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    A series of defensive lapses combined with awful finishing to see the Western Sydney Wanderers lose 3-1 to Brisbane Roar.

     

    The opening match of the season ended with the away side stealing the 3 points. Jamie McClaren, the new Brisbane #9, scored in the 9th minute, pouncing on a dreadful backpass from Hamill before chipping Andrew Redmayne to open the scoring.

     

    Mitch Nichols gave the 14,000 strong crowd something to cheer just minutes later, as he was played through on goal by Scott Jamieson, before closing in and finishing smartly from an acute angle to level the match at 1-1.

     

    Brisbane were back in front after 22 minutes, new signing Corona whipping a corner to the near post where it was met by Daniel Bowles with a powerful header that the Wanderers defender on the back post couldn't stop going over the line.

     

    Another failure of set piece defence had the Roar take a 3-1 lead into the break, another Corona corner whipped into the near post, the ball bounced against a pair of Roar players before falling neatly into the path of McClaren who had his double by firing home from point blank range. Despite huffing and puffing, Western Sydney weren't able to pull a goal back in the second half and continued their run of 4 opening round matches without a win.

     

    It could be said that the Wanderers had the better control of open play, but football isn't just about open play, two atrocious attempts at set piece defending and the Hamill backpass left the Wanderers with a mountain to climb and it was never going to be easy to get back to level pegging, and it proved such.

     

    The Wanderers need to get their full first team outfit on the park week after week or they will continue to struggle. The ongoing problems in both defensive and offensive set pieces still exist despite another pre-season to work on them, and once again a lack of accurate finishing cost the club any hope of taking points from this match. The one positive of the Thursday kick-off is that there is as much time as possible until the next match.


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    Lol

    Score one for the bad guys

    Main issues about the football, rbb needs to address it instead of being optimistic...

    Maybe you lot should stop trying to copy ultras from around the world.

    They have the option of supporting a team playing in the main city, regularly finishing top of the table, having a rich owner pumping money through the club keeping them at the top.

     

    Well this is Australia, and it's a salary capped league, you can't always finish on top, be ******* grateful for the highs this team has given you in the first 2 years.

     

    You are not entitled to ANYTHING, because most teams have the same expectations and realistically EVERY team can make a title run.

     

    Be realistic for ****s sake.

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    I would just like them to do what they have done in regards with dealing with the club and Parramatta LAC.

    IE. Sit down and try and work out their differences.

    I don't want the Wanderers to go down the same path as other clubs and have split supporter groups.

    I understand that there will always be differences of opinion, but it would just be nice if we could avoid any split.

    Remember........We Unite As One!!

    Having said that I think we can beat Adelaide and Pio to come good.
    I just hope that happens.

     

    I thought the fan base in general was a bit flat at our first home game, particularly after last seasons results.

    Fans are hanging for a home win, and to go home with hope.

    I think conceding the soft goals sent the crowd down a "here we go again" path. Given last seasons poor run and then to concede three soft goals it's understandable.

     

    I still think once The new guys settle we will hammer someone, hopefully Sydney in round 3

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    Lol

    Score one for the bad guys

    Main issues about the football, rbb needs to address it instead of being optimistic...

    Maybe you lot should stop trying to copy ultras from around the world.

    They have the option of supporting a team playing in the main city, regularly finishing top of the table, having a rich owner pumping money through the club keeping them at the top.

     

    Well this is Australia, and it's a salary capped league, you can't always finish on top, be ******* grateful for the highs this team has given you in the first 2 years.

     

    You are not entitled to ANYTHING, because most teams have the same expectations and realistically EVERY team can make a title run.

     

    Be realistic for ****s sake.

     

    Not entitled to ANYTHING what a load of crap.

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    This is great we are arguing that a socialist Football system is not as good as Capitalist system in Australia, I think the "might" U.S could do the same as they too have a salary cap.

     

    "Viva la Revolucion" in everything but football.

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    Politics should stay out of football and the terrace. Most people go to football to forget about that stuff, have fun and support their team - not to hear some big ego douchebag's opinion about ISIS or whatever.

     

    kindly **** off and form your own supporter group outside of the stadium pls.

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    This league is going to do your head in if you opt for the former Imo. It's designed to artificially reduce what a club can do. Squad sizes and salary cap and minimal imports and marquees etc etc.

    Amen. You're never going to have a dominance year after year like your EPL and La Liga big guns because every few years there's a rebuild, as if everything resets.

     

    As good as their squad is at the moment, people seem to forget that Victory are in a peak at the moment and have had their fair share of troughs, particularly before we came about. No side is immune to this for as long as there's a salary cap in place.

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    Could go in football and media but given its a really good analysis of the game, I am posting it here

     

    http://leopoldmethod.com.au/wanderers-rue-defensive-errors/

    At the corners where we conceded two goals I wonder whether the defenders are making errors because instead of concentrating on what is happening in the moment they are trying to think one step ahead on how to play out as required by this new possession system and thus making errors.

     

    This new play out system is not part of NTS's DNA. He's been ( successfully) hoofing it out since he was a kid and the requirement to play differently is affecting the  decisiveness  and confidence of his play. This along with the goalkeeping problem is causing these defensive calamities.

     

    Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Don't know what the answer is - either NTS goes or the system is changed back.

     

     

    You don't seriously think the defenders forgot to head the ball away from a corner because they were thinking "I should really control this on my chest and play tiki-taka inside my own 6 yard box until we are out of trouble"

     

    :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: That's one of your best Riva

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    This league is going to do your head in if you opt for the former Imo. It's designed to artificially reduce what a club can do. Squad sizes and salary cap and minimal imports and marquees etc etc.

    Yeah ACL as well. Previous premiers/champs start their campaign just as the next a-league season is getting to the business end.

    I saw a diagram once showing league position in the a-league season by season. pretty illustrative.

    I wrote about something similar in the squad development thread. Summary:

     

    In the 9 years since season one, 5 times BOTH top 2 teams dropped out of the top 2 the next year. Of the remaining 4 years, only once did both teams stay in the top 2 (CC and Brisbane in 2010-11 and 2011-12). So that means:

     

    56% of the time BOTH top 2 teams have dropped out of the top 2.

    33% of the time one of the top 2 teams has dropped out.

    11% of the time both teams have stayed in the top 2.

    0% of the time has a Premier repeated.

     

    Although CC have some claim to be the most consistent team (most top 4 finishes), Victory are the most successful, and yet they have made the finals just 7 times out of ten, the top four 6 times (CC 7 times), top two 4 times.

    So the most successful club has only made finals 70% of the time, top four 60%, top two 40%.

     

     

    In our first two years we went 1-2. Only CC, Brisbane and MV have managed that, and they've all only done it once in 10 years. We did it in 2!! (Also, only CC made the top 4 the year after their 1-2 run.)

     

     

    There WILL be years we don't make the finals. We don't have to enjoy it, but it's inevitable.

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    Lol

    Score one for the bad guys

    Main issues about the football, rbb needs to address it instead of being optimistic...

    Maybe you lot should stop trying to copy ultras from around the world.

    They have the option of supporting a team playing in the main city, regularly finishing top of the table, having a rich owner pumping money through the club keeping them at the top.

     

    Well this is Australia, and it's a salary capped league, you can't always finish on top, be ******* grateful for the highs this team has given you in the first 2 years.

     

    You are not entitled to ANYTHING, because most teams have the same expectations and realistically EVERY team can make a title run.

     

    Be realistic for ****s sake.

     

    Not entitled to ANYTHING what a load of crap.

    We are only entitled to 1 seat at the stadium and 10% off merchandise as per our membership conditions. Those who are not members (i.e. you most likely) are entitled to precisely nothing from the club.

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