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    An abysmal second half from the Wanderers gifted Sydney FC a 3-0 win and a place in the FFA Cup final tonight in Penrith.

    The Wanderers should have opened the scoring just 7 minutes in, Riera cut through in on goal 1v1, but elected to try a cutback across the 6 yard box for Roly Bonevacia. Perhaps the left winger didn't expect the striker to shoot so he was caught a little on his heels, and it allowed a defender to come back and block the ball. Shortly after there was a shout for a Sydney FC penalty with Keanu Baccus sticking a bit of his leg out, it would have soft and the referee decided to let play continue.

    Andrew Redmayne kept the scores level with a strong save in the 20th. The Wanderers piled on the pressure, a corner fell to the feet of Captain Brendan Hamill and he blasted a shot at the near post that Redmayne palmed away. 10 minutes later Riera just couldn't touch a cross by Roly Bonevacia, and just before the break Sotirio had a shot spilled by Redmayne but no-no from the home side could follow up. The two teams went into the half level, with the Wanderers slightly on top in terms of chances but lacking a cutting edge in front of goal.

    The second half was a disaster for the Wanderers as they fell behind immediately and totally lost control of the game. Raul Llorente misjudged a defensive header, giving it to Sydney FC in a dangerous position, De Jong found Trent Buhagiar and he blew past Elrich with pace and tapped it around the onrushing Nizic.

    The game should have been level in the 63rd minute. Josh Risdon was clear through on goal, with no-one but the keeper to beat and sent his shot straight at Andrew Redmayne. It was a dismal finish from a national team player, a shot that was harder to miss than score. It was the last major action for the Wanderers and not long after they were two down.

    As is an A-League referee's want, they favoured Sydney FC all night and a dodgy foul outside the area was the catalyst for Sydney FC's second goal. De Jong stepped up and curled his strike to the opposite corner from Nizic and the keeper's despairingly slow dive was too late to even get a touch. A 74th minute penalty was the sealer, Tarek Elrich, who was deployed in central defence due to a raft of injuries to the club's nominal central defenders tapped Le Fondre on the knee and the striker went down like a sack of potatoes. Having won the penalty he stepped up and fired a rocket into the top of the goal for 3-0.

    The match petered to it's inevitable conclusion as the Wanderers could barely manage a shot on target let alone a goal, and in fact Sydney FC had the best chances to extend their lead. For all the pre-match talk from Hamill questioning if Sydney FC had improved, it was the visiting side who took their chances and kept a clean sheet. The Babbel era has kicked off with a succession of injuries and a lack of composure up front, and there is not a lot of time left before two tough away trips to Perth & Sydney to start the A-League season.

    Adelaide United were drawn as the hosts, and will want to take revenge for their FFA Cup final defeat in Sydney last year.


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    The result is a disaster for us because the performance was good, even in the second half,” he said.

    “If you watched the three goals, the first goal was a mistake from us, an easy mistake that cannot happen at this level. The second goal you have to accept this, a top free kick, the penalty, to be fair for me wasn’t a penalty.

    I am on holidays didn’t see the game but from what I read here and what’sApp from Mates the second half wasn’t good so either Babel is slight confused, ignorant and dishonest with the media. 

    The reality is they scored 3 and we scored zero his only correct statement is that is was a disaster 

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    7 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said:

    The result is a disaster for us because the performance was good, even in the second half,” he said.

    “If you watched the three goals, the first goal was a mistake from us, an easy mistake that cannot happen at this level. The second goal you have to accept this, a top free kick, the penalty, to be fair for me wasn’t a penalty.

    I am on holidays didn’t see the game but from what I read here and what’sApp from Mates the second half wasn’t good so either Babel is slight confused, ignorant and dishonest with the media. 

    The reality is they scored 3 and we scored zero his only correct statement is that is was a disaster 

    His assessment of the goals is correct, a gift, a cracker and a dive, but the performance fell to bits after the first went in and never recovered

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    14 minutes ago, GunnerWanderer said:

    The result is a disaster for us because the performance was good, even in the second half,” he said.

    “If you watched the three goals, the first goal was a mistake from us, an easy mistake that cannot happen at this level. The second goal you have to accept this, a top free kick, the penalty, to be fair for me wasn’t a penalty.

    I am on holidays didn’t see the game but from what I read here and what’sApp from Mates the second half wasn’t good so either Babel is slight confused, ignorant and dishonest with the media. 

    The reality is they scored 3 and we scored zero his only correct statement is that is was a disaster 

     

    I reckon he's being dishonest with the media.  I'd be surprised if he chastised his players in public. However, behind closed doors, he'd be telling the players the honest truth. At least I'd hope so.

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    I don't see what he's said that's wrong there. He admitted the first goal was a mistake, and he's right in his descriptions about the other two goals as well. 

    In the whole interview he says that we were better in the first half, but also that if you don't take your chances then you will lose, both of which are true.

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    The difference is that they converted their chances and we didn't. 'Nearly scored' will not get us to the top of the table. We have to score in those situations 

    I don't know yet which it is, lack of talent or mental fitness as to why we're not scoring. Probably both. Mental fitness we can fix, lack of talent we can't unless we offload the dross.

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    God there are some drama queens amongst the supporters of this club. Take a chill pill people.  Yes we lost, it happens.  I love the calls for the Pollaks and La Roca's etc.  Jesus people we have moved on because the league has moved on.  We have two young DM and first half they played a cracker, stealing balls left right and center, FC having to go long to try and get through.  We should have been 2 up, that changes the game 1 up changes it as well.  That fact is it is still preseason.  

    I have no idea why our club breeds such drama queens in the fan base.  We are from Western Sydney I thought we were tougher than that

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    15 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

    God there are some drama queens amongst the supporters of this club. Take a chill pill people.  Yes we lost, it happens.  I love the calls for the Pollaks and La Roca's etc.  Jesus people we have moved on because the league has moved on.  We have two young DM and first half they played a cracker, stealing balls left right and center, FC having to go long to try and get through.  We should have been 2 up, that changes the game 1 up changes it as well.  That fact is it is still preseason.  

    I have no idea why our club breeds such drama queens in the fan base.  We are from Western Sydney I thought we were tougher than that

    Mate, I think people are just venting their frustration....lol

    Fun fact......... We have won one derby out of the last 14.....ONE......lol

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    28 minutes ago, Posthoc said:

    I have no idea why our club breeds such drama queens in the fan base.  We are from Western Sydney I thought we were tougher than that

    Les Murray nailed it.

     

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    Much of Sydney’s west may be blue collar but blue collar football is not something it will accept or even tolerate. It would be an insult.

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    8 hours ago, andypk said:

     

    I reckon he's being dishonest with the media.  I'd be surprised if he chastised his players in public. However, behind closed doors, he'd be telling the players the honest truth. At least I'd hope so.

    After a second half like that I hope he went the full Alex Ferguson.......I would be disappointed if there wasn't at least 1 tea cup smashed against a wall...

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    51 minutes ago, sonar said:

    Mate, I think people are just venting their frustration....lol

    Fun fact......... We have won one derby out of the last 14.....ONE......lol

    God, 1 out of 14...until you see it written like that! That is truly a grim statistic...

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    1 minute ago, Smoggy said:

    God, 1 out of 14...until you see it written like that! That is truly a grim statistic...

    It was courtesy of Simon Hill......lol

    It does illustrate your posts previously about fan fatigue though....and that stat bears it out.

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    6 minutes ago, sonar said:

    It was courtesy of Simon Hill......lol

    It does illustrate your posts previously about fan fatigue though....and that stat bears it out.

    I actually think the media want to see WSW much more competitive this year. It does nothing for the game, TV interest, fan attendance when it is so lopsided all the time. I notice Slats pre game did go for ESFC but wanted a close game and that seem to be what was wanted more than anything. I sensed frustration from the pundits that it was 3-0.

    ESFC don't have the fan numbers to hold up a reasonable attendance for all their bullshyte, it will take a return to competitive derby games to reignite interest and get people back in to it and through the turnstiles also.

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    okay then, game over we lost heavy sigh, what are the positives to take forward, because there always positives !

    i'll be there in three weeks expecting a massive upset, I believe goals will come, I believe we will come good on that night, I have faith in Riera is going take every chance that comes his way that night !

    Come on we are bottom of the wheel at 6 o'clock , the wheel turns for everyone, it's turning slowly at the moment but it is on the way up....think positive and positive things will happen.

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    1 hour ago, Smoggy said:

    I actually think the media want to see WSW much more competitive this year. It does nothing for the game, TV interest, fan attendance when it is so lopsided all the time. I notice Slats pre game did go for ESFC but wanted a close game and that seem to be what was wanted more than anything. I sensed frustration from the pundits that it was 3-0.

    ESFC don't have the fan numbers to hold up a reasonable attendance for all their bullshyte, it will take a return to competitive derby games to reignite interest and get people back in to it and through the turnstiles also.

    The nob head  slater didn’t seem to disappointed we lost, all of them banged on how well he penalty was taken and failed to question if it was a penalty in the first place 

     

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    1 hour ago, StringerBellend said:

    The nob head  slater didn’t seem to disappointed we lost, all of them banged on how well he penalty was taken and failed to question if it was a penalty in the first place 

     

    I wouldnt let Slater judge a kids art comp let alone a football game, him and that other sycophant Harper are so far up those eastern scum they make Ray Hadley look considered and thoughtful

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    Was going to stream the game but had dinner at a friends house and only remembered about the game at 10.30

    Decided to check the score - was initially shocked, because I thought and hoped it would be close. Then, I remembered that we’ve sucked for several seasons now and I was like “Ah that explains it”

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    I already posted on the Babbel coach thread but I will post here too. Babbel must figure out the CB and DM position. Controlled the first half because we were playing around the Sydney midfield and made them run and make mistakes. 2nd half they launched long and it became a battle of 50/50s that we lost. Grozos is very good technically but needs to read the game better in that position which I understand because he is more of an attacking Midfielder, Baccus Jr on the other hand I mean geez he has the ability he reads the game well however whenever things go wrong for him he gets too aggro and starts to make mistakes especially with his tackling and passing. They both need experience next to them but that DM position is currently our Achilles heel. 

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    5 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    Its just fatigue setting in. We have had 3 hard going seasons now. Everyone is fed up with SoP, attendance numbers down, fans hassled in the stands and outside the stadiums as well as in the media, we have not improved the quality of the squad and have bought poorly compared to our rivals, the quality and entertainment just hasn't been there and we have been running on blind loyalty and the new stadium on the horizon dregs for too long. Added to that we have been turned over by our city rivals numerous times to be forgiven easily. What made WSW was the togetherness and fight we showed on the pitch and that linked in with the stands, we lost that a while back and the WSW teams of the last few years have lost that 'Western Sydney tough fighting spirit' rather than the fans. We are still hanging in there, we need to see the club and team fight back and give us something to work with.

    The new stadium is well on its way thank god...it has kept me going lol

    If we get turned over again at the SCG later this month (a real possibility lets face it)  it will probably turn nasty again. We have a hard start and don't have a proper home game for ages ffs, we are up against it for sure.

    great post. 100% this.

    our derby isn't supposed to be like espanyol vs barca or torino vs juve - we are meant to be equals so given how meekly and embarassingly we have been toweled up the past few seasons means very few supporters  are going too be able to just go 'oh well we played well in the first half at least'.

    My thinking is that you can put up with either terrible performances on the field OR shabby treatment from your club/security etc but not many fans can survive both.

    I can understand anyone being down about this result even though at the end of the day it's a glorified preseason game.

     

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    15 hours ago, andypk said:

     

    I reckon he's being dishonest with the media.  I'd be surprised if he chastised his players in public. However, behind closed doors, he'd be telling the players the honest truth. At least I'd hope so.

    All coaches should be dishonest with the media to some extent. 

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    32 minutes ago, FCWanderers said:

    http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/western-sydney-wanderers-lacked-belief-against-sydney-fc/1til8dww237ev166z5k8g5ivaj

    Interesting comments from the WSW coach Markus Babbel about the teams mentality. I tend to agree that the heads seem to drop after the first goal and especially after the second goal, against Sydney FC.

    The record speaks for itself doesn't it and "we dominated but they had 2 chances and scored" is becoming a cliche  from Wanderers fans for the last 4 years

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    2 hours ago, FCWanderers said:

    http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/western-sydney-wanderers-lacked-belief-against-sydney-fc/1til8dww237ev166z5k8g5ivaj

    Interesting comments from the WSW coach Markus Babbel about the teams mentality. I tend to agree that the heads seem to drop after the first goal and especially after the second goal, against Sydney FC.

    God i hate it when EmMac is right all the ******* time  :rolleyes::P

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