goal celebration, that's the only way it will happen.

     

     

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    3 hours ago, Taurus said:

    It was noticeable at the CCM game with a crowd of 'only' 17k & a less than full RBB, that the noise being created by the active fans didn't reverberate like it did at Wanderland 1.0. 

    PS Not sure where you were at the old stadium, Taurus, but in my last season down the Southern end, a bit further to the South than you were last night, there were definitely no sounds reverberating from the RBB. All you could hear was the sound of people chatting.

    That's what I whinged about over and over again. :(

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    Re our goal celebration music :yahoo:- this is what's thundered over the PA system - at a volume I actually love (sorry Generator, and others sensitive to noise). However - maybe it's too loud to be distinguishable.

    To me, it's the absolutely perfect goal celebration, and I look forward to hearing 28,000  Woo Hoos, in unison - at some time in the future! :yahoo:Just like in our first half dozen games we were able to do it to what the Victory use, before it was, rightly, abandoned.

     

    In case you don't know it...here it is to practice with- from 15 secs - 30 secs!!  :lol::lol:

    :yahoo: 

     

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    6 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    lol who are these people, only time I heard the Cove was with around 15mins to go.

    Lol - you sit above the RBB! No wonder you didn't hear them!  :lol:

    They were pretty quiet all night  - we know why.

    But did fire up very loudly in a couple of bursts, now and then.

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    8 minutes ago, wendybr said:

    Lol - you sit above the RBB! No wonder you didn't hear them!  :lol:

    They were pretty quiet all night  - we know why.

    But did fire up very loudly in a couple of bursts, now and then.

    West  - eating prawn sandwiches and drinking prosecco..

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    6 hours ago, THEWANDERERSPOST said:

    Lots of people claiming the Cove were louder than RBB on the TV, can anyone confirm.  I was kind of close to the cove end, but I could still hear the RBB pretty loudly.

    I think the location of the Cove on the 2nd Tier may have amplified their chanting. I think that was the main reason for them sounding so loud as they had the room directly over them.

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