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    The Western Sydney Wanderers travelled to Perth to take on the Glory in a late Sunday fixture with massive implications for the top 6 race, and left after being annihilated 5-1 with Andy Keogh making his birthday one to remember by scoring four goals.

    The Wanderers came in knowing that a win or draw would see them replace Brisbane Roar in 6th place while for Perth they needed all three points to have any hope of making the finals. The Glory named their fearsome front four of Diego Castro, Chris Ikonomidis, Bruno Fornaroli and Andy Keogh. The Wanderers introduced new signing Steven Ugarkovic into the starting 11 for the first time.

    The match started with a bit of eccentricity, former Wanderers goalkeeper Liam Reddy taking a back-pass and ending up a bit of a muddle with James Troisi before hitting it out for a throw-in. Both teams used their now familiar three at the back formations. 

    Andy Keogh hadn't scored for Perth all season in his 18 games, and on his birthday he broke his goal drought in the 5th minute. Tate Russell was poorly positioned and couldn't stop Castro from releasing Kosuke Ota down the right flank, his cross was pinpoint, finding Keogh 6 yards out from goal, despite both central defenders in close proximity neither of them could impact on the ball or his finish, a powerful glancing header into the side netting. 

    Keogh had a glorious chance to pick up a double, he rose above Ziggy Gordon at the far post but couldn't keep the header on target. Russell won a corner in the 14th minute, his direct long run from half-way beat Ota, he took on the shot and forced a save out of Reddy. After a series of midfield pinball, the Wanderers found themselves on the attack, Troisi just unable to beat Reddy to a squirming ball in the penalty area but Duke ran onto the rebound and blasted it into Reddy's stomach from point blank range, leaving the keeper down for a short period of time.

    Keogh had his double with an extraordinary goal. Fornaroli chested down the ball and passed off to Keogh, it bounced perfectly for an audacious volley from 38 yards out, Daniel Margush was out of his goal protecting from a through ball that was never coming, and he had to retreat fast, running into his own goal his body shape was completely wrong, his attempt at a save was a comical one and both he and the ball finished nestled in the back of the net.

    Perth were totally dominant for the entire half, the Wanderers had no answer to Perth pushing Fornaroli back into the midfield setup nor did they have any creativity in the Perth half, missing simple passes, lacking cohesive combination play and even finding it hard for simple shots from distance.

    Bruce Kamau has been the Wanderers best player all season and he continued his good form, single-handedly dragging the visitors back into the contest with a 48th minute strike of real quality. Patrick Ziegler made a run into the Perth half, the defence backed away from the central defender but as he approached the penalty area he played the ball off to Kamau who was in a mile of open space. Fornaroli could have cut him down for a foul but wanted to avoid an obvious yellow card, and none of the Perth defensive line closed him down. Taking the opportunity he launched a venomous right footed shot that slammed in off the far post upright with Reddy not getting close to making a save.

    Graham Dorrans was very close to equalising, after Perth cleared away a corner it came back with interest as he combined with Duke in a one-two that gave Dorrans a clear shot at goal. With no-one closing him down from 18 yards out the shot flashed past the post with Reddy extremely concerned. Troisi followed up on the hour mark with a long bomb that Reddy doublehanded out for a corner. Fornaroli who has been a real pain in the hole between defence & midfield left the game with Joel Chianese coming on his in stead.

    Perth stopped the Wanderers momentum from the penalty spot. With a wide attack, Castro played in Chianese on the right wing, his attempt at a cross smashed into the hand of Ziegler, who had slid in for a block only to have the ball rebound from his hip onto his arm. For all the complaints about the VAR and handball changes, the players have had long enough to know they need to keep the top hand down when sliding, or to adjust their method of play. The line about "un-natural positions" sealed the deal and VAR would not overturn the call. Keogh converted the spot kick for his hat-trick, extending the lead back out to two with a perfect penalty that beat Margush going the right way.

    Keogh had his fourth in the 70th minute. Ikonomidis danced around two tackles, his cross deflected high up in to the air, looped to the back post, a yard out and Keogh couldn't miss. It was a simple goal that came from ball-watching and poor defending.

    Nick D'Agostino almost added a 5th at the start of stoppage time, faking a ball across to the right before cutting back in and shooting along the deck, having Margush beaten but not quite on target. Chianese did pick up the 5th however, in the 93rd minute Perth counter-attacked, Keogh finding Osama Malik, he played a superb defence splitting pass, Chianese ran on and toe poked it around the onrushing Margush to see the match finish 5-1.

    Western Sydney were never truly in the contest, the short period of hope following Kamau's goal was extinguished by the penalty and Perth ran rampant in the final half hour. With four games left in the Season the Wanderers are now almost certainly only playing for the 6th and final spot on the ladder, and this loss has added Perth to the list of teams now in the fight for it. Bernie Ibini summed up the mentality of the side when he was spotted having a laugh with Liam Reddy following the final whistle, after coming on to do absolutely nothing to improve the team on the pitch in his 18 minute cameo. The 5-4 loss to Melbourne Victory now has a competitor for the lowest point in the season thus far, with next weekend's Derby a possible killing blow for the season and perhaps the tenure of Carl Robinson.

    The Wanderers next game is against Sydney FC, at the Sydney Cricket Ground on Sunday May 23rd with kick-off at 4:05PM.


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    Totally pathetic performance against Perth.

    Time to tender your resignation CR.

    Seriously.

    You need to go. 

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    Previous 2 wins were simply an outlier. The derby we ground out a win cause the players dug deep despite being totally out possessed from start to finish and I think my team would’ve beaten WU last weekend they were that poor.

    Let’s be real here, we did and still play the exact same one dimensional, rudderless system while Robinson watches on cluelessly.

    If anything I’m annoyed we won those two games cause once the temporary sugar hit of optimism died down, all it did was distract from the problems at hand which need resolving ASAP. 

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    The only thing left for Robinson to do to confirm he has no idea...keep the back 3 and bring McGowan back.

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    12 minutes ago, WHACKO said:

    The only thing left for Robinson to do to confirm he has no idea...keep the back 3 and bring McGowan back.

    At least then all hope will be gone before we actually play.

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    Hand on heart not the other thing the score HHHmmmmm RRRRGGGGrrrrraaa did not reflect the difference in the teams.....

    Poachers FC, lack that, deep sitting, holding, play maker, mid directing players around them.... you don't have a decent 6.... God knows until Olly arrived this year neither have the Mariners... 

    Having said that you are in phase one of a massive rebuild ... meaning fiddle a bit here and fiddle a tad there ... take Tossier [sorry] with a clever 6 behind him he would be a different player...

    Keeper, a 4 and a 6... no offence to your current keeper, 4 & 6.... but thats were your falling down ... I still think you will make the finals...

    The Piss Ants surprised me today and they are my tip for the grand final ... not sure if they can win but do look nice...

    As for us... our subs are sub par mostly kids and way to inexperienced kids.... 

    Our secret weapons are Olly [our 6] and coach.. Staj is helping regrow the home end support and thats important.... Olly is directing every player around him and you lack an on field general ... Castro for Perth is another example... you have had great holding mids in the past .... 

    Just beat South Gosford FC in your next game...

     

     

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    You know everyone is upset or are loss for words when there's no comments posted on here or the post-game thread.

    Well, I guess I can say this on behalf of everyone on the forum and pretty much every WSW fan...utterly disappointing performance tonight. To be honest, I did have some high hopes going into this match for the squad. But, when you see the club's record against Glory in WA doesn't seem to be too crash hot (2 wins, 4 draws and now 7 losses) they seem to sink a little bit.

    If the squad was going to lose tonight, I didn't expected it to be by 2 goals or more. They destroyed them in Bankwest so I thought we would see a repeat in the reserve fixture...obviously not. 

    Here's a run down on where I think on what went wrong:

    - The first goal happened due to Natta being way too deep into field and causing way too much confusion to the back 3. The pass from Castro to Ota meant Russell had to run to defend him which caused Gordon off his line. It seem Keogh caught Ziegler napping a bit thus he managed to find a spot to get the first goal.

    - The second goal was blatantly obvious. Margush was caught napping. He was too far up 

    - The third goal...well...It's controversial? I don't know. Personally, Zeigler should of had his hand behind and just stick one foot out. I understand he was defending but I honestly feel there was no need to slide and defend the ball like what's shown above. Unfortunately, Ziegler will always be a controversial player for the Wanderers with his antics on the field and once again, it was witnessed here tonight.

    - Fourth goal, Natta was napping which allowed Ikonmidis to get the ball and then kick from Ikonmidis makes Russell and Gordon do some ball watching with NO ONE marking Keogh

    - The fifth goal had Aqulina not marking Chianese and Gordon trying to defend the ball. 

    Overall, the back 5 were absolutely dogs*it tonight, just completely s*it. The fact it took Robinson to pull his finger out and change the back 5 to a back 4 while the squad was 3 goals down was appalling. 

    What's also frustrating is Robinson only used 3 subs. However, I'm glad he didn't use McGowan to replace Natta and continuously use 5 at the back for the remainder of the game. 

    The positives coming out of this game was Kamau's goal. It was marvelous. I'm glad he is willing to take a shot at goal at any opportunity. The goal made Reddy stunned. 

    I hope next season Robinson actually plays with 4 at the back like a 4-2-3-1 formation but heck...we all know that won't happen. However, if a miracle happened where Robinson FINALLY decides to go ahead with that formation, you could have Kamau as your main striker. However, if MacDonald decides to extend his contract, he would be your striker and then Kamau would the winger alongside Ibini (pretty much the same formation used against Sydney FC in the previous Sydney Derby).

    Unfortunately, the hopes of this squad making the finals are slipping away now. If they lose the Sydney derby next week, expect NO ONE to be at Bankwest for the remainder of the season which is sad.

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    Just on the first goal I don’t think Ziegler is napping if you watch it he actually sees keough and seems to have it covered but his lack of foot speed undoes him. 
    wasnt error just a man slower than his direct opponent 

    I think you covered everything else well 

    Like You said we just got fortunate we got WU in a run of fixture overload and the Smurfs are mentally incapable of beating us at moment 

    the season is far from over given the table but ultimately it’s nothing more than a first round exit 

    in a one off game I have zero confidence in us 

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    Big club my effin eye we are a bunch of Amateurs, lost for words , gobsmacked , gutted.

    We should donate our setup at Blacktown to a club who could use it better than us because year on year we get promises and year on year we get duded.

    The only positive in the game was the Bruce Kamau goal , positive for him as it may seal a job for him at Melbourne Victory  

    Enough is enough    

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    Look on the bright side, we were lucky we weren't playing Barcelona's women's team, would have been double figures.

     

    All McGowans fault anyone. 

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    Monday morning blues ehh.

    I hate Sunday nights. Its the propect of grinding out yet another week. Some might be fortunate enough to love the job they do and bounce out of bed on a Monday, for others (like me) it is a weekly slogg to earn enough to live in this over priced, over hyped city. I suspect many here like me are grinding out a living. End of the week I fall asleep in front of the TV because I am knackered, BUT at least I have the football.

    It was a late Sunday evening result i was fearing would happen and has done nothing to help my mood.

    What was it CR said after the derby about he gets the West Sydney work ethic? Rubbish, he has no idea at all.

    We have shipped 10 goals in the space of a month to MV and Glory, that's just ridiculous, any manager would be shown the door for that and not complain.

    Anyway, better get to work ehh because a week of drudgery awaits with no help from WSW.

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    Mathyou,

    Vert harsh on Natta for the first goal, he was marking Fornaroli very tightly as he did all game,  Fornaroli dropped deep he followed him, can"t see how he can be blamed.

    He's not perfect, still developing,  but still preferable to Ziegler in my opinion.

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    Duke had one of his worst games for us last night, not sure if mentally he may be struggling with his wife and kids overseas but he doesn't look himself the past few games.

    I think the score flattered Perth it wasn't a reflection of how the game was going. The Penalty absolutely killed us but it was too rash from Ziegler just needed to hold his ground and we had a couple of chances before that the Dorrans one was probably the big one.

    The biggest weakness however was the Back 3 yet again exposed in this game with Castro and Fonaroli having a field day, and they were strengthened by Ikonomidis (seriously forgot how good he was) pressuring up front. The first goal is on Russel you can't let them cross like that you need to defend crosses like shots on goal. Keogh had the game of his life and while I have seen a few comments on Margush BUT seriously I am not sure you could fault him that was a freak hit and he takes it first time it happened very quick and to have the awareness... All I can say is wow.

    Its a damaging result and a crazy stat we haven't won at HBF for 7 years. 

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    To me it looks like Duke is losing confidence in Robbo as are an increasing number of players. The body language suggests the effort is there but it also displays a hint of “wtf are we doing?” as the game rolls on. I think there’s a lot of frustrated blokes out there in red and black currently.

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    I wasn’t in the CR out camp until now. Our organisation defensively is shocking. That is down to the coach. Are we saying the Mariners have a much better squad than we do? I don’t think so yet I am sure they would not have lost 5-1 to Perth or 5-4 to Victory. They may have lost in Perth, absolutely, but not 5-1, maybe 2 or 3. They have a proper coach. One who knows how to work with what he has. It is an embarrassment the way we capitulate and if we scrape into the play-offs we will be bounced out immediately. I’m afraid CR can’t really coach, or even worse, learn from his mistakes. Let’s close this season and find a new coach.

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    57 minutes ago, papersun said:

    Mathyou,

    Vert harsh on Natta for the first goal, he was marking Fornaroli very tightly as he did all game,  Fornaroli dropped deep he followed him, can"t see how he can be blamed.

    He's not perfect, still developing,  but still preferable to Ziegler in my opinion.

    It might be a bit harsh. But, he is so far up the field in my opinion. (I originally had screen shots for all five goals but I removed them as the images were too large). I feel the likes of Dorrans or Ugarkovic should of been marking Fornaroli around that section of the field so that Natta was back to his original position. 

    Overall, it wasn't the best performance from Natta. Hence why he was substituted. But, as I said before, the back 5 was really bad. The fact it took Robinson to see the squad 3 goals down to change it to a back 4 was absurd. The other issue that needs to be addressed is Robinson went into this game with one defender as a substitute (McGowan). He should of had an extra defender on the bench (I'm aware Wilmering isn't 100% fit...bit what happened to Mourdoukoutas or why not give an opportunity to one of the NPL players?)

    Also, I will agree with you that I still prefer Natta over Ziegler. Ziegler is a very frustrating player to watch and I don't see him at the club next season. 

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    2 hours ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

    Duke had one of his worst games for us last night, not sure if mentally he may be struggling with his wife and kids overseas but he doesn't look himself the past few games.

    I feel like he is struggling due to Charlotte (his wife) and his kids are overseas and I think the departure of Cox might of made him feel a bit disappointed as well since they were good mates and they were sharing an apartment this season. 

    Also, I think he has been lacking a bit of motivation. Duke used to be willing to defend and intercept the ball while opponents had possession of the ball in their half of the field. I've barely seen him do that this season.

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    15 minutes ago, MathyouWSW said:

    I feel like he is struggling due to Charlotte (his wife) and his kids are overseas and I think the departure of Cox might of made him feel a bit disappointed as well since they were good mates and they were sharing an apartment this season. 

    Also, I think he has been lacking a bit of motivation. Duke used to be willing to defend and intercept the ball while opponents had possession of the ball in their half of the field. I've barely seen him do that this season.

    Duke looks like a guy with other things on his mind for sure. Family, another move elsewhere or just not happy with the formation we play...

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    I stopped watching after Keogh scored his hatrick but what pissed me off the most was Keogh's second goal!

    no one, absolutely **** no one picked him up in midfield, Dorrans and Ugarkovic both were jogging back and no one got near him. That allowed Keogh so much ******* time to lob one over Margush.

    And speaking of margush, who the **** told Margush to be off his line?

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    Just wonder if the second was pre planned, Margush has a tendency to wander too far out into the wilderness sometimes, look not saying it's not worked for him a good few times with some timely interceptions but can't help feeling some coaches may be targeting that aspect of his play. 

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    20 minutes ago, SBW said:

    And speaking of margush, who the **** told Margush to be off his line?

    Tbh all the keepers do it.

    Dorrans got one for us early in the season......forget who it was against.

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    17 minutes ago, sonar said:

    Tbh all the keepers do it.

    Dorrans got one for us early in the season......forget who it was against.

    Macarthur

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    4 hours ago, papersun said:

    Mathyou,

    Vert harsh on Natta for the first goal, he was marking Fornaroli very tightly as he did all game,  Fornaroli dropped deep he followed him, can"t see how he can be blamed.

    He's not perfect, still developing,  but still preferable to Ziegler in my opinion.

    Our best centre back is an 18 year old kid says it all 

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    Funny to look back at how we were holding onto that record of not conceding from open play for so long. We've now conceded 2+ goals in 11 out of 22 games this season... Oh and we've also officially got a worse defensive record that Newcastle who are dead bottom, so yeah theres that..

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    24 minutes ago, apvz said:

    Funny to look back at how we were holding onto that record of not conceding from open play for so long. We've now conceded 2+ goals in 11 out of 22 games this season... Oh and we've also officially got a worse defensive record that Newcastle who are dead bottom, so yeah theres that..

    We got off lightly in the 4-1 against City. They totally out played us and could have been 8. MV could easily have scored more than 5 also. We are fortunate we haven't been done by an 8-1 type scoreline really, we have that kind of result in us!

    An in formESFC prob does us 5-3 in last derby. They had the ball and chances to do so..

    Shambolic is what we are.

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    12 hours ago, hughsey said:

    To me it looks like Duke is losing confidence in Robbo as are an increasing number of players. The body language suggests the effort is there but it also displays a hint of “wtf are we doing?” as the game rolls on. I think there’s a lot of frustrated blokes out there in red and black currently.

    Duke did say post ESFC win that we played a formation we are comfortable with and/or more familiar with. Basically he believes 4231>352. Must be shitty to revert back to the crap and get pumped again.
     

    We switched to 4 atb after it was 4-1 I believe and baccus was preferred to muller as an attacking outlet

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    11 hours ago, WSWJACK said:

    Just wonder if the second was pre planned, Margush has a tendency to wander too far out into the wilderness sometimes, look not saying it's not worked for him a good few times with some timely interceptions but can't help feeling some coaches may be targeting that aspect of his play. 

    Keogh said post game that he knew Margush tended to do it, looked out for it, and struck when he saw him so far out.

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