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    Honda Runs Over Wanderers


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    Keisuke Honda lead his star studded Melbourne Victory team to a dominant 4-0 win over the Western Sydney Wanderers tonight in Melbourne.

    Western Sydney Wanderers were played off the park, battered against the formidable attacking quintet of Toivonen, Antonis, Barbarouses, Baena and the marquee man Honda. Victory took the lead after 10 minutes, Toivonen isolated Tarek Elrich on the byline, the Melbourne striker found Terry Antonis with a perfect diagonal cut-back, he turned and fired a lobbed cross to the back post, finding Honda all alone, taking advantage poor positioning from Raul Llorente to fire an uncontested header past Vedran Janetovic.

    The procession began in earnest on the half-hour. Barbarouses played a simple ball into Baena, Hamill dived to intercept but missed, leaving Elrich to prevent a shot on goal, the winger paused momentarily to allow Tarek to slide off into the sunset before striking it home. The rout continued from the penalty spot, Elrich giving away a penalty by falling at the feet of Barbarouses and knocking out the Victory winger's feet with his head. Barbarouses took the penalty he won, shooting to the opposite direction of Janjetovic's dive for 3-0.

    3-0 at the break and Victory looked hardly troubled, the Wanderers were inept across the park. That did not change at the break despite the withdrawal of Abraham Majok & Jordan O'Doherty in favour of Jaushua Sotirio and Marc Tokich. What little opportunity Western Sydney created in the Victory half was inevitably snuffed out by a poor ball or the numerous offside flags from the assistant referee.

    Victory took the foot off the pedal, conserving energy while still maintaining a level of danger to the Wanderers goal when required. Honda continued to pull the strings from midfield, carving apart the Wanderers defence like a samurai sword through a Christmas turkey. The final blow came 10 minutes from time as Victory produced the goal of the game and likely the round.

    A left foot Honda ball over the top found Barbarouses yet again, the Kiwi international on for a lovely first touch cross into the penalty area. Unselfishly, Toivonen killed the ball dead with a single touch into the path of Antonis. He put his laces right through the ball, Vedran dived the wrong way, and all the Wanderers defence could do was hopelessly appeal for an offside that was neither coming or deserved.

    The 4-0 result was a bollocking that drew comparisons to the 2014 Round One 4-1 loss in Melbourne, and to more recent hammerings such as the 4-0 loss in Newcastle or the 5-0 thrashing at the hands of Sydney FC. The Wanderers remain in 8th place, there is little hope of a top 4 run let alone a trophy this year. The club haven't started a season this poorly since the disastrous 2014/15 season where they had a solitary point after 6 rounds and ended the season on just 18.

    The Wanderers face the Central Coast Mariners at the Homebush Showground next Friday the 7th of December.

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    Struggling to see how we can beat Mariners next week.

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    1 minute ago, hawks2767 said:

    Struggling to see how we can beat Mariners next week.

    If they play against us how they played against SFC and we play like we played against Victory/Jets they'll beat us.

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    Will Ziegler and Roly be available though, they're our only hope.

     

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    8 minutes ago, hawks2767 said:

    Ziegler 

     

    Who?

    So the option for next Friday..rock up to a shite ground, on another shite pitch to watch the two worst teams in the comp slog it out for club owners that are also taking the piss....

    Why wouldn't we rock up? Why not slog yourself after work to get there through the traffic and all that...

    Sub 10k crowd awaits....

     

    Edited by Smoggy

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    Don't worry folks the new stadium will make these onfield debacles   go away just you wait and see...just think we will have a much better view of the Sh@te being served up to us..

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    2 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    Who?

    So the option for next Friday..rock up to a shite ground, on another shite pitch to watch the two worst teams in the comp slog it out for club owners that are also taking the piss....

    Why wouldn't we rock up? Why not slog yourself after work to get there through the traffic and all that....

     

    maybe we could all attend the matches with our crutches

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    3 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    Who?

    So the option for next Friday..rock up to a shite ground, on another shite pitch to watch the two worst teams in the comp slog it out for club owners that are also taking the piss....

    Why wouldn't we rock up? Why not slog yourself after work to get there through the traffic and all that....

     

    I’ll still be there 

     

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    Just now, StringerBellend said:

    I’ll still be there 

     

    Your my hero...

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    lol honestly i will still be going but the prospect does not excite me but i should be more loyal i missed enough wanderers matches last season, hard to be passionate about the club right now and not just because we have been terrible for the past 4 years but spotless is terrible and one of the people who sit near me wears crocs

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    23 minutes ago, Smoggy said:

    Who?

    So the option for next Friday..rock up to a shite ground, on another shite pitch to watch the two worst teams in the comp slog it out for club owners that are also taking the piss....

    Why wouldn't we rock up? Why not slog yourself after work to get there through the traffic and all that...

    Sub 10k crowd awaits....

     

    C'mon smoggy you get to be a grumpy bastard and have a whinge...and you wouldn't have it any other way.....lol

     

    Edited by sonar

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    You'd go just in the hope of a glimpse of JT or Lederer.

    I think Adelaide fans did it last season to their CEO.

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    53 minutes ago, hawks2767 said:

    Will Ziegler and Roly be available though, they're our only hope.

     

    Wot!!!  Jets beat us with five regular first team players missing, and this is all we have to look forward to??

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    1 hour ago, Harv said:

    Wot!!!  Jets beat us with five regular first team players missing, and this is all we have to look forward to??

    We don't even know the full potential of the team yet.

    If Ziegler doesn't improve the situation then I'll call it a write-off.

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    @Smoggy

    I wasn’t suggesting I’d be alone in that

     

    I’m not a hero

    I think dickhead is the term

    We will all be there, we are alll tragics

    Aren’t we?

    This is now starting to feel much more familiar to me, the success stuff never sat comfortably.

    Surely football is all about pain and misery.. its not supposed to be enjoyable 

     

     

    Edited by StringerBellend

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    As a matter of course a bunch of us book Victory away when the draw is announced and as a matter of course I expect a 3-1 loss the only difference this time was they also scored the fourth goal. There was nothing Active on and off the pitch. Tired of being embarrassed on and off the pitch. Another wasted season waiting for the second coming. 

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    There is locker room unrest. It just hasn't come out yet. 

    That of course isn't our only problem.

    I find it interesting to observe that this far into Gombao's tenure people were calling for his head.

    Not so much for Babbel. 

    I think fans are starting to understand its rotten from top to bottom. It's a problem bigger than the coach. 

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    With the new make up of the FFA board and things going to sh*t on so many metrics across the league maybe it is time for the fans to stand up and get the 51% community owned model going. 

     

     

    Edited by westofcentre

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    50 minutes ago, westofcentre said:

    With the new make up of the FFA board and things going to sh*t on so many metrics across the league maybe it is time for the fans to stand up and get the 51% community owned model going. 

     

     

    Can you imagine if the Facebook "fans" owned 51% of the club? It would be a disaster 

     

    But then I guess it already is... So nothing lost there! 

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    Players to be returned back to the shop. We still have the receipt so a refund shoudn't be a problem. 

    Llorente, Elrich, Hamill,Kamau,Baccus & Sotiro. 

     

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    What's wrong with Kamau and Babbel hasn't a squad. 

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    I’ve said it a couple of times but been dismissed on here. When 3 of the players just signed to the club (under the previous coach) are being told they’re not wanted & can move elsewhere before a ball has even been kicked it doesn’t bode well for the rest of the season. Our assistant manager has views on players from 5+ years ago & wont change them, he has a mixed relationship with many of the players. It doesn’t lead to a happy squad.

    Everyone is still banging on about ABJ. When he went off last night our replacement AM got his hands on the ball more in his 10mins then ABJ did all game.  That either has something to do with his general work ethic, effort or our wide men not giving him the space required. Probably a bit of all 3, but he would be riding the pine if not for his resume. The same can also be said for our no.9. A couple of times last night he had the opportunity to offload the ball to someone in a better position but instead tried to shoot through the 5 players standing in front of him.

    Victory (& Sydney) certainly are a couple of classes above us in terms of squad, but I don’t buy into the notion we have a weaker squad then every other side. You could throw a blanket over 7 sides in terms of the ability of the squad. 

    Edited by Bellby

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    58 minutes ago, DamnedUnited said:

    What's wrong with Kamau and Babbel hasn't a squad. 

    He adds to the long line of Wanderers wingers with pace that beat a man but can’t score 

    he’s been one of our better players, that illustrates the gulf between us and victory

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    9 minutes ago, Jukes01 said:

    You have to wonder where it all went wrong and for me this didn't just happen overnight or even the last few weeks. It stems all the way back to when Popa left us with a few weeks to go into the 2017-18 season. The first mistake from the club was not securing any succession planning or contingency for the day when Popa would leave. We all knew that he was ambitious and wanted a crack at Europe and that him leaving the club was a real possibility.  Sh!t timing on Popa's part but we had Foxe in charge for a few weeks who would have continued the style of play under Popa and would have used the players with signed to play the style they were signed for. In hindsight we would have been better off having Foxe in charge for at least one year.

    Of course Lederer and those in charge wanted to make a big statement and signed Gombau and were ready to suck his dick to sign him up. I think he is a good coach and plays a good style of football but for some reason it takes an age for players to grasp the way he wants them to play. I personally don't think he was quite the right fit for us but there were some bright spots in some of the games we were playing and you could see that towards the end of his tenure. The problem was that the Wanderers and Lederer knew of Gombau's history and how long it takes to implement his style but didn't have the patience to see it through. We signed a bunch of players including key Marquee players that were all ready to play under Popa's style. Its no wonder there was a player revolt at the end and what's worse is that the club backed the players instead of the coach. That sends a wrong message in my opinion. 

    The next big mistake was allowing Gombau to sign a bunch of players for the following season while contemplating getting rid of him. Seriously why the fuuck would you allow that to happen. If you allow a coach to sign players you are giving him the green light to continue for the next season. Why would you then go and sack him. This now has derailed Babbels season to a certain degree because now his hands are tied to players who were signed specifically for the way Gombau wanted to play and so the cycle continues, rinse repeat.

    We are in a huge whole all because of decisions made from prior seasons. I think Babbel is a good fit but we have to give him a proper opportunity in order for him and the club to be successful again. We are playing like absolute dog Sh!t but its mainly because of the poor decisions made by the club and allowing certain players at the club to have too much power and influence (older Baccus comes to mind, Roly, Riera). Nothing wrong with players having influence as long as everyone is pulling in the same direction. There is no easy fix but it started from the top and they are the ones who can fix this. 

     

     

    Not saying it’s right (it isn’t) but the club signed the Gombau players knowing he was probably going with the theory that there is a limited supply of decent Australian players so grab them when available

    The problem in that theory is that we have rushed in to signing a bunch of ok a league players who would be no more than squad players at victory 

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    2 hours ago, westofcentre said:

    There is locker room unrest. It just hasn't come out yet. 

    That of course isn't our only problem.

    I find it interesting to observe that this far into Gombao's tenure people were calling for his head.

    Not so much for Babbel. 

    I think fans are starting to understand its rotten from top to bottom. It's a problem bigger than the coach. 

    The knives were out for gombau from day one. Titsy and lockeroom snitch gavin had bridgy, roly,santa,riera,cornballs feed the media with crap. Titsy undermined Gombau’s authority very early as well. Riera refused to adhere to tactics, bacchus refused to travel when he knew he was on the bench. 

    Have a look at the media capaign after only one game with gombau in charge. The fox camp had a plan to undermine the new coach as they were bitter about not giving foxy the job. A very well orchestrated and loyal coup put in place and it worked.

    Daily reports were made to foxy by phone by gavin and co.

    its amazing in this day and age that forums such as this are not capable of reporting/uncovering the truth.

    drug bust in double bay was also a massive coverup during popa’ reign as it was no secret the vice captain had issues all season but to save popas face titsy had to do a massive please keep it quiet plea to the media.

    good luck MACK with head  in the sand approach

     

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    We were kicked around from the get go last night. Both ABJ and Riera (especially). Once the tone was set, no one responded. Toivonen, Antonis, Barbs or Honda, not one of them got a kicking until the 2nd half. Babbel was right about them being boys against men. The soft early yellow on Elrich didn't help but Hamill went missing and the two scrawny kids at number 6 couldn't do caca. 

    The squad problems were seriously exposed last night, as was the lack of experience, toughness and composure. 

    Not sure how much lands at Babbel's feet. Are there players in the squad not selected who could have done better? How could we set up differently? As soon as ABJ and Riera are marked (or kicked) out of the game we have nothing in transition. 

    Gombau and club leadership left the squad totally unbalanced, too many wide players with little goal scoring and a shallow defensive unit. Unfilled Marquee spot. Add to that injuries in all the wrong places ( Zeigler, Roly, Tongyik, Bridge) and no fire power off the bench when Riera can't score. 

    I don't know if we made them look good but Victory in that form would have put any team in the bottom half of the league to the sword last night. 

    Scraping the 6 is possible but this squad won't hang with top 4 or 5, regardless of coaching. 

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