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    VAR & FFA Must Go After Derby Disgrace


    mack

    Those in charge of Football Federation Australia must follow the VAR out the door after another display of the VAR and Australia's inept referees cheating the Wanderers, snuffing out a potential comeback in what should have been a classic Sydney Derby.

    Sydney FC scored an early goal just 4 minutes into the match. Adam Le Fondre standing in an offside position at a free kick, hung around after a half-clearance, the ball fell to him after a shot back in. Vedran Janjetovic smothered his initial shot but another piece of luck had him smack the rebound into an empty net. Replays showed that not only was Le Fondre offside at the free kick (but according to the VAR, somehow not interfering with play), but that Mahazi had been interfered with by an offside Brosque. The score was 1-0, and the VAR did nothing.

    After the break the Wanderers were two behind having gifted their opponents a golden chance to score. On the edge of their own area, Sotirio played a hospital ball to Josh Risdon, and instead of trying to clear, he played a sideways pass intended for Mahazi that was intercepted by Ninkovic, and he pounced to play through Brosque and his first time strike beat Janjetovic at the far post.

    Despite going two behind, the Wanderers did show some of the vaunted mentality Markus Babbel has been trying to instill in his charges, but when they finally converted one of their chances to score, it was cruelly and idiotically over-turned by the inept Chris Beath with an assist from the VAR. Baumjohann and Risdon worked down the right flank, the Risdon cross made it's way to the other end of the area where Roly Bonevacia smashed an 18 yard first time rocket past Andrew Redmayne.

    With no real protests from the home side, the VAR intervened to take away the goal. Chris Beath decided that Michael Zullo had been fouled by Jaushua Sotirio in the lead up to the cross. While Sotirio was in an offside position, Zullo's choice to dive into Sotirio while meters away from the ball was rewarded with Beath over-turning the decision by declaring Sotirio had fouled the SFC defender. in the aftermath Markus Babbel exploded at the fourth official, remonstrating to show his disgust at the call. He was awarded the A-League's first "Coach Red Card" by Beath. Babbel then walked around the long boundary of the Sydney Cricket Ground, a route that took him in front of the RBB who roared their approval.

    The failure was compounded in the post-game with Beath being interviewed and stating that the decision was actually offside, even though vision showed clearly that his decision was that it was a foul. Additionally, his interview stated that the linesman who was as close to Sotirio as Zullo was to Risdon, had completely missed the offside/foul and that the decision was solely made by VAR and himself.

    It was another display of referees who aren't good enough to be officiating our most important football games.

    Enough is enough.

    This is not just the VAR. Although it needs to be cancelled immediately. The VAR failed from the moment it was introduced. Bad decisions have been made since Wellington Phoenix were robbed against Sydney FC in Round 26 in 2016/17. Perth Glory were robbed in the Semi-Final in that season. The technology failed Newcastle Jets in the Grand Final last. It failed to detect Bruno Fornaroli diving in the recent Melbourne Derby. It tonight secured another game for Sydney FC. Offsides are a lottery. Tonight WSW have a goal taken away for offside. Last year Adelaide when playing against us had a clear offside goal investigated by the VAR be allowed to stand.

    The Wanderers were cruelled against Perth Glory when sideline cameras failed to be in the right decision for an obvious offside, leading to a red card against us. It ignores certain laws like encroachment at penalties, and offsides against players standing offside from free kicks. When looking at holding in the penalty area from set pieces the VAR is seemingly over intended to confirm whatever decision was made on the field. When a decision isn't made on the pitch by the referee, the basic law against holding is ignored by the VAR. The level of intervention around forceful tackles once saw the Mariners reduced by two players from VAR decisions, while other tackles that could break legs are ignored in other games.

    This is the result of a long held refusal by the FFA to enforce basic standards of officiating skill. We have seen officials give baffling offsides against players standing behind the ball being played. We have seen offsides given from a throw in. There is zero consistency in the application of offside. There is zero consistency in the application of handball. Certain teams received baffling leniency when playing tactics that deliberately disrupt their opposition with professional fouls in the midfield.

    The time for incremental change is over.

    Now that the FFA Governance saga is over, I call on whoever makes up the new FFA Board to immediately sack FFA Chief Executive David Gallop, Head of the A-League Greg O'Rourke, FFA Referees boss Ben Wilson, and A-League referees Chris Beath, Jarred Gillett, Kurt Ams, Peter Green and Shaun Evans. The FFA/A-League positions must be filled with people passionate about football. The VAR must be immediately cancelled and never return to Australian football.

    Get in touch with the football associations in German, England, Japan and Holland. Ask for the phone numbers of some consistent referees, who might be inclined to spend 6 months in the Australian summer. Bring them over. 

    The current people in charge of Football Federation Australia have lost the trust of the football community. 

    The new FFA Board must take the chance to rebuild the foundation of our sport in a positive, intelligent matter to take the sport forward once again. We risk turning the A-League into a joke, and having it be abandoned to the ruin of all the good work done by the players, clubs and supporters up to now. If the FFA fail to rectify the situation, a repeat of the ban list fan boycott is on the cards, and was called for by Mark Bosnich in the Fox Sports post-game show. I would wholeheartedly approve of that action.

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    3 minutes ago, btron3000 said:

    What are your thoughts on Mark Schwarzer?

    I like him too. But let’s save those discussion for the trips to Gosford and Newcastle. I’m sure LuisEnrique would prefer it that way 

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    2 minutes ago, pseudonym said:

    I'm not angry just disappointed 

    Obviously we need to work on defence given how the two "accepted" goals scored

    Watching the game at the SCG, it was so deflating  to see Roly take his chance and celebrate with the rest of the RBB only for the ref to stare a computer for a couple of minutes and take away the goal

    On the bright side, Ziegler should be back for big games coming up. And when his citizenship comes through, just maybe Lederer will let Babbel sign Kirkoff.

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    1 minute ago, JustWandering said:

    I think you should take a look at all the angles. If Baumjohann was tripped you could argue that it was outside the box, but it was the Sydney defender's hip 2 steps into the box that fell Baumjohann.

    Regardless def foul but geez Chris Beathe really knows how to stick it to a team

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    1 minute ago, Sithslayer1991 said:

    Ok take out Var c*** out and the players had a terrible game with mistakes. Mahazi left Le Fondre onside, 2nd goal 2 unnecessary fouls from Roly for the freekick and defence not clearing the ball out. 

    Again same story we had chances in the 1st half to be level at least

    1st goal - Poor clearance, someone should be man marking Le Fondre but they didn't, Vedran should have done better with the save.

    2nd goal - Again, we didnt clear the ball, we were just passing the ball around at the back and we pass it back to Ninkovic and Brosque had no one near him.

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    This is it for me. I will continue going to the home games but will not spend another $1 on away games .....not until The VAR is gone. 

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    ^ I doubt it. They will never acknowledge that the FFA is biased in their favour, they will never accept that the referees are biased in their favour and will never accept that the VAR got it wrong. SFC are FFA owned, and their fans are FFA bootlickers.

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    As disgraceful as the refereeing was, we can’t lose sight of the fact we were bang average for the majority of that match. 

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    Just now, GD07 said:

    As disgraceful as the refereeing was, we can’t lose sight of the fact we were bang average for the majority of that match. 

    Yep, pretty much average, which is what you get with a bang average squad lacking real quality in key areas...I mean at the start of the game looking at the team sheets on the big screen lol Regardless who the gaffer is this squad is a 5th to 7th placed one at best...we know that. Ok when Zeigler comes back that will improve us...but far from enough.

     

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    i am with the boycott, mostly because i have zero passion for the wanderers and cant be bothered going to matches but this is a good excuse :P

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    7 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    I wasn't so ******* elusive when that VAR decision came through...:xmad: The women sat next to me looked quite horrified :D

    Ohhhh OK!

    So we need another bad VAR decision in Mudgee...and the person whose reaction is THE most horrifying will be you.

    Got it. :D

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    7 hours ago, Smoggy said:

    I am not in..will continue to go to all the games I can get to.... because even with the shyte I enjoy being at a game....it takes my mind off normal world stuff,...yes I get angry with the VAR..of course I do, it is a disaster for the ******* game here...but will keep on going...if I have to sit in a bay all of my own like the Parra Power days so be it :D

    Didn't say I was in, or out. But that I understand the sentiment

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    Smurfs celebrating that win like they earned it shows how pathetic they are. God I'm glad I can proudly say i never supported them before WSW.

    I think the Babbel incident is a turning point, we'll see more fire both next week and when he's back.

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    Comment posted in the Guardian: By a neutral supporter I believe.

    So the VAR was for obstruction and it’s given for offside that neither the Ref or linesman saw. Chris Beath spoke to the TV because he had f’d up. You don’t use the technology to effectly cheat . He is a graduate of the Scott Morrison School of BS. And it had to favor the FFA darlings Sydney who always seem to be protected petals. And as Bozza said if these deliberate mistakes keep being made the people will turn off the game.
    And Brosque is always up their backside to Get prefential treatment. How the heck did Grant stay on the field being on a yellow and sliding in for a late tackle.

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    Record under the cheat Beath in the HAL

    14 games

    2 wins (v CCM and v Smurfs@ANZ)

    6 draws

    6 draws.

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    whats the deal with vedran and the hole in the door? he was joking with fc players after the match did not seem in a volatile mood then gets back to the rooms and puts a hole in the door. 

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    I think positives Tongyik really stood out I loved his tackles, the best one was on Ninkovic where he timed it perfection 1st half. Baumjohann was also fantastic.

    Negatives of the game Reira had a bit of a stinker not sure what is going on there. Mahazi was a bit off pace. Clearing our lines which is what led to two goals. Moving the ball to slowly for a lot of the game but when we moved quickly we got opportunities. And not captilising on classic Redmayne mistake.... 

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    35 minutes ago, Ossified said:

    Comment posted in the Guardian: By a neutral supporter I believe.

    So the VAR was for obstruction and it’s given for offside that neither the Ref or linesman saw. Chris Beath spoke to the TV because he had f’d up. You don’t use the technology to effectly cheat . He is a graduate of the Scott Morrison School of BS. And it had to favor the FFA darlings Sydney who always seem to be protected petals. And as Bozza said if these deliberate mistakes keep being made the people will turn off the game.
    And Brosque is always up their backside to Get prefential treatment. How the heck did Grant stay on the field being on a yellow and sliding in for a late tackle.

    Indeed, and I can't believe what I have read in the SMH (well actually I can) and from that idiot Slater...but then we know he has previous also. I am always reminded at times like this that I support the right club, I could never support a club that are clearly the media and institution darlings. 

    Supporting WSW does feel like supporting the Boro in many ways...and not just that they are both shyte :D Maybe we should adopt the Boro song 'We shall over come some day, there's a dream in my heart, I do believe we shall overcome someday' lol Feels apt somehow...:D.

    I feel for Roly this morning, he looked bad enough after missing that first half chance, he looked devastated at the end. Babbel connected with the fans big time last night, that passion was good to see. Babbel is doing the best he can to get everything out of this squad, he needs backing and to get a few out the door, for all the VAR controversy we just aren't good enough.

    Edited by Smoggy

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    I’m taking positives from it We were all over them in the second half, and at 2-0 we fought back (Var and dodgy ref prevented us) 

    If we play like that we’ll be fine year, especially if we can cut the soft goals out 

     

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    For those who missed it here’s what Beath said post match:

    “Of course, happy to talk you through it,” 

    “So lets make it really clear that the offence that we’ve given for is actually offside. The attacker is clearly in an offside position and his action impacts on the defender - on Zullo’s ability to play the ball.”

    “It was only picked up by the VAR. From a technical point of view the offside is the correct decision.”

    1 - Zullo appealed for a foul and Beath signaled for a foul. Referees always put their arm up to signal offside when overturning a decision so people know what’s going on. Especially for a decision that isn’t obvious and only “technically” correct.

    2 - “his action impacts on the defender” What action? He literally stood still.

    3 - “Zullo’s ability to play the ball” He was never getting anywhere near the ball, Sotirio or otherwise.

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    36 minutes ago, StringerBellend said:

    I’m taking positives from it We were all over them in the second half, and at 2-0 we fought back (Var and dodgy ref prevented us) 

    If we play like that we’ll be fine year, especially if we can cut the soft goals out 

     

    O'Doherty looked good too. Played some nice passes and have we ever had a central midfielder actually weigh a curling shot from well outside the box, rather than just blindly swing at it?

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    Agreed with everything so far in regard to the VAR

    Will say I loved Babbel and his presser last night was great...when he said he came to Australia thinking it was going to be rough/ tough but its like basketball...someone gets touched you only have to scream and its a foul...100%

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    8 hours ago, mack said:

    ^ I doubt it. They will never acknowledge that the FFA is biased in their favour, they will never accept that the referees are biased in their favour and will never accept that the VAR got it wrong. SFC are FFA owned, and their fans are FFA bootlickers.

    I actually went and looked at their forum.  Aside from needing to rinse myself of smurfitis, I came away surprised. Most of them think it wasn't a foul, others think that it was too close to change. There's only one or two (this was last night so may be more now) that thought it was the right call.  They all hate Beath and the VAR. When the rival fans agree with you, that's saying something.

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