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    Despite a chance to go 5 points clear on top of the A-League, the Wanderers elected instead to hand one of their title rivals all three points with a display of utter incompetence.

     

    Brisbane opened the scoring 4 minutes in after absorbing pressure for the opening exchanges. Jamie McClaren continued his scoring run, Hingert broke down the right flank with Sotirio failing to track back, his cut back found Maclaren and his attempt squeezed underneath Liam Reddy as Brendan Hamill got caught ball watching. Thankfully for the visitor's, even with the Roar dominating the play, they went into the break just a goal down.

     

    It took all the way until the 74th minute before the Wanderers even looked like scoring, as Tony Popovic elected not to make early subs, his first one, Santalab was put through on goal by Mitch Nichols, the striker being cut down by Michael Theo the Roar keeper, and despite the clear goal scoring opportunity only being punished with a yellow card. Andreu stepped up for the penalty shot and managed to beat Theo down the middle.

     

    4 minutes later it looked like the Wanderers were going to storm clear at the top as Romeo Castelen waltzed through a sea of Roar defenders, a heavy touch was beneficial in that it kept the ball out of a desperate lunge by Bowles, before his shot fired under Theo.

     

    In the 81st minute the Wanderers lead, and their grip on the Premiership had evaporated. Another awful attempt at defending by Hamill saw Maclaren ghost in unmarked at the near post to slice it past Reddy. Petratos rubbed salt into the wounds as Henrique took advantage of an abysmal sideways attempted pass from Dimas, playing in Petratos who slotted it home for 3-2.

     

    A score of 4-2 looked more likely that 3-3, and the introduction of Matt Sim & Kearyn Baccus far too late did nothing to change the situation. Substitutions coming far too late has become something of a trend for Tony Popovic, and the ongoing selection of the useless Jaushua Sotirio is more and more baffling after every week where he fails to perform. A game that could have cemented a spot at the top of the table was not the time to experiment with Mebrahtu playing upfront in his first start ever, nor was it the time to throw Matt Sim into the squad. A massive improvement is needed for the club to have any hope of winning either of the trophies on offer at the end of the season.


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    We're fighting for the title.

     

    What's the problem?

     

    Losing the fight?

     

    The fight was won if we held on to 2-1. Now, finishing in the top 2 is looking like an uphill battle.

     

    Implied 'who cares' posts directly after significant losses are a bit too cool for school, and wgmg. Part of being a supporter is emotional involvement.

     

     

    That's kind of it though isn't it.. 2-1 and this thread is very very different. In fact last Week it was dead post match and we could easily have lost that one. But a loss - and sure its disappointing - but it leaves us still on top for the moment - and everyone loses their **** and calls it the worst performance and its all over. Plenty of time left, we play Adelaide in a couple of weeks which was always going to be the real decider. We've not had a striker all season. All season! And we re top. We are lucky to be in the position we are in given that. No bridge forced some changes. No NTS. A very thin bench. And its football. **** happens. Its why I love it.

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    We're fighting for the title.

    What's the problem?

    Losing the fight?

    The fight was won if we held on to 2-1. Now, finishing in the top 2 is looking like an uphill battle.

    Implied 'who cares' posts directly after significant losses are a bit too cool for school, and wgmg. Part of being a supporter is emotional involvement.

    Couldn't agree with you more. On the flip side, The implied "it's all over" posts are equally wgmg. It's much harder to finish top now for sure, and our fate is not entirely in our hands for now. We're stuttering at the wrong end of the season. But we ARE still in the mix in the closest title race for a while.

     

    We need to respond next week against the jets. Adelaide geared up as yet another block buster for the season. Victory will be huge as it always is. Nix to close it out.

     

    Plenty of emotion to be had I reckon.

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    Ref was woeful. But i blame a stubborness not to change things up a little. Certain Players were clearly tired and or on a yellow and out of form during the match.

     

    Between misfield and the inability of sotirio they were 2 points that were crying out for a change. 2-1 up, take Dimas off! Ffs he was on a yellow and his pressing game suffered along with wayward passing.

    Sim didnt offer much but we were 3-2 down and he certainly would have added some more buzz. **** decisions making on poppas part in this match

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    We're fighting for the title.

    What's the problem?

     

    Losing the fight?

    The fight was won if we held on to 2-1. Now, finishing in the top 2 is looking like an uphill battle.

    Implied 'who cares' posts directly after significant losses are a bit too cool for school, and wgmg. Part of being a supporter is emotional involvement.

     

    That's kind of it though isn't it.. 2-1 and this thread is very very different. In fact last Week it was dead post match and we could easily have lost that one. But a loss - and sure its disappointing - but it leaves us still on top for the moment - and everyone loses their **** and calls it the worst performance and its all over. Plenty of time left, we play Adelaide in a couple of weeks which was always going to be the real decider. We've not had a striker all season. All season! And we re top. We are lucky to be in the position we are in given that. No bridge forced some changes. No NTS. A very thin bench. And its football. **** happens. Its why I love it.

    Exactly. First half Brisbane deserved their lead and were slightly better and pressed us hard.. But the first 35 mins of the second half we were the far better team and deserved our lead. At that stage people would have spoken fondly of every player.

     

    The last 10 mins was shocking in trying to close the game out, but it probably says more about our belief in winning the Premiers Plate than anything else. It's like the nerves hit immediately when we realised the position we were in. I think to some extent we doubt ourselves. We look more vulnerable in defending these days. But that's football. We got some luck in the Perth game last week. We didn't tonight.

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    We're fighting for the title.

    What's the problem?

    Losing the fight?

    The fight was won if we held on to 2-1. Now, finishing in the top 2 is looking like an uphill battle.

    Implied 'who cares' posts directly after significant losses are a bit too cool for school, and wgmg. Part of being a supporter is emotional involvement.

     

    That's kind of it though isn't it.. 2-1 and this thread is very very different. In fact last Week it was dead post match and we could easily have lost that one. But a loss - and sure its disappointing - but it leaves us still on top for the moment - and everyone loses their **** and calls it the worst performance and its all over. Plenty of time left, we play Adelaide in a couple of weeks which was always going to be the real decider. We've not had a striker all season. All season! And we re top. We are lucky to be in the position we are in given that. No bridge forced some changes. No NTS. A very thin bench. And its football. **** happens. Its why I love it.

    Exactly. First half Brisbane deserved their lead and were slightly better and pressed us hard.. But the first 35 mins of the second half we were the far better team and deserved our lead. At that stage people would have spoken fondly of every player.

    The last 10 mins was shocking in trying to close the game out, but it probably says more about our belief in winning the Premiers Plate than anything else. It's like the nerves hit immediately when we realised the position we were in. I think to some extent we doubt ourselves. We look more vulnerable in defending these days. But that's football. We got some luck in the Perth game last week. We didn't tonight.

     

    Feel like I'm watching Arsenal blow their titles chances all over again

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    Anyone tell me WTF was with Dimas' wayward pass that led to the winner ? Dumb move or match fixing ?

     

    Seems completely out of character for someone with his pedigree and at the worst of times.

    Dimas usually does one or two of those square under-hit WTF passes every game. Pre and very early season it was more like 3 or 4 a game. We pass the ball square so many times it's an accident waiting to happen. Tonight he/we got punished. Possession does not equal control.

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    Den is shitter every trip I make here. 

     

    Ben williams is shitter every time he steps on the field.

     

    Probably didn't deserve to win but at 2-1 **** me if Topor is there I don't see us throwing it away. Oh well.

    Popa little be deluded in post game talking about how well we played, we created next to nothing. But I guess we did control large parts of 2nd half. 

     

    A highlight for me was giving my RBB scarf to crying child post game, took away her tears. Ended the night well  :)

     

    Still in the race, hopefully Bridge and Vidosic back next week. Who play Adelaide beat them please.

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    Anyone tell me WTF was with Dimas' wayward pass that led to the winner ? Dumb move or match fixing ?

     

    Seems completely out of character for someone with his pedigree and at the worst of times.

    Dimas usually does one or two of those square under-hit WTF passes every game. Pre and very early season it was more like 3 or 4 a game. We pass the ball square so many times it's an accident waiting to happen. Tonight he/we got punished. Possession does not equal control.

     

     

    Dimas was tired and frustrated...

     

    But over all it was sloppy and an unnecessary display....the late subs are bullshit...I just dont understand - Santa ok,  but Cole should have been brought on early 

    First goal was Hamill forgetting to track/mark his man. Second goal was Hamill forgetting to track/mark his man. So, if Popa had listened to me and played Aspro like I told him to we would have won 2-1

     

    Hamil was up marking Petratos on the edge of the box for the first - it went in off Alberto

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    Ben Williams is pathetic.  None of the first four yellow cards were worthy of a yellow card, including the Brisbane one.  I'd rather have his blind grandmother ref our games than this clown.

     

    Need more ACL quality refs, they let the game flow and don't blow the whistle every time a player breathes on one another

     

    How the **** Williams has a job is beyond mortal comprehension

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    As others have said, we were leaderless on the park tonight with no Captain NTS or Captain Fathead. We needed someone to take charge, especially in the 1st half.

    I think that Mitch tried, but is lacking experience in that role.

     

    I think Popa was right that the Ref was the difference between the 2 sides tonight.

    Brisbane played a very physical game, but other than the blatant hacks that Williams couldn't ignore, he mostly seemed to only penalise us for physical challenges.

    Williams gave them a Yellow card when it should have been Red, or No card when it should have been a Yellow.

     

    Having said all that, Brisbane are a hard side to beat at home with that humidity. And we weren't up to it tonight with an inexperienced side. (I don't think there was a single Wanderer on the park tonight who played in our Grand Final at Suncorp.)

     

    Onwards to Newcastle. COYW.

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    I just can't hate Maclaren... The guy is a gun and seems humble as

    WE SHOULD OF KEPT ******* PIO ... Perfect for these games

    I so agree with the first comment there.

     

    He was amazing last year for Perth....and whenever I watch him now, I admire him and wish he played for us.

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    Two things...

     

    Well played to the traveling support. Excellent all game.

     

    And

     

    Can't blame the refs. Refs don't make your centre backs not mark up, or your mids give the ball away or not close out on the winger.

     

    Disappointing to hear popa take the blame the refs approach. We hammer Arnie for doing that.

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    Spider told Lucy Zelic at half time that the referee was the difference, but from my high camera angle view we played ****. The refereeing was rubbish, but if you can't mark up or move into space when attacking, then we're going to suffer at both ends (and we did).

     

    Castelan just seems unable to pass the ball at first opportunity, it's as if it's against his instinct. Even simple decisions/balls when he isn't running at players take too long. I love the bloke, but he is so frustrating. His goal was typical of his runs, but his heavy touch actually fooled the defender (luckily).

     

    Who is that Sim guy? I'm just going to say nerves got the better of him and hope he can grow into his role

     

    The loss we had to have. I can see this is all because we never play Saba anymore

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    First goal was Hamill forgetting to track/mark his man. Second goal was Hamill forgetting to track/mark his man. So, if Popa had listened to me and played Aspro like I told him to we would have won 2-1

     

    First goal Sotirio lost the ball cheaply on the halfway line and their break led to a corner and we never recovered and they scored. Second goal totally down to Dimas with that misplaced pass. You can't blame Hamill for elementary errors further up the field.

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    So I wake up,this morning and it's still true. We lost. Truly devastating after that come back.

     

    Popa's complaints of the ref I think were justified to some extent. He pointed out two very specific incidents. The Sotirio one in particular had the potential to change the game.

     

    The comment in our house was that when Williams refs, he likes to make himself the centre of attention, rather than the football. There's always controversy with him.

     

    That being said, we fell asleep. Why on earth did we not park the bus after we were ahead? Just like every team does against us.

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    Same as every week, our defending is attrocious and we afford too much space with slack marking and dont put our bodies on the line to clear the ball. All of the goals could have been avoided had someone stuck a leg in to get to the ball first.... The goals we conceeded were soft and it has been a reoccuring theme for the whole season... If we are inconsistent then we do not deserve to finish in the top 2. Our squad also looks very paper thin in numbers and the lack of strike options to cover for injuries will be our major issue from here on in. City, Adelaide, Roar and Perth seem to have more than enough strike options and that is why they can score more than 2 goals every game. This will be a tough run home to the plate, as every game will not be easy except for maybe the ccm game. There is the possibility we can lose to adelaide, jets, victory and wellington.

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    So I wake up,this morning and it's still true. We lost. Truly devastating after that come back.

     

    Popa's complaints of the ref I think were justified to some extent. He pointed out two very specific incidents. The Sotirio one in particular had the potential to change the game.

     

    The comment in our house was that when Williams refs, he likes to make himself the centre of attention, rather than the football. There's always controversy with him.

     

    That being said, we fell asleep. Why on earth did we not park the bus after we were ahead? Just like every team does against us.

     

    I don't usually comment much on game technicalities, due to lack of knowledge, but do we have the skill and confidence these days to rely on parking the bus??

     

     I personally don't like to see that. Sure a team needs to defend a lead desperately, and we didn't seem to do that.... but to me it's dangerous... and uninspiring. (fwiw)

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    To put the run home into perspective: there are five games left to play and we play the third last, second last and last placed teams.  We play Adelaide at home.  I'll throw it out there, if we can't win with this then we don't deserve to win diddly squat, we couldn't have a better run from here on in if we got to draw it up ourselves.  We want to think we are premiership contenders but are terrified of playing the second and third last teams?  Seriously?  To put things in perspective the Meow play MV twice, City and ESFC on their run home.  City play Adelaide twice, ESFC and Perth in Perth.  Adelaide are the only other ones with a reasonable run home playing City twice and us away.

     

    Topor's a funny one, everyone jumps on him when he makes a mistake but I think last night showed how much he does contribute.  He's one of those players that you only notice if he stuffs something up but if you don't notice him that means he has done his job well.  Hugely missed last night.

     

    Dimas needed to be pulled, the man looked like he was about to explode.  The inconsistent refereeing seemed to bother him more than most which is really saying something when two of the cooler managers in the league were both on their feet looking like they wanted to throttle Williams.  **** ESFC, Ben Williams is the ******* joke of the A League.

     

    You know we have problems up front when JayZko is calling for a Pio call up.  I had to re-read that a few times to make sure I wasn't seeing things.  Can anyone seriously say we would have been worse off with Pio out there yesterday?  Sorry to say but we looked a lot better with him in the squad earlier in the year.  Yes I know it's not happening.  On the subject of what's happening up front, we seriously miss Captain Fathead.

     

    On a different note I heard a rumour that Santalab was spotted walking on water the other day, confirmed?  Can this man do anything wrong?

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    From a scratch to gangrene?? Good to meet a bunch of forumites first time. Still hard to swallow the loss after we gave it to their supporters after taking the lead. I doubt whether we were struck by Vertigo at the prospect of taking the Premiers Plate. We fell beneath the level of a team that's been hammered. Our indifferent 'luck' was bound to be exposed. So okay we're still first but cold comfort for the run home.

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    So I wake up,this morning and it's still true. We lost. Truly devastating after that come back.

     

    Popa's complaints of the ref I think were justified to some extent. He pointed out two very specific incidents. The Sotirio one in particular had the potential to change the game.

     

    The comment in our house was that when Williams refs, he likes to make himself the centre of attention, rather than the football. There's always controversy with him.

     

    That being said, we fell asleep. Why on earth did we not park the bus after we were ahead? Just like every team does against us.

     

    I don't usually comment much on game technicalities, due to lack of knowledge, but do we have the skill and confidence these days to rely on parking the bus??

     

     I personally don't like to see that. Sure a team needs to defend a lead desperately, and we didn't seem to do that.... but to me it's dangerous... and uninspiring. (fwiw)

    It is dangerous to just try and sit back and absorb pressure. Particularly against a side like Brisbane (when they play well). You're inviting the other team to continue attacking you, keep building pressure, and you're relying on every player not slipping up and giving them the opportunity.

     

    We can play it, but I think we prefer not to (nowadays). If you have the ball in possession, the other team can't score a goal.

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    Two things...

     

    Well played to the traveling support. Excellent all game.

     

    And

     

    Can't blame the refs. Refs don't make your centre backs not mark up, or your mids give the ball away or not close out on the winger.

     

    Disappointing to hear popa take the blame the refs approach. We hammer Arnie for doing that.

    Oh don't take my level of dedication to slamming the referees as a shift of blame from the players.

     

    We definitely shot ourselves in the foot. Can't blame the ref for Dimas giving the ball away.

     

    But Ben Williams is a shït stain on the underpants that is A-League referees.

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    So I wake up,this morning and it's still true. We lost. Truly devastating after that come back.

     

    Popa's complaints of the ref I think were justified to some extent. He pointed out two very specific incidents. The Sotirio one in particular had the potential to change the game.

     

    The comment in our house was that when Williams refs, he likes to make himself the centre of attention, rather than the football. There's always controversy with him.

     

    That being said, we fell asleep. Why on earth did we not park the bus after we were ahead? Just like every team does against us.

     

    I don't usually comment much on game technicalities, due to lack of knowledge, but do we have the skill and confidence these days to rely on parking the bus??

     

     I personally don't like to see that. Sure a team needs to defend a lead desperately, and we didn't seem to do that.... but to me it's dangerous... and uninspiring. (fwiw)

    It is dangerous to just try and sit back and absorb pressure. Particularly against a side like Brisbane (when they play well). You're inviting the other team to continue attacking you, keep building pressure, and you're relying on every player not slipping up and giving them the opportunity.

     

    We can play it, but I think we prefer not to (nowadays). If you have the ball in possession, the other team can't score a goal.

     

     

    Two seasons ago if we wanted to park the bus the game could have gone on for another week and they wouldn't have scored against us.  I think we went for something like a 6 month stretch, including ACL finals games against the best teams in Asia, without conceding a single goal at home.

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    I dont know why everyone is blaming ben williams for the loss?? It was our shite inept defending and lack of closing off a match that cost us 3 points! Yes he gave some questionable fouls and cards against us but he did award a penalty and we did hold a 2-1 lead with 10 to go. Our inept defence cost us the 3 points. Is it that hard to dig in and defend it out for 10mins?? The real issue is the concentration lapses that have been occurring for most part of the season.

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    Disappointed with result as everyone else is but we are still top with a team that was all but new this season, and have only won 3 from 9. Still all good. Travelling support turned out in number for a Friday. Lost my voice, didn't help.having the flu. Well done pup for getting the rest involved. Still haven't seen us beat the meow in Support.

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