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    Jets Down Wanderers In Newcastle


    mack

    The Western Sydney Wanderers have been beaten by Newcastle Jets tonight as they suffered their 3rd A-league defeat in a row.

    Another controversial defeat, the Jets took advantage of lucky officiating to stay in the game until the second half where they opened the scoring in the 76th minute with a goalmouth scramble, and a 2nd late on from Dimi Petratos.

    Goalkeeper Daniel Lopar starred for the Wanderers, particularly in stopping the Jets strikers in multiple one-on-one situations. The first in the 15th minute was a right footed block against Jason Hoffman. Later on he used the opposite foot to deny Arroyo from an acute angle.

    Just like the week prior where the Wanderers were stuffed by a joke of a penalty call by an inept referee. Whereas last week they were punished by a non-penalty, this week they suffered from two obvious penalties in their favour being denied by Kurt Ams. Kwame Yeboah was clear through on goal when he was bought down from behind, Ams missed it completely, then ambled over for a VAR check that lasted about 2 seconds before denying the obvious penalty. Shortly after Nikolai Topor-Stanley should have given away another penalty for a stomp on the feet of the Wanderers attacker, but it was also waved away.

    The second half the Wanderers dominated the early stages, and were unlucky not to take the lead on the hour mark. Daniel Georgievski's short pass to Mitch Duke resulted in a first time right footed strike that Glenn Moss dove smartly for to deny, a follow up from Nicolai Muller was covered up once more by Moss and the last shot of the action was an acrobatic & inventive leaping kung-fu style front kick by Duke that blasted the ball over the top of the goal.

    Newcastle went in front in the 77th minute. After a dinked chip to the back post that was knocked down by a Jets attacker, Pirmin Schwegler stuck out a boot off-balance to prevent it reaching another Jets player only for it to fall to the feet of Angus Thurgate 3 yards from goal and he fired past Lopar. Newcastle sealed the game in the 85th minute, taking full advantage of Schwegler being kept off the pitch by the fourth official for a blood inspection despite him having already been cleaned up by the physio. After losing the ball in midfield, Newcastle dropped a long ball over the top of the stretched Wanderers defence, Thurgate timed his run well, drew Lopar out of goal and passed off to Dimi Petratos who tapped the ball into the open net.

    The Wanderers travel to Eden Park in New Zealand next week to face the Wellington Phoenix on Saturday December 7th.

    Edited by mack

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    8 hours ago, scarcev said:

    when we have lost games we could of got something out of yet on here you would think we were rock bottom

    I can’t speak for others but it’s the way that Babbel is tactically naive which is for me a big red flashing light.

    We may be fourth on the ladder but coaching wise the way we are set up & what we are doing is far and away from a team wanting to win trophies. I certainly expect more from someone with his playing & coaching pedigree.

    21 minutes ago, Upthehill said:

    Gumby

    Babbel shouldn’t be compared to Gombau. Hell, he didn’t even have the confidence of his own players, everyone thought he was a joke & he had no idea what he was doing. Apples & oranges

    Be such a crazy move for the club to fire Babbel if it brought a similar situation as it did when popa left (as in we are left with nothing but NPL options for the rest of the season).

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    11 minutes ago, Prydzopolis said:

    Babbel shouldn’t be compared to Gombau. Hell, he didn’t even have the confidence of his own players, everyone thought he was a joke & he had no idea what he was doing. Apples & oranges

     

    ......and how many of those players are still with us Prydz.? 

    I have no problem with how Gumby was dealt with but as I said when he was manager that it was the players who were the main part of the problem.....and they were. Babbel had an even worse season with them and got rid of them......most of them. Now people kept saying to me that it's the managers job to get the players to perform on the pitch. Gumby didn't and got the boot but one and a half seasons in and Babbel seems to be having problems doing that as well.

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    Usually managers are sacked before the season ends because the club needs to do something to avoid relegation. This is not the case in Oz and even if you change coaches nothing is expected till the following season.

    All this talk about Muscat only started because someone here asked the question.....the jurnos cannot even be bothered to make up their own rumors 😊

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    IF (and that’s a big if) Babbel and the team continue to underperform, and let’s hypothetically say there is a coaching vacancy for next season, I would take Muscat in a heart beat. 

    He has a proven track record, both as a player and as a manager in the A-League, and would be tactically better. 

    Im starting to think, signing unknown players from random overseas teams can be hit and miss, why would managers be any different? 

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    19 minutes ago, Beer said:

    IF (and that’s a big if) Babbel and the team continue to underperform, and let’s hypothetically say there is a coaching vacancy for next season, I would take Muscat in a heart beat. 

    He has a proven track record, both as a player and as a manager in the A-League, and would be tactically better. 

    Im starting to think, signing unknown players from random overseas teams can be hit and miss, why would managers be any different? 

    Fully agree, fwiw.

    I hope, in the future, we can get someone who understands the A League, can get the best out of local players, dealing with local conditions.

    Not a manager from overseas, who prefers ageing foreigners untested by and unfamiliar with gruelling local conditions, as opposed to proven A League performers.

     

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    #Ange_is_a_Wanderer

    Lets bring him here .

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    One day.

    Hey imagine Ange's free flowing attacking football coupled with our Westie fighting spirit.

    :golecapproves:

     

     

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    Now Dave Lewis writing for the World Game is on the Babbel out bus.

    https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/axe-imminent-for-babbel-as-wanderers-patience-wears-thin

    Under-pressure Markus Babbel could find himself out the door at Western Sydney Wanderers as soon as this weekend, if the struggling club fall to a fourth successive A-League defeat at Wellington Phoenix.

    UPDATEDUPDATED 6 HOURS AGO
    BY DAVE LEWIS

    Patience with the German coach is near breaking point, amid speculation that concerned chairman Paul Lederer was poised to pull the trigger prior to Saturday’s 2-0 loss to Newcastle Jets.

    Lederer’s finger remains poised as he seeks answers to an alarming form slump which has seen the Wanderers fall from ladder leaders after four rounds to fourth spot after seven - and winless since a fortuitous 1-0 derby victory over Sydney FC five weeks ago.

    It’s understood Lederer gave Babbel a five-game ultimatum at the start of the campaign to convince him he was the right man to lead the club into a glowing new era at Bankwest Stadium.

    Doubts were implanted in Lederer’s mind after the former Liverpool defender’s indifferent first season at Wanderland - an eighth-placed finish yielding just six wins.

     

    Babbel, 47, looked to have found a panacea as the Wanderers jumped out of the blocks early this season, but familiar frailties and inconsistency have resurfaced once more - in tandem with post-match temper tantrums - to further erode his position.

    Stern criticism of his players, after the loss on the Hunter hasn’t endeared him to the squad, some of whom are already bamboozled by his methodology.

    With Lederer having invested heavily in a new training complex and approving Babbel bringing in the likes of former Bundesliga players Pirmin Schwegler, Nicolai Muller and Alexander Meier, the chairman was anticipating instant dividends.

    With so much invested, and so much on the line this season, Lederer isn’t willing to show too much more largesse.

    Former Melbourne Victory coach Kevin Muscat - currently scouring the overseas markets for an opening - has been linked with the job should Babbel go.

    However, it’s likely to club would once again opt for an overseas coach.

    Western Sydney were contacted for comment.

     

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    It's a bit of a beat up but maybe there needs to be a bit of pressure European tabloid style. 

    If the boys back him in the locker room, they'll stand up and play well enough to go on a run. Until recently they've looked like a tight unit on and off the pitch, so there is some optimism here.

    It may sound like a cop out but I think the derby hangover is worse than imagined. The emotional pressure on that result was immense and came from every layer of the club. Maybe it resulted in it being framed as an ends in itself and now they're a bit purposeless. 

    The tactical hole at number 10 is tough to sort. Its almost like the plan is just to run a lot of intricate overloads and quick passing to do the distribution job of a ball playing 10. Sometimes it works but the level of concentration to do it, retain possession and not be caught on the counter is beyond our squad. 

    Really Sullivan has shown the most potential to be composed and pivot the dm to front 4. Like to see him worked in somehow. 

     

     

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