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  • Same Old Wanderers Fall To Macarthur Debut Defeat


    mack

    The Western Sydney Wanderers began their 2020/21 A-League campaign hosting new side Macarthur FC, resulting in a lucky 1-0 win for the visitors after a Mark Milligan deflection from a free kick gave the Bulls all three points in their debut.

    Macarthur FC Bulls out of Campbelltown drove down the Hume Highway to take part in their first ever A-League match. The Wanderers new manager Carl Robinson picked a lineup including all of the major new signings for the champions of Asia, with James Troisi, Graham Dorrans, Bernie Ibini, Daniel Margush and Ziggy Gordon joining returning players Tass Mourdoukoutas, Daniel Georgievski, Tate Russell, Keanu Baccus, Simon Cox and newly appointed club Captain Dylan McGowan.

    The opening stages were a flurry of activity with little end result, until the officials and the VAR made their introduction with the awarding of a clear handball against Jovanovic after the defender reacted poorly to a long shot from Dorrans, and moved his arms from his side into the path of the ball. The referee after spending 5 minutes reviewing slow motion replays elected to overturn his correct decision and cancel the penalty.

    Simon Cox was later booked after tripping over his feet in the Macarthur penalty area, as it to emphasis yet again that the referees will be looking for any excuse to punish the Wanderers. New season, same old referees in the A-League. Macarthur dominated most of the half, with multiple chances falling to Wanderers youth product Moudi Najjar.

    Tate Russell had one of the better chances after cutting inside onto his left before firing into the hands of Adam Federici at the near post of the Macarthur goal. Russell sprug into life again with a burst down the sideline, his cutback found Cox and the marquee striker hammered it high but straight and Federici tipped it over. From the resulting corner the ball fell to Ibini, he was on the back foot and his strike lacked direction.

    The two sides traded shots on target in the first minutes of the second half, Troisi brought out the best from Federici in order to stop his sliding shot.

    Macarthur thought they had their first A-League goal, James Meredith sliced through the Wanderers defence before sliding the ball across the 6 yard box for an unmarked Rose to tap in from a few yards out, only to be denied by a very tight, but accurate, offside flag. Federici was called into action again in the 55th minute, after Macarthur blocked a Dorrans shot that fell to Baccus the young midfielder fired towards the top corner and the Bulls custodian leapt into the air to keep it out. It was followed up by a mammoth goal-line scramble with Troisi, Mourdoukoutas, Ibini all getting touches but Gordon couldn't find an angle to shoot. Daniel Margush saved a mirror effort of Cox's shot from the first half, this time coming from Bulls substitute Benat.

    Keanu Baccus gave away what became a fatal free kick in the 71st minute. His slight clip of Hollman invited the ref to hand Macarthur a free kick slightly off-centre and 24 yards out from goal. He fired towards the far post before a massive deflection diverted the ball past a Margush desperate lunge to give the visitor's their first goal in a competitive fixture.

    As the game entered stoppage time Mark Milligan tried to chip Margush from beyond halfway but lacked the power to fly over the head of the keeper. Kwame Yeboah got lucky as a Macarthur tackle knocked the ball into his path, with a couple of strides into the area he shot toward the near post but Federici's outstretched hand blocked it well.

    Ultimately the Wanderers did the same thing they've done for years now, fail to gel with their passing combinations, lacked quality in the final third and ran around like headless chickens for no reward. It's not the start Carl Robinson would have asked for, and keeps the Wanderers in last place with fellow first round losers Brisbane Roar.

    The Wanderers next match is scheduled for Friday the 8th of January 2021 against Newcastle Jets in Newcastle.


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    10 minutes ago, mack said:

    ......."Ultimately the Wanderers did the same thing they've done for years now, fail to gel with their passing combinations, lacked quality in the final third".......

    Yep.  Not playing senior players in trials was stupid.

    Lucky to get away with conceding 1 tbh.

    On the positive side Tate Russell was great as was Ziggy Gordon. Margush was OK....the goal was not his error.

    Dorrans was terrible as was Cox.  I really hope Georgeivski is out next match.

    Robinson has a lot of work to do or it's going to be a long season.

    Will be an interesting post game presser.

    Fox is going to give us the Rose wankfest all season long..........:nono:

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    Our club did not want to fork out the $$$ for Mark Milligan. Offered him $75k less than what he was demanding (whilst JP was still in charge).

    True professional, true leader... who is the leader at WSW???

    Slight improvement on last season but another rubbish season ahead. 

    Lachie Rose for Macarthur looks better than all of our attackers.

     

     

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    Just now, SNS100 said:

    Our club did not want to fork out the $$$ for Mark Milligan. Offered him $75k less than what he was demanding (whilst JP was still in charge).

    True professional, true leader... who is the leader at WSW???

    Slight improvement on last season but another rubbish season ahead. 

    Lachie Rose for Macarthur looks better than all of out attackers.

     

     

    Nah, you’ve just been brainwashed by Speed and Harper. Rose was fine but nothing to write home about. 

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    4 minutes ago, Dugongs said:

    Nah, you’ve just been brainwashed by Speed and Harper. Rose was fine but nothing to write home about. 

    Rose is far too ugly to play professional football. Matt Simon's love child.

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    Well I would think we were pretty crap tbh

    Ibini, Troisi, Cox and Dorrans were very poor, I mean Cox looked a tad slimmer than last season. Troisi and Ibini just looked completely lost. 

    However, Russell, Mourdakoutas and Baccus were great tonight.

    And to be fair with MacArthur, they were stubborn in defence, and they defended very deep as well. They got lucky with a dubious free kick and scoring off it and it was undeserved win for them

    I am not sure if the boos after the game was justified but maybe it's a message they need to send to the club that this wasn't good enough.

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    I don’t want to be negative so early in the season, but being at the game was certainly reminiscent of a number of recent performances. As more knowledgeable pundits will be better placed to critique the various shortcomings in our formation and individual players, I would just say that we looked seriously “pre-season” tonight. Too many cheap turnovers, no cohesion in attack and our midfield defence was woeful.

    Hopefully we can start to gel in attack and Robinson can fill gaps in the January window. 
     

    Oh and that playing roster at Macarthur is certainly impressive. We’re they granted any exemptions to the cap?

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    2 minutes ago, SBW said:

    Well I would think we were pretty crap tbh

    Ibini, Troisi, Cox and Dorrans were very poor, I mean Cox looked a tad slimmer than last season. Troisi and Ibini just looked completely lost. 

    However, Russell, Mourdakoutas and Baccus were great tonight.

    And to be fair with MacArthur, they were stubborn in defence, and they defended very deep as well. They got lucky with a dubious free kick and scoring off it and it was undeserved win for them

    I am not sure if the boos after the game was justified but maybe it's a message they need to send to the club that this wasn't good enough.

    Yeah look I booed out of frustration. With the crap refereeing, VAR and our insipid team performance. I don’t begrudge them the win coz we were pretty ordinary but why do we so constantly get screwed over by the officiating???

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    Sucks we lost, but definitely don’t think it was as bad as people in here think. Federici was unreal and the Bulls are going to be pretty solid this year, and they definitely didn’t outplay us.

    Good - Russell, Gordon, Tass, Baccus

    Meh - Margush, McGowan, Dorrans, Ibini, Troisi

    Bad - Georgevski, Cox

    As I said in the game thread, the formation just doesn’t work at all and whilst Cox should have done better on occasions for sure, 90% of the time he was getting the ball played into him with a 6’6 center back all over him.

    Using practically the same players, with Mueller in for DG and playing a 4-3-3 with Ibini and Mueller up with Cox, and Troisi in behind HAS to be better.

    But if we persist with this 5 at the back rubbish I can’t see how we get the best out of the attackers.

     

     

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    Why are people saying Federici was so good we gave next to nothing to do, or shot straight at him 


    Ziggy Gordan was ace and far and away our best player, which as well has he played says a lot about our performance 

    At least Baccus try’s to turn and go forward, the constant pissing abo at the back and playing ourselves into trouble drives me nuts

    Dorrans was dreadful

    lets not whine about Var and referees we got what we deserved we were second to every ball, and largely clueless 

    Can anybody tell me what Yeboah was trying to do with that chance toward the end? He seemed like he had forgotten what he was supposed to be doing 

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    Not much that was encouraging, but I agree with those who rightly point out it’s only the first game.

    On the plus side I thought we were better defensively. McGowan played pretty well as did Tass. Tate was great and Ziggy is a very handy pick up.

    I thought Baccus had a pretty good game, but Dorrans is no Schwegler. Troisi was ok without cutting up their defence.

    Cox may end up rivalling the Italian git as our least effective forward and Ibini just proved how much we miss Duke.

    But boys and girls wasn’t it great to be back at the football....

     

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    Federici is going to win them a handful of points (including at least 2 today).

    Ibini got corked in the 1st half so maybe that's why he was not moving freely. The issue is why was he kept on for so long.

    Formation was wrong and if starting with Muller on the bench was tactical .....well it didn't work.

     

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    7 minutes ago, Pup55 said:

    Sucks we lost, but definitely don’t think it was as bad as people in here think. Federici was unreal and the Bulls are going to be pretty solid this year, and they definitely didn’t outplay us.

    Good - Russell, Gordon, Tass, Baccus, Troisi

    Meh - Margush, McGowan, Dorrans, Ibini

    Bad - Georgevski, Cox

    As I said in the game thread, the formation just doesn’t work at all and whilst Cox should have done better on occasions for sure, 90% of the time he was getting the ball played into him with a 6’6 center back all over him.

    Using practically the same players, with Mueller in for DG and playing a 4-3-3 with Ibini and Mueller up with Cox, and Troisi in behind HAS to be better.

    But if we persist with this 5 at the back rubbish I can’t see how we get the best out of the attackers.

     

     

    Agree on the Cox thing we seemed to hit long balls to him when the defender had about 2 foot on him. Yet we barely used Ibini who at least has some size 

    I’d put dorrans in the bad, he gave the ball away well to much 

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    I'm trying to keep my head up but losing to a new A-league squad really hurts. What hurts more is their winning goal was from a lucky deflection. Once the VAR overturned the penalty I knew it was going to be a long night for the Wanderers.

    Plus, a friend of mine who barely watch the A-league before until the Macarthur Bulls were introduced into the A-League was hounding me all night about. He kept asking me "Is <insert bulls player name here> a good player?, where did he play before joining the bulls?"

    He is also on the Rose wank-a-thon only because of his interview during the match and thought was a "nice bloke". Plus, he couldn't stop praising Federici all night. I said to him "If Federici gets injured, the bulls are screwed..."

    Note to self, that'll be the first and last game I'll ever watch with him, so frustrating. LOL

    Anyway here's my thoughts...

    Russell, Massdoukoutas and Baccus have improved and goes to show that the Academy does work and I look forward to seeing what the club brings in the future. The more players that come from the Academy, get promoted into the senior squad and show that they are truly an A-league player, the more happier I'll be.

    The penalty from Massdoukoutas on Susaeta was a bit of a joke so I hope Massdoukoutas doesn't think he let the team down as the Bulls did score from that free kick. They were just so lucky it came from a deflection otherwise this would of been a goalless draw.

    Gordon has shown signing him was a great choice. Personally, they really need to improve on this back 5 formation that Robbo wants to stick with otherwise they'll need to adjust to a back 4 immediately (with Russell, Gordon, Massdoukoutas and Georgievski as my choices).

    Dorrans, Troisi and Ibini hasn't shown that they are good signings (so far) and I hope this will change eventually later on this season. Ibini was unfortunate enough that his attempt at goal went over the bar (and also, he looked injured, I hope not). I know he can score from both feet but he is more dominant on his left foot. 

    Muller really helped the squad's motivation when he came on the field and I feel Robinson really needs to have him on the field for the whole 90 minutes. I still think he should of been named then captain (or even vice captain for that matter). If Robinson sticks with having him on the bench, I feel it'll be terrible and 

    I feel Margush did OK tonight but he'll need to improve. As I said before, they scored off a lucky deflection.

    Someone else mentioned about what hurt the squad is the fact that Robinson used majority of the scholarship/academy players throughout the pre-season thus meaning the normal senior squad players really didn't get enough pre-season matches. I agree with this and that's what could of effected the squad tonight going into this match. 

    As I said in the prediction thread, I feel the squad is going to have a slow start but once Robbo gets the players to feel more comfortable in the positions he requires them to play, I'm hoping we'll see a big improvement. 

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    Disappointing again.

    Didn't think we were terrible, but there are lots of areas to improve.

    Gordon looks ace, was extremely impressed by him tonight, gave more than 100% the whole 90 minutes.

    Mcgowan actually looked like he knew how to defend for once.

    Tass and Russel, good as usual. Thomas Aquilina looks pretty good as well, wonder if he can replace Georgevski.

    Biggest disappointment from me was Graham Dorrans. He was pathetic, lost the ball in really bad positions, don't know what he was doing but looked like he tried to rainbow flick it over a player and totally stuffed it up. Hopefully he will significantly improve cause he was honestly really bad.

    While Ibini looked slow and off the pace, there were small flashed of brilliance in the first half. Should he get fully fit he looks like he will be good for us.

    Troisi created some good chances but his passing overall wasn't great, I can only see him improving however.

    Baccus looked really good but this guy always gives away a silly foul that overshadows his performance. Some of his turns and passes were incredible, but because he fouled Holman, I feel thats all his performance will be remembered for.

    Cox is hopeless, slow as, hold up play was weak, can't find the corners and doesn't seem like the smart player we saw at times last season. 

    Margush was ok, goal was most definitely not his fault, made some good saves but his distribution is suspect, some horribly misplaced passes. Looks to come off his line reasonably well unlike Vedran.

    Only substitutes that looked good were Muller and Aquilina. Yeboah is still sh*t, his inability to control that ball that was 6 yards out from a cutback was absolutely pathetic.

    Fair play to Macarthur, I knew they'd be good, think we could've beaten them had Federici not played, but they look solid. Lachlan Rose is a pest, defence looked solid, Milligan was ok. Thought their striker, Derbyshire was pretty crap, which is similar to what I saw of him in pre-season. Benat and Susueta definitely turned it up a notch when they came on.

    Not gonna judge Carl Robinson on 1 game, think we showed promise but am not sure if he can pull all the strings together. The striker issue seems like a big one, and our change creation and ball retention/possession can improve significantly.

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    Bulls are going to be a top 4 side, they controlled the midfield well and we struggled to move the ball around in the middle of the Park.  Dorrans needs to find his feet, Troisi was in control but couldn't do everything himself. The last 5 mins of the first half we were pushing fwd and hungry with Baccus teaming up with Troisi.

    Federici saved a couple of good shots to keep us from scoring. Ibini seemed slow and was to easily pushed off the ball, when Muller came on he had a much bigger impact and i see him starting next match. Yeboah was wasteful as always and too fast for his own good. We played well but Macarthur were just too strong over the park for us. Cox is basically a goal poacher, struggles to dribble or run at speed, we will miss Duke this season and the new boys need to step it up.

    The cowbells are annoying but it beats not having any atmosphere at all. Some of the cowbell supporters were in the RBB? whats the go with that? 

    I'm not sure with covid restrictions where wsw fans can travel to the Macarthur home match but i don't think they will have much fans.

     

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    Don't get all the negativity around Dorrans. Thought he did well. Especially when you consider he only got out of a months worth of quarantine 5 mins ago after testing positive. 

    Overall I think we look better than last year and will only improve. 

    Bit of a worry up top but Bernie looked like a player who has refused to train for 6 weeks. He will come good. 

    Too early to start removing your shoelaces ladies and gents. We will be ok.

     

    Aquilina looked a player too.

    Glass half full over here.

    You guys should be better at losing by now...what with all the practice we have had.

     

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    Well my thoughts are very simple strengthen the midfield from Troisi back to the DMs was the size of a cowpaddock and we could not find a link to the forwards coming out of defense, similar problem as last year

    I thought Margush handle himself well and looks looks like he could hold down that position 

    As for the rest I will wait a few more games to pass judgment, hopefully we will see more of the coaches influence  , Dorrans is a far better player than we seen tonight.

    we just need another strong midfielder Amini if he is not injured or Ugarkovic 

     

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