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    By mack

    A dismal performance by the Western Sydney Wanderers has seen them lose 2-0 to Melbourne City tonight.

    Melbourne City took the game with a blistering 2 minutes, taking advantage of abysmal defence from Western Sydney. The first goal coming as a result of a long throw-in well into the City half, being launched over the top of a completely disjointed Wanderers defence, Raul Llorente beaten for pace by Lachie Wales, and no cover defence in sight, the flyer burst into the penalty area to beat Vedran Janjetovic who as usual, dived before the shot was taken and saw it sail through the path he vacated.

    The second came very soon after, Riley McGreen turned Llorente and burned him for pace, surging into the penalty area, drawing a defender then laying off the ball to fullback Ritchie De Laet who unerringly found the bottom corner of the goal.

    Western Sydney had their usual handful of chances that they completely wasted, then the game turned on 55 minutes. Rostyn Griffiths, who had until then run the midfield for Melbourne City, stupidly lunged out at a rolling ball that Alexander Baumjohann was far closer to. He was shown his second yellow and sent off with the inevitably red card.

    With an anxious and at times angry crowd waited with baited breath for the Wanderers to land a blow on the side down to 10 men, unfortunately Eugene Galekovic stood in front of the goal, blocked shot after shot, including a top drawer save from a Baumjohann blast that viewers would have expected to bulge the back of the net.

    The Wanderers pressure was rewarded with a penalty in the 85th minute, as Nathaniel Atkinson was judged to have hand-balled on a cross into the box, and Oriol Riera stepped up. With the chance to pull a goal back and give them hope in the dying embers of the game, the out of form striker fired low to his left, a poor penalty that Eugene waited for and pounced upon, turning it wide.

    It was the cherry on top of one of the worst performances in the history of the Wanderers, and will leave the fans wondering how on earth will Markus Babbel turn it around. Many will no doubt consider it an impossibility until the majority of the playing roster is cut from the club.

    The Wanderers face Melbourne Victory next Saturday, the 5th of January, kickoff at 7:50pm at the Sydney Olympic Stadium.

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    Bellby

    Unpopular view but I just don’t know if you can play Roly, Riera & ABJ together (at the moment). All are too static. When we made our subs we finally had a bit of movement between & behind the lines which opened up the field & gave them both a bit of space. 

    Not a fan of MB, sat on his hands again. Deserves more time but questions need to be asked eventually. Picks the same 11 every week, rotates a couple on/off the bench & that’s it. 

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    GD07

    I like Babbel, I’d be fine with him continuing as our manager.....but he needs to show us something. We know his squad is limited but we still can’t see any semblance of a plan, a style/ pattern of play, some proactive changes/adjustments  

    At the moment it’s hard to see what they do all week. We are all over the shop. 

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    Neverbloom
    1 hour ago, Unlimited said:

    Just got back from holiday looks like I didn’t miss much 

    I’ll see y’all on Saturday then?

    with how the club is treating the rbb you might not see anyone Saturday, i am already semi protesting by not giving a **** and missing half matches anyways :P 

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    Zakman
    50 minutes ago, tranquilo said:

    Club needs to take responsibility just like not to long ago when they held crisis meetings on how we were loosing major sponsors due to crowd behaviour. The results over the last few seasons and heavy handed security/police measures time after time both are results in having more disgruntled fans who have stopped showing up to matches and many have stopped even watching us play.

    Club/suits needs to be held liable as relying on a nice new shiny stadium to bring back the fans and with the wave of a magical wand will not fix a problem that seems to be getting worse and worse. Members/fans are allowed to voice their opinion whether club likes it or not. It's time those of us still left to keep the pressure up and show them that wsw is a big club with many passionate supporters but we are not dumb westies and we know when we are being taken for a ride.

    Members/fans spend hard earned money in memberships/merchandise and more to support the wsw and always will but in the world of football results matter and for us westies playing with pride and your heart on your sleeve with passion is what we want from our team.

    End of the day its time for the club to pull their finger out of their asshole and be bold and make some desperate changes if not what was once the mighty wsw will be no longer able to return to its once was fortress.

    Maybe the introduction of south west sydney will be a hidden gem for the club as we were to get ESFC back into gear after letting their foot of the pedal for way to long.

    Happy new 2019!

    Well said!! It terms of player recruitment and the general treatment of fans this last 3 seasons, it is like the board has put the club in a holding pattern for the supposedly "glorious" return to Parramatta. The actions of the club both on and off the field have shown absolute disregard for the fans who have attended and have stuck by the team during this period.

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    scarcev
    8 hours ago, Taurus said:

    I'm flabbergasted that he's not required / encouraged to wear WSW attire, whilst on the sidelines in our games. 

    If it's good enough for Klopp & Guardiola it's good enough for MB

    Its Jack Black the sponsors gear he is wearing and lets be honest if we need him to wear that to keep sponsors on board the good luck to him, the way we are playing it is hardly on field performances which are going to attract sponsors is it? 

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    sonar

    Some stark numbers from our time away from Parra.........Played/Won/Drawn/Losses

    Total ANZ/Spotless       30      9       11      10             
    Pirtek Stadium              55      26     14      15              

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    Neverbloom
    13 minutes ago, Erebus said:

    Ive heard the bans are Olympic Park Precinct bans, much like the one the capo got for swearing.

    SOP can EAD with their hypocrisy and inconsistent management between sports.

    if they are bans just for matches at Olympic park they are really not missing that much tbh

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    Bellby
    36 minutes ago, sonar said:

    Some stark numbers from our time away from Parra.........Played/Won/Drawn/Losses

    Total ANZ/Spotless       30      9       11      10             
    Pirtek Stadium              55      26     14      15              

    This has probably been argued about at length (& most might not agree), but I never understood the decision to move to spotless, took away the atmosphere (& our identity) which no doubt is a major driving factor for the players & our major strength. Penny Park with occasional games at Campbelltown etc would of been the way I would of went.

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    Neverbloom
    9 minutes ago, Bellby said:

    This has probably been argued about at length (& most might not agree), but I never understood the decision to move to spotless, took away the atmosphere (& our identity) which no doubt is a major driving factor for the players & our major strength. Penny Park with occasional games at Campbelltown etc would of been the way I would of went.

    the problem with penrith and campbelltown is it takes too long for some people to get to matches, for me campbelltown would take longer than it would to go to a sydney fc match and getting home just wouldnt happen, that said olympic park is just terrible

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    Swanderer

    Fairly despondent last night. Its already been said but I couldn't believe that no subs were made till late. You could see little impact was being made but no reaction.... I'm tired of watching Riera coast out front, tired of the predictable from the keeper,  tired of  to holding onto possession till its too late .......

    Moan over........... I hope   I will feel better

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    sonar
    37 minutes ago, Bellby said:

    This has probably been argued about at length (& most might not agree), but I never understood the decision to move to spotless, took away the atmosphere (& our identity) which no doubt is a major driving factor for the players & our major strength. Penny Park with occasional games at Campbelltown etc would of been the way I would of went.

    A lot of fans went with SOP and now regret.It is what is is though,can't go back and change. Not long before we will be rid of it. Thank ****...lol

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    Zakman
    4 minutes ago, sonar said:

    A lot of fans went with SOP and now regret.It is what is is though,can't go back and change. Not long before we will be rid of it. Thank ****...lol

    Think of SOP as the Brexit of the A League ;)

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    wendybr
    2 hours ago, GD07 said:

    I like Babbel, I’d be fine with him continuing as our manager.....

     

    2 hours ago, GD07 said:

    but he needs to show us something. We know his squad is limited but we still can’t see any semblance of a plan, a style/ pattern of play, some proactive changes/adjustments  

    At the moment it’s hard to see what they do all week. We are all over the shop. 

    I kinda hate myself for asking...I really do.

    Because I've always hated the revolving door approach to our coaches (once Popa's successes declined) and more specifically, I've hated that approach towards players at our club (unfathomable with regard to a dozen or so players we showed the door, or didn't value highly enough to retain, but who are still playing successfully across the A League :()

    I have never joined a Popa out! Gombau out! call. I don't see much evidence of, and wouldn't join a Babble out team.....just yet. I don't like that sort of approach, and I don't think it helps.

    But I'm wondering how you reconcile the first part of your post, with the second.

    As I said, I don't like asking...but I'm curious. Is there nothing a good coach can do with a mediocre team...a team which looks totally dispirited from the start of every game...and which looks desperate for the final whistle (understandably so) by the end?

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    Sithslayer1991

    In all honesty we were never gonna dominate possession not with the team we have. We did ok for the first 35 mins defensively restricting them to shots outside the box, transition was ok especially on he left side. But then we fell asleep seriously City had nothing until we shut off for those 2 goals which are park Football mistakes not good enough.

    Babbel Should have taken Elrich off that 2nd half was crap from him  with his experience expect a lot more from him. It started with one mistake and a few members were letting him know about it and instead of concentrating on the game he decides to mouth off at the crowd and make a chain of mistakes thereafter. City just targeted him after that and they got lot of joy on the right side. 

    Also again opposition goes down to 10 men and yet its more likely the opposition will score than us. It took until we had Majok and Fitzy on the field to really test Galekovic that is not good enough.

     

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    wendybr
    2 minutes ago, beatsurrender said:

    On a positive note Majok did ok when he came on. Which is surprising considering he had the touch of a 3-legged donkey wearing clogs in his last outing. Maybe it was purely nerves.

    Give the lad a start against the Mexicans 

    I agree - but chose the laughing emoji rather than the "Like" to indicate that your comparison conjured up an hilarious image!  :good:

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    sonar
    31 minutes ago, wendybr said:

     

    I kinda hate myself for asking...I really do.

    Because I've always hated the revolving door approach to our coaches (once Popa's successes declined) and more specifically, I've hated that approach towards players at our club (unfathomable with regard to a dozen or so players we showed the door, or didn't value highly enough to retain, but who are still playing successfully across the A League :()

    I have never joined a Popa out! Gombau out! call. I don't see much evidence of, and wouldn't join a Babble out team.....just yet. I don't like that sort of approach, and I don't think it helps.

    But I'm wondering how you reconcile the first part of your post, with the second.

    As I said, I don't like asking...but I'm curious. Is there nothing a good coach can do with a mediocre team...a team which looks totally dispirited from the start of every game...and which looks desperate for the final whistle (understandably so) by the end?

    Our first couple of seasons were the benchmark for the club in what was expected from the playing group. They put in,they never gave up. Whether that was the attitude of the players or motivation of the coach can be debated ad nauseum.

    Season 3 was a write off but people forgive/forgave the clube due to ACL win...fair enough.

    When Popa gutted the Adelaide Gf losing side we have not recovered.The replacements were mediocre as were the results.....6th.

    Nothing has changed result wise since.I've always believed and maintained it is the players who are mainly responsible for what happens on the field. The coach is the guide. Popa was lucky in his last season just to make the 6 with his squad. Gumby lost the players apparently and  failed....7th......... and Babbel is not looking too flash at the moment. I like Babbel as a coach but the results should be starting to show. The fans want to see season one and two attitudes...They aren't Hence the fan frustration.

     

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    matty
    3 hours ago, tranquilo said:

    Club needs to take responsibility just like not to long ago when they held crisis meetings on how we were loosing major sponsors due to crowd behaviour. The results over the last few seasons and heavy handed security/police measures time after time both are results in having more disgruntled fans who have stopped showing up to matches and many have stopped even watching us play.

    Club/suits needs to be held liable as relying on a nice new shiny stadium to bring back the fans and with the wave of a magical wand will not fix a problem that seems to be getting worse and worse. Members/fans are allowed to voice their opinion whether club likes it or not. It's time those of us still left to keep the pressure up and show them that wsw is a big club with many passionate supporters but we are not dumb westies and we know when we are being taken for a ride.

    Members/fans spend hard earned money in memberships/merchandise and more to support the wsw and always will but in the world of football results matter and for us westies playing with pride and your heart on your sleeve with passion is what we want from our team.

    End of the day its time for the club to pull their finger out of their asshole and be bold and make some desperate changes if not what was once the mighty wsw will be no longer able to return to its once was fortress.

    Maybe the introduction of south west sydney will be a hidden gem for the club as we were to get ESFC back into gear after letting their foot of the pedal for way to long.

    Happy new 2019!

    Best change that can be made is the replacement of Tsatsimas to be honest

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    wendybr
    2 minutes ago, sonar said:

    Our first couple of seasons were the becnhmark for the club in what was expected from the playing group. They put in, they never gave up. Whether that was the attitude of the players or motivation of the coach can be debated ad nauseum.
     

    To me - it was more because of what was happening in the stands around the players....than anything else. We were an irresistible force back then. But of course, the manager's guidance and belief, and the players' never-say-die approach was crucial too.

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    I've always believed and maintained it is the players who are mainly responsible for what happens on the field. The coach is the guide. Popa was lucky in his last season just to make the 6 with his squad. Gumby lost the players apparently and  failed....7th......... and Babbel is not looking too flash at the moment. I like Babbel as a coach but the results should be starting to show. They aren't Hence the fan frustration.

     

    The coach, and I guess (under different circumstances to ours) the long term players, as leaders within a team, are responsible for the self belief within a successful team - and for that all-important team psychology/mentality.

    THAT seems to be what is lacking. There is no one as a leader within the playing group ....as a guide.

    And Babble is surely just starting to get a feel for the A League. Or not. 

     

    PS I'm just fishing around for hope here....but I don't know where it's going to come from this season.

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